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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 10:24 AM
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Focus of inquiry may shift to White House
Source: McClatchy Newspapers

Focus of inquiry may shift to White House
By MARGARET TALEV and RON HUTCHESON
McClatchy Newspapers

~snip~

Some see signs pointing to the White House and the president's political adviser, Karl Rove.

"If I were Congress, I would say, 'If the attorney general doesn't have answers, then who would?' There's enough evidence to indicate that Karl Rove was involved up to his eyeballs," said David Iglesias, the former New Mexico U.S. attorney and one of the eight fired last year.

Democrats say that even if Gonzales steps down -- he says he won't despite widespread Republican disappointment with his performance -- they'll continue their probe into whether politics inappropriately influenced the firings.

"The arrow points more and more to the White House," said Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y. "The one thing I can assure you of: This is not over, far from it."

That's why some Republicans think Gonzales should stay on the job.



Read more: http://www.star-telegram.com/238/story/76256.html
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 10:27 AM
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1. "This is not over, far from it."
Happy happy, joy joy. It'll be really interesting to learn how much KKKarl Rove can't remember....
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 03:45 PM
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31. I imagine his memory is already getting "hazy".... /nt
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 10:28 AM
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2. IOW: "Iglesias Cries 'Rove!' In Movie Theatre."
:freak:
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 10:34 AM
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5. Rove
Rive
Five
Fire

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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 03:24 PM
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38. Fire Rove! (nt)
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 10:29 AM
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3. Recommend with hope in my heart. nt
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 10:30 AM
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4. This is better than Fitzmas!
n/t
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:08 AM
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9. But related as well
Rove is the nexus for everything.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 12:14 PM
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21. And those missing 5 million
emails from 2003 to 2005.....and what's in the middle Election '04!!!

Just imagine what KKKarl wrote about that???! You're right....he's the nexus for all the evil and corruption.
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Roy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 02:46 PM
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36. Ding Ding Ding... step right up and accept your prize.....
What doesn't get mentioned in the wide spread misconception of Karl Rove's 'genius' is that this guy shows sign of a massive ego, sense of entitlement, and feelings that he is above both the law and accountability.

They must at all cost keep these emails and anything else that could be tied personally to Karl Rove from the light of day.

Not only does he want a permanent republican majority, he wants it publicly known he best Newt Gingrich as being the conservative 'architect'.

His only asset is that he has a boss that is so stupid that he will go before millions of people and read anything that he is handed and a political party who has been conditioned under a mix of loyalty, intimidation, and fear of retribution to march lockstep to the party line.

It is a joy to see at least some of this being dismantled as we type.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-22-07 03:12 PM
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37. Did you see how he behaved last night
at the WH Correspondents' Dinner with Sheryl Crow? All he knows is how to attack and bully.

And when she touched his arm, he gets all defensive and says, 'Don't touch me!' WTF? Maybe the guy is beginning to lose it!!! I've always thought that he has a temper and that's why he doesn't speak to the Press.

Roy...good analysis of KKKarl and the congressional repugnants. People like KKKarl bring themselves down...it's a matter of time.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 10:34 AM
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6. ".....'This is not over, far from it. ' "
Wonderful.....K&R PLEASE! Hopefully, this investigation will spur impeachment! I don't care what the reason is for impeachment, I just want * out!
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 10:39 AM
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7. Shift 2.0
Kicked voted and shifted!
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 10:40 AM
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8. Prison will not be a joyful experience
for a flabby, soft looking, chubby cheeked guy like Rove.

:evilgrin:

I know haulin his ass before a congressional committee is a long way from throwing him in jail, but it's fun to think about what might happen.
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:34 AM
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12. He'll be in his natural element
Probably end up running the prison rackets.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:53 AM
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16. He'll NEVER go to jail. Bush will "pardon" him as soon as any investigation
starts.

:kick::kick::kick:
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 02:17 PM
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27. Not if we impeach him first!
Cheney too!
:toast:
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 12:57 PM
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22. But it is the appropriate place for Rove.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 02:58 PM
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28. "Chubby-cheeked indeed. FOUR chubby cheeks.
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durtee librul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 10:19 PM
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35. Kodak moment? NOT!!!
4 chubby cheeks? LOL!!!!! :rofl:
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LuckyLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:26 AM
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10. This is the kind of statement the American sheeple can understand:
'If the attorney general doesn't have answers, then who would?' Guilty, guilty, guilty!
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StarryNite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:30 AM
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11. It should have started in the WH
If you chop off the head, the rest will wither and die on it's own.

