Al-Qaeda plans 'Hiroshima' attack

[jmc247]

Source: Daily Telegraph

AL-QAEDA leaders in Iraq are planning the first "large-scale" terrorist attacks on Britain and other western targets with the help of supporters in Iran, according to a leaked intelligence report.

Spy chiefs warn that one operative had said he was planning an attack on "a par with Hiroshima and Nagasaki" in an attempt to "shake the Roman throne", a reference to the West, according to The Times newspaper in the UK.

Another plot could be timed to coincide with Tony Blair stepping down as prime minister, an event described by Al-Qaeda planners as a "change in the head of the company". The report, produced earlier this month and seen by The Sunday Times, appears to provide evidence that Al-Qaeda is active in Iran and has ambitions far beyond the improvised attacks it has been waging against British and American soldiers in Iraq.

It follows revelations last year that up to 150 Britons had travelled to Iraq to fight as part of Al-Qaeda’s "foreign legion". A number are thought to have returned to the UK, after receiving terrorist training, to form sleeper cells. The report was compiled by the Joint Terrorism Analysis Centre (JTAC) - based at MI5’s London headquarters - and provides a quarterly review of the international terror threat to Britain.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,21604995-5001021,00.html

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:rofl:

[Newsjock]

1. Booga booga!

Osama under your bed!

[Cobalt-60]

12. and he isn't paying rent, the fiend

[BadGimp]

2. How convenient that IRAN is behind this threat.

[havocmom]

30. No, but Rove has. And, isn't 24 on FOX.

All connected at the roots, indeed.

When things get tough, Rover plays the mushroom cloud card.

Some enterprising graphic artist could come up with a bush/cheney Tarot deck and make a modest fortune.
;)

[file83]

3. Have those terrorists been watching "Jericho" or "24" again?

Please, terrorists, stop watching American Television!! :rofl:

[DRoseDARs]

14. Jericho's nuke attacks were apparently home-grown. I bet that revelation made a few heads explode.

eom

[brooklynite]

33. Well, of course, that's a CBS show...

...you know, the network of Dan Rather!!!

[truthisfreedom]

4. Iraq as a training-ground for modern terrorists planning a massive strike against the West.

Perfect plan, bushco... heckofa job, cheney!

[wtmusic]

5. They are creating a self-fulfilling prophecy

because they need to get their war on. Bastards.

[yurbud]

6. when they say al qaeda, always insert Bush

[mithnanthy]

28. yurbud...

that's funny, I always change the name to Cheney.

[TwilightGardener]

7. But we're safe! Because they are fighting them OVER THERE! Right?

[Jim Sagle]

22. Psstt....they're in the White House. But you knew that.

[sam sarrha]

23. not so much fignting them as training them... in iraq

[MrSlayer]

8. I have recently aquired the scrapping rights for the Eiffel Tower, anyone care to buy in?

Seriously. No, really I have. I swear.

[Cobalt-60]

13. scrap iron is $130 a ton

I'll bet Dubya would buy them from you.

[MrSlayer]

16. Heh, with his business sense, there's no doubt.

Some guy actually did dupe business owners into buying the scrap rights for the Eiffel Tower three times.

[tidy_bowl]

37. I see your Eiffel Tower and...

....raise you one Big Ben.

[progressive_realist]

9. Leaked intelligence report?

Is this one from Ledeen's Italian forgery shop or Feith's Pentagon "Special Projects" propaganda group? The Times should know better than to print this tripe.

[Supersedeas]

58. Yea, one of those.

[Cobalt-60]

10. It's rubbish

[melody]

11. These guys only think this stuff is scary because they've never had a 30 yr mortgage

If the rich boys had ever had to worry about a mortgage payment, they wouldn't think we'd be scared by global spooky-scary stories.

[FogerRox]

15. Nice to have a right wing paper in the UK isnt it......

[magellan]

17. "Al-Qaeda is active in Iran" -- WTH?

This is as startling as a report I heard on CNN Sunday afternoon claiming that Iran are lending support to the TALIBAN. Why would Iran, a Shia state, aid Sunni extremists?? -- people who'd just as soon cut their throats as ours?

Or is the implication rather that al-Qaeda are operating with impunity in Iran? (Also a bit hard to believe.)

[still_one]

21. They wouldn't, and it should be remembered that Iran did not get along with the Taliban or al queada

this is pure nonesense

[Igel]

31. In Russian, Kasparov is a liberal that's organized against Putin.

However, with him are unreconstructed Communists that carry Soviet flags when they marched with him. He's worked at getting the hammer and sickle dropped from his parades, but the people are still there (just with sickle-less placards).

You'd think that those that view Putin as an extreme liberal and those that view Putin as a neo-Stalinist would have nothing in common. But you'd be wrong.

Both seriously want to get rid of Putin.

