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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 05:55 AM
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US Democrats endangering Iraqis: Maliki aide
Source: afp




US Democrats endangering Iraqis: Maliki aide

14 minutes ago

BAGHDAD (AFP) - An aide to Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki on Friday accused the Democratic US lawmakers who voted for a timed withdrawal of US troops of playing politics with the future of
Iraq.


"I wish they would stand side by side with the Iraqi people rather than taking positions that could be catastrophic for the Iraqis, because of their differences with the Republicans," said Hassan al-Sinaid..
......

Sinaid, a Shiite lawmaker from Maliki's Dawa party and close counsellor to the prime minister, said the Democrats were being misled by media reports as to the true situation in Iraq.

He told AFP that he thought the vote was "a political one, and reflects the political differences inside the United States... They (the Democrats) listen to the media which is almost in opposition to the will of the Iraqis...........

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070427/ts_afp/iraqunrestuscongress_070427101036;_ylt=Ak102sZmbptKvJRGk3rGl9rMWM0F





I tire of the Iraqi leaders whinning!
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 05:57 AM
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1. 10 dollars says a Bush Administration member told him to say that
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 05:59 AM
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3. yep, note the presence of the current talking points in his statement
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yava Donating Member (384 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 04:40 PM
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26. horrible diagnosis
I am edging towards the conviction that unfortunately for the victimized Iraqis, it may be that this war will not end until some other/bigger issues are settled:
- Iran has every interest in the US being bogged down in Iraq until its row with the US is settled because the US is perceived as unable to take on Iran militarily while its resources are engaged in Iraq.
- Israel doesn't want a Palestinian state if Iran comes out winner in Iraq and connects to the borders (land or water) of a Palestinan entity via Iraq, Syria and Lebanon.
- Saudi doesn't want a strong Iraq if it is controlled by Shia.
- Iraq+Iran+Venezuela oil sale coordination will weaken Saudi and US control on Opec
- Iraq+Iran+Russia gas resource coordination idem.
- An Iraqi settlement will allow focus on Afghanistan and its lucrative opium and heroin trade and dollars which is said to exceed 10 billion $/year.

Poor, poor Iraqi chindren...
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 05:59 AM
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2. These people are shameless. They know what the biggest problems
are, they know the Iraqis don't want us there, they do nothing to stop the sectarian violence (in fact, they owe their existence to the Shi'ites), and they have put their country's only asset up for grabs.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 06:08 AM
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4. "here is no civil war in Iraq, nor is there a sectarian one." (bush whipering in his ear?)


....."I think they should get realistic studies of whether Iraqi forces are ready to replace American troops," said Sinaid, adding that joint committees should be formed to assess the efficiency of Iraqi forces.

"Any Iraqi would be happy to see them (US troops) leaving, but it should be done in a way that ensures good security," he stressed.

Sinaid blasted the Democrats for calling the violence in Iraq a civil war, saying they were "captives of the media and opinion polls."

"They talk about a civil war. I think this is unrealistic. There is no civil war in Iraq, nor is there a sectarian one. What we have is a war of terror unleashed by Al-Qaeda and the loyalists of the former regime," he insisted.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 10:03 AM
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15. If there's no war in Iraq, why do our troops need to be there?
Republicans have squared the circle, and their talking points have actually come around to contradicting themselves. If there's no civil war and no sectarian war going on in Iraq, then why are the U.S. troops needed there at all, Mr. Sinaid?
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 10:03 AM
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16. If there's no war in Iraq, why do our troops need to be there?
Republicans have squared the circle, and their talking points have actually come around to contradicting themselves. If there's no civil war and no sectarian war going on in Iraq, then why are the U.S. troops needed there at all, Mr. Sinaid?
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 06:30 AM
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5. He's got some nerve...
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youngdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 06:46 AM
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6. Fuck this puppet prick. Anyone can read a White House talking points memo
What a tool. Fuck him.

Keep talking asshole. It will just make it easier for us to turn our backs on you faster.


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dazzlerazzle Donating Member (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 07:01 AM
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7. shite aide
Being an important fellow, he likely resides in the green zone where he enjoys the protection most people in Iraq will never have.
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chiffon Donating Member (527 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 09:00 AM
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8. phffff
yeah, i said it.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 09:39 AM
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9. The VAST MAJORITY of Iraqis -Sunni AND Shia, want US troops OUT
of Iraq IMMEDIATELY.

So who's standing side by side with the people of Iraq?

That would be us DEMS.

PS Sinaid; don't go outside amongst the people of Iraq. You wouldn't live long. The people of Iraq KNOW for a FACT that you are a lying MFer.
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Maeve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 10:20 AM
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17. Try this headline--Iraqis welcome U.S. Congress vote but fear vacuum
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraqis are glad U.S. soldiers could soon depart but fearful of what they might leave behind, after the U.S. Congress approved a bill linking troop withdrawals to war funding.