But this is good news! Woot! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 12:10 PM
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18. agree, but probably always was the ulitmate goal
:)
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:35 AM
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13. they won't throw gonzo overboard until bush is under threat
then they'll turf him and claim 'all is well, we've cleaned house'
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trudyco Donating Member (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:54 AM
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17. Why are they holding on to Gonzo? Could it be fear?
ARe they afraid that if they cough him up he'll finally sing?
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Lord Balto Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 03:44 PM
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30. Good Question
I really don't have the answer, but I have to wonder if Bush simply has gone so far over the edge that he won't tolerate anyone contradicting him on anything anymore. Remember, this is the self-declared "Decider."
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:43 AM
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14. The question is why wasn't the focus on the White House from the beginning?
Bush is the only person with the power to appoint DAs and he is the only person with the power to remove them (other than Congress of course, but obviously that does not apply in this case). So why is everyone focusing all their attention on Gonzalez when we know it is actually Bush who fired them? Sure Gonzalez was a player, but ultimately Bush is the one who did the dirty deed and if people are calling for Gonzalez's resignation over this then I don't understand how they could not call for Bush's resignation as well.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 12:58 PM
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23. Maybe they will finish the job on Cheney that Fitzgerald left unfinished
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disndat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 11:46 AM
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15. Popcorn Time
for the long-suffering, long-abused American people from 2 stolen presidential elections. Sit back and enjoy!!!
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 12:11 PM
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19. Righto and kicking.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 12:13 PM
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20. as it should be all along!
kkkarl is behind all that occurs.. it's all political 24/7/365 with these bastards. if they could find a way to politicize Jesus' image they would... oh wait, they have..

www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable <<-- check it out, top '08 stuff
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 01:37 PM
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24. "That's why some Republicans think Gonzales should stay on the job." ...
means .... "We need an unquestioning stooge, now more than ever."
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FloridaJudy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 01:47 PM
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25. Focus of inquiry may shift to White House?
Where it should have been all along.
Kickin'
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 01:54 PM
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26. The central questions must be answered:
Who in the Bush administration conceived the plan to fire eight U.S. attorneys and why?

Senator Dianne Feinstein got closest to this key question on Thursday, and she got NO answer.

These questions are exactly what Senator Leahy and Representative Conyers need answers to.

We already know: Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, and George W. Bush conspired to do this for political reasons.

They are screwn.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 03:36 PM
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29. I don't think any of us should say 'fire the attorney's'. We should finish it..
Edited on Sat Apr-21-07 03:38 PM by higher class
We should say 'fire the attorney's to stop investigations and because the attorney's were seen as being not Republican enough'.

If we only say 'fire the attorney's, the comeback will always be 'the president can fire whoever he wants'. WE MUST say he fired the attorney's to stop investigations and for being partisan AND the missing e-mails will most likely prove it. Frame it for incisive and educational prevention.

If someone still says 'fire whomever he wants' - the comeback is Attorney's are there to protect by investigation and trial, not maneuver for a single political party.

In addition, we can then say the missing e-mails may be in one of several places - on the Republican National Committee e-mail system (RNC for elections) - or - on a secondary system used by the DOD - either of which means they are attempting to AVOID documenting and archiving, contrary to law.

Repeat and repeat to counter the talking point that every President fires attorney's.

If we have five corporate tv networks, countless radio stations, magazines, blogs, and newspapers fighting us - we can't miss the opportunity to cut them off. And teach.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 04:37 PM
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32. "Worse than Watergate" is a vast understatement.
It's gonna be a long, hot summer, no matter what the weather.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 09:15 PM
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33. This will take years as they will fight it every step of the way.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-21-07 09:17 PM
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34. Cornyn, R-Texas, told Gonzales in a telephone call Friday that the worst was probably over for him a
That's why some Republicans think Gonzales should stay on the job.

Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, told Gonzales in a telephone call Friday that the worst was probably over for him and that stepping down wouldn't necessarily help the president.

In a statement he released later in the day, Cornyn said, "Democrats see an opportunity to score a lot of political points, so I don't necessarily believe that the attorney general's resignation would quell the Democrats' desire to continue with a partisan fishing expedition."

Some Republicans also want to know more about Rove's role.

"Those questions are going to be outstanding to the White House people," Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., immediate past chairman of the judiciary panel, said after Gonzales' testimony.
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