[magellan]

32. I think you've got a wire crossed, Igil

Unless I'm missing something. What's Putin got to do with Iran supposedly helping al-Qaeda and the Taliban?

[robertpaulsen]

48. Oh yeah, the Shiite branch of al-Qaeda. Yeah, that exists.

Michael Ledeen told me so. :sarcasm:

And what's with this Roman shit? Any other reference to Rome in al-Qaeda transcripts? Or is this just another Operation Gladio fuck-up?

[magellan]

54. lol -- Operation Gladio

Isn't that the one where Chas Heston takes Kate Winslet for a chariot ride before going off to make war against the Babylonians armed with only an AK-47 and the ten commandments tucked in his tunic?

"Come, we go find our oil!"

Seriously, it wouldn't be a stretch for al-Qaeda to make an allusion to the Roman Empire in reference to us. But it isn't definitive. I'm waiting for the Evil Empire jab, then we'll know for sure the GOP's behind it.

[Marie26]

49. The enemy of my enemy is my friend?

IIRC, the 9/11 Commission did find some tangential ties between Iran & Al-Queda. More than Iraq, at least.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,664967,00.html

[magellan]

55. Yes, but "more than Iraq" isn't saying much

...seeing as Iraq had NO ties to al-Qaeda. The only thing Iran seems to be guilty of is letting al-Qaeda operatives pass through their country, but there's no evidence the Iranian government gave them any support or protection...that doesn't originate from the Bush** propaganda mill.

Friend of my friend? Could be. But there's more reason to believe this is just convenient bs.

[Marie26]

63. True that

I'm 99.9999% sure this is just BS proganda & hype. But it does seem like there was an actual British intelligence report about Al-Queda seeking a new attack. (however flawed & hyped that report may be). Bob Baer, the CIA operative who said Cheney was making up flawed Iraqi WMD evidence, has also suggested that Iran might be playing a role in some of the Al-Queda attacks. I've got no idea if this is true, but since he's seemed pretty independent & informed, it made me at least consider the possibility.

[Eugene]

18. Nice try, Rupert.

Here we go again! :eyes:

They threw in everything but the 45 minute notice.

So Ahmadinejad's Iran is supposedly in on an al-Qaeda plot
to attack a Western city on a "Hiroshima" scale, either
through acquiescence or active support. That's a mighty
impressive feat for a country with no working nukes.

If you believe any of this, maybe I can sell you the
Brooklyn Bridge.

[Art_from_Ark]

56. You can toss in the Golden Gate Bridge

and make it a 2-for-1 sale

[soothsayer]

19. Iran? really? How convieeeeeeeennnnenient.

[still_one]

20. B.S., al qaeda and Iran are enemies. Are people that dumb that they do NOT realize the conflict

between the Shia and the Sunni?

That is one reason why al qaeda will NEVER get a foot hold in Iraq as long as the Shia majority is in control

[gorbal]

24. Interesting excuse for a power grab.

Another plot could be timed to coincide with Tony Blair stepping down as prime minister, an event described by Al-Qaeda planners as a "change in the head of the company". The report, produced earlier this month and seen by The Sunday Times, appears to provide evidence that Al-Qaeda is active in Iran and has ambitions far beyond the improvised attacks it has been waging against British and American soldiers in Iraq.

I knew Bush was looking for an excuse to stay in power, but you'd think MR Blair would be sick of it by now.

[and-justice-for-all]

25. BushCo propaganda rubbish i say...

What does Al Quida have to do with anything anyway? Last I checked the 'suspected' (15 of the 19)hijackers were Saudi and I do not believe Al Quida has an arm as long to reach Saudi Arabia.

I do not think Al Quida is as venomous as BushCo would have us believe, this fear mongering bullshit drives me up the wall. I do not buy it, I never have and I never will...

[ozymandius]

26. There is only one thing you and I can do at this point.

We must put blind trust in our leaders. Then we all hide under the bed. That will make it all better.




:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

[Warren Stupidity]

27. Another Joint Chiefs of Terrorism briefing?

Isn't it embarrassing to our little despot that it seems that going on six years after their initial big strike against 'the throne of rome' they can openly discuss their plans for future strikes?

What? They did not make this announcement? Well who did then? We did? Why would we do that?

[Javaman]

29. wow, they haven't waltzed out a terror warning like this

since the exploding cow stories.

they really must have their panties in a bunch over how moron* is fucking up.

[Forkboy]

34. Fear is big business.

[brooklynite]

35. I thought that if we "fought them over there"...

...we wouldn't have to "fight them over here"

[truthisfreedom]

44. No, as it turns out, we fought them over there and thereby taught them how to fight us over here.

As Oh-Kayda has said, Iraq is a University of Terror.

[BrokenBeyondRepair]

36. hmmmmm....

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=ABR20070420&articleId=5444

[OKIsItJustMe]

38. Read the Orignial Article

This story reports on a story run in The Sunday Times so it makes sense to find that story.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1687360.ece

...