"U.S. forces have to leave Iraq but not now," said Abu Ali, a 47-year-old trader from the southern city of Basra, on Friday.

"The Iraqi government and its security forces are unable to control security, especially in Baghdad and its neighborhoods."

Like many, he said tying funding to a timetable to withdraw U.S. troops over the next 11 months would force Iraq's police and army units to shape up quicker.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070427/ts_nm/iraq_usa_reaction_dc_1
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 09:45 AM
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10. Well, he is right, however,
the Iraqis we would endanger are the members of the fake government <cough> elected, because American bayonets keep them in power.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 09:50 AM
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11. Too funny! Oh yeah, and the Democrats also block the flight of The Tooth Fairy! ! !
Talk about desperate. :eyes:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 09:57 AM
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12.  Maliki likes being Prime Minister
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 09:59 AM
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13. It's time for the Iraqi government to stand on it's own
They need to get their house in order quickly so we can get our men and women out of there. If a timeline is what it takes, then so be it.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 10:03 AM
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14. I'd like to know how much money he's deposited in his Swiss ...
bank account over the last 4 years.
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ckramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 10:44 AM
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18. Maliki dead man walking
after US' departure.

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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 01:38 PM
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21. And THAT knowledge brings a smile to my face
screw that corrupt bastard
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 12:40 PM
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19. No, it is Dubya who has endangered Iraqis, and caused hundreds of thousands to die.
And Maliki is doing his own good job at endangering Iraqis.
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Liberalynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 01:32 PM
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20. Look I am truly sorry that Dumbya and Uncle Dick
Edited on Fri Apr-27-07 01:59 PM by Liberalynn
screwed things up in Iraq but they should really take it up with the two of them, and Condasleeza. Maybe they could offer to pay reparations out of their personal accounts. Condi would have to forgo a few pairs of new Ferragamos, for awhile but somehow I think she'd survive.

As far as U.S. decisions on policy, the political will of the American people should be paramount period. We want our government and our democracy back. The majority of the American public want out, not just the media, not just certain politicians, and since our government is supposed to be by the people, for the people, we should be able to have our say. Democracy what a quaint old notiton.;)
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 01:48 PM
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22. Whenever news clips are shown of Iraq, there are always lots of young men
hanging around. In some clips they can't find a job. In the "positive" clips they're sipping coffee and playing board games on the sidewalk. So here's my suggestion: sign them up for military service. Institute a draft as long as the country needs it. I realize we've got the Pottery Barn rule to contend with, but we can't stay there forever and according to the logic (or delusion) of the Bush administration, that's exactly where we headed.
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 02:30 PM
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23. wow - LOOK AT THE PUPPET TALK!
who cares what these nothing nobody people who will be dead the moment we leave have to say. they are collaborators with a foreign occupier, they are enemies of the Iraqi people and they can go to hell.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 03:59 PM
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24. pretty fast and ever so canned response
i wonder who sent 'em that text?
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 04:17 PM
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25. So, according to this new Baghdad Bob...
...
    "I think they should get realistic studies of whether Iraqi forces are ready to replace American troops," said Sinaid, adding that joint committees should be formed to assess the efficiency of Iraqi forces.
... Iraqi forces are NOT ready to replace American forces, AFTER FOUR YEARS!!! ... and we're no longer training Iraqi forces.

This is progress?
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 04:46 PM
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27. What Iraqis think ...
Edited on Fri Apr-27-07 04:47 PM by krkaufman
    Oct.2005 -- The poll, undertaken for the Ministry of Defence and seen by The Sunday Telegraph, shows that up to 65 per cent of Iraqi citizens support attacks and fewer than one per cent think Allied military involvement is helping to improve security in their country. (link)

    Sep.2006 -- seven in ten Iraqis want U.S.-led forces to commit to withdraw within a year. An overwhelming majority believes that the U.S. military presence in Iraq is provoking more conflict than it is preventing and there is growing confidence in the Iraqi army. If the United States made a commitment to withdraw, a majority believes that this would strengthen the Iraqi government. Support for attacks on U.S.-led forces has grown to a majority position—now six in ten. Support appears to be related to a widespread perception, held by all ethnic groups, that the U.S. government plans to have permanent military bases in Iraq. (link)

    Apr.2007 -- 78% of Iraqis oppose the presence of "Coaltion" forces in Iraq, 69% believe that the presence of US troops is making security conditions worse, and 51% find attacks on US forces "acceptable" (while only 35% want troops to leave immediately) Of note is that only 12% find attacks on Iraqi government troops acceptable, a number that would likely drop further if the Iraqi government were to be less linked to American control.(link)
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