The report says there is “no indication” this attack would specifically target Britain, “although we are aware that AQI . . . networks are active in the UK”.

...

“It could be just a reference to a huge explosion,” said a counter-terrorist source. “They have got to do something soon that is radical otherwise they start losing credibility.”

Despite aspiring to a nuclear capability, Al-Qaeda is not thought to have acquired weapons grade material. However, several plots involving “dirty bombs” - conventional explosive devices surrounded by radioactive material - have been foiled.

Last year Al-Qaeda’s leader in Iraq called on nuclear scientists to apply their knowledge of biological and radiological weapons to “the field of jihad”.

...

(emphasis added)

[Marie26]

50. So it''s an actual intelligence report

Not Murdoch making up scary stories. I wonder who leaked this & why? It must be someone from within the British government. Was MI5 corrupted & pressured the same way the CIA was prior to the Iraq War?

[stormymonday]

52. If it was genuine 'leaked' intelligence

one would expect a huge investigation into the apparent breach in security procedures and prosecutions such as those instigated recently against Keogh and O'Connor over the contents of Blair's Iraq memo.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article1674437.ece

Instead, the official position is no comment. This means that the story has almost certainly been placed into the media with government connivance.

[Marie26]

53. No doubt

Kind of like how Bush "leaked" the National Intelligence Estimate when it served his purposes. Why would Blair's government have done this? He's stepping down in a month; what does he care about the polls anymore?

[CBHagman]

62. The serious story is the general nuclear risk.

From what I've heard, the Bush administration really has fallen down on the job concerning securing nuclear weapons, notably with Russia. This is no joke. It's not something you want to play with.

And our "ally" Pakistan had a virtual nuclear supermarket going in the form of A.Q. Khan. Guess one place where al Qaeda has been hanging out? Yes, in Pakistan...

And don't think that various groups and nations don't want to get nuclear weapons and other WMDs. The Bush administration has lost ground in this regard, and the next administration had damn well better have a different attitude in that regard.

Some more here:

http://www.countercurrents.org/us-cirincione171006.htm

[KansDem]

39. Guess we'd better hope al-Qaeda doesn't get any B-29s (eom)

[HuffleClaw]

40. blatant propaganda to prepare for WAR

and a piss poor attempt at that

[hedgehog]

41. If the people running the government really took these threats seriously,

why aren't they working overtime to locate and guard all the loose nuclear weapons floating around the old Soviet bloc? I'm a lot more worried about those than about a weapon that might be made if someone e er accumulates enough weapons grade plutonium. The worst part? There probably are terrorists planning a nuclear attack, but Cheney wiped out one of our best means of keeping them away from nuclear munitions when he outed Valerie Plame!

[nealmhughes]

42. Yes, Rupert, and there is a cache of gunpowder in the cellars of Westminster Palace.

Guy named Fawkes is in charge, working with the Jesuits.

[Kool Kitty]

43. OMG!!! A nuclear attack????

I have to go now-it's time for me to get under my desk. :scared:

[MisterP]

45. "massive weapons of destruction are above our heads"

(pfrrrt)

[chknltl]

46. Guard the President's desk!

Well that's where Saddams WMD's are aren't they? Under the desk...Osama is there too, which of course explains why bush looks under his desk for inspiration. Sounds like a Code Red Bull Shit Storm is about to hit America... Man the popcorn popper gang, poopy pants is ploppin propaganda on the public again.

[StarryNite]

47. Duct tape and plastic sheeting time

[jamesinca]

51. Bush in trouble, Blair out

Sinking poll numbers, indictments, impeachment to be announced about Cheney,subpoenas, congress very slowly moving to end the war etc... and we come up with a terror threat. Are we at a mauve or crimson or some other terror threat level yet. Do we need to plastic wrap and duct tape our houses? Same shit different day.

[allalone]

57. hey wait

I thought 'the Company' was the CIA. Blair is the head of CIA??

[ramapo]

59. Nonsense

Such an attack would no nothing more than ensure the obliteration of Iran and maybe a few other countries just for good measure. We'll worry about the fallout later.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

60. Eau de Bullshit

Smells nasty.

[Star80]

61. Easily Defused - Coordinated Group Effort

Just mention "Noble Resolve" in every email or IM you send, and in every phone conversation you have...

"...if ya fool me can't git fooled agin!..."

[Marrah_G]

64. I do worry about this

Because frankly, this administration has created SO much anger, destruction and chaos in the world. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if some of these groups could get their hands on some old russion nukes. It's not like our government is actually paying any fucking attention to anything but completely screwing up the middle east.

I hope nothing happens, but honestly, I have zero confidence in their ability to keep us safe and if some groups wants payback then it will be american citizens that will pay the price.

Let me also say I don't live in fear, I just acknowledge that destruction in the middle east is making us far less safe.