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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 08:41 AM
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Steve Jobs proposes Al Gore for president
Source: PC Advisor

Apple CEO Steve Jobs has stated that Al Gore, an Apple board member and former US vice-president, would win the presidency if he ran for election.

"If he ran, there's no question in my mind that he would be elected," Jobs told Time magazine. "But I think there's a question in his mind, perhaps because the pain of the last election runs a lot deeper than he lets most of us see."

Gore has campaigned to persuade people to address the growing threat of climate change, which could cause environmental collapse.

"We have dug ourselves into a 20-foot hole, and we need somebody who knows how to build a ladder. Al's the guy," Jobs also told Newsweek. "Like many others, I have tried my best to convince him. So far, no luck."



Read more: http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=9447
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 08:45 AM
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1. Well, time for me to buy another iPod.
Couldn't agree with him more. :-)
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 08:47 AM
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2. Do we get an iPhone?
Okay...just this once, I'm in favor of a little payola! LOL!

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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 08:48 AM
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3. Man with Vision Endorses Man with Vision!
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 08:51 AM
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4. Please Al, PLEASE!
We need a LEADER, not a tool of the Republicans.

I know we are asking a HELL of a lot, but I also know that I speak for many here when I say, "WE'VE GOT YOUR BACK!"

We will metaphorically kick the shit out of any reporters who pull the same lame-ass shit they did in 2000.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 08:53 AM
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5. Will he debut the 'iPresident 2008' at WWDC this year?
:D



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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 08:54 AM
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6. One thing is for sure.
If Gore runs, the primary will just be a formality.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 06:37 PM
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26. Yes, I think if AL runs he wins the White House
I have made no Shermanesque statement


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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 08:37 PM
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32. If Gore wins the White House
Welfare will be even more screwed than it was when Bill Clinton was president. Don't forget, Mr. Gore (even in the primary) ran heavily on the "welfare reform" bullshit that translated into "Fuck the poor."

At least Edwards gives a damn about poverty.

Kinda hard to save the earth, Al, if you have millions of people who can't afford to buy fluorescent light bulbs and the other earth-friendly goodies you're talking about....
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SnowGoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 11:12 PM
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35. Don't hold back ~ tell us what you really think!
Although I'm sure we don't have the same opinion on Mr. Gore, I've gotta tip my hat to you for saying your piece plainly, even though you know you'll be in the minority on this thread.

Cheers.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 08:03 AM
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40. Kind of hard to support the poor when all the money's going...
to fund the NEVER ENDING WAR that Mr. Edwards LOBBIED and voted for.

(I know, I know.....he made a MISTAKE :eyes:)

LOVE his saber rattling against Iran, too!
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 08:56 AM
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7. But what's he gonna do about the iRack?
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Hard_Work Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 12:25 PM
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18. Oh, dog
you should suffer horribly for that one!
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Beausoleil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 09:26 AM
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43. Let's hope the iRan
is a big flop.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 09:10 AM
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8. What better justice & satisfaction could the people get if the man
they voted into office in 2000 would win in 2008 in an historical landslide, beyond Karl Rove's or the Supreme Court's reach. Al Gore's pain from the 2000 election theft makes him ideal for the presidency following the boy king. Everything the boy king has done needs to be undone. Lots of repairing to do; we need someone with heart, vision, & intelligence.
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lutefisk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 09:38 AM
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10. "heart, vision, & intelligence" - we need that about now
I don't believe any of the other electable candidates will do much of anything to undo what the Bush Regime has done to this country. It will just be a kinder, gentler version of the past 6+ years. And perhaps most importantly, I see no evidence that any of the other electable candidates will do anything meaningful to save the damn planet Earth. I think Al Gore is the leader we all need.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 09:11 AM
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9. I want one of those stamp Ipods! My kid took mine! And I won it!
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arsenic Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 10:08 AM
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11. He had his chance
Am I the only liberal who thinks that Al Gore let down the American people when he conceded the election?

Even I knew without a shadow of a doubt--and pre-9/11 I wasn't very politically informed--that if Bush was elected we had a 100% chance of going to war. I believe that Gore had a responsibility to hold on as hard as he could and denounce the extremely shady conditions under which Bush was "elected." He didn't have to concede when he did, and for that, I can never trust him in a political office ever again. Sure, not only Gore was responsible, you can blame almost half the country for that. If there had been more of an investigation into the voting process, who knows what may have been uncovered. I know it was most likely a rigged election, but Bush got away with it far too easily.

I think that since his defeat Al Gore has done a number of good things, mostly in informing people on global issues. However, in my mind, Gore was one of the few people who at that time had a chance to prevent Bush from becoming president, and he stepped aside. Maybe Gore thought being a good loser would help his political career down the line, but in my opinion, it killed it.
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michaelwb Donating Member (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 11:44 AM
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13. Hardly
Fighting it all the way to the Supreme Court is not my definition of being let down.

The fact that there were such small groups of people protesting that election (I was one of them) is where I think liberals and others let the country down.

The fact that the press tried to dismiss the claims of fraud, ignored the SC connections to the Bush campaign and the irregularities in the Florida election is where I think the media let the country down.

The fact that the Senate wouldn't support the Congressional Black Caucus in its protest over the disenfranchisement of black voters in that election is where the Senate and Senate Democrats let the country down.

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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 11:48 AM
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14. Not Last Chance - Let Down ???
Edited on Wed May-23-07 11:53 AM by otohara
back 2000 when the stolen election was happening before our eyes - you have to remember the how the GOP, media, and the slanted Supreme Court used everything they could to block the recount. Especially the media, who was oh so tired of Clinton/Gore and they were spent butt-loads of money and lobbied for more deregulation of the media and let's face it, they too helped steal the election, just as they helped usher in a war based on lies.

Al Gore is a different man now and would win in a heartbeat.

Welcome to DU, and you're not the "only liberal" who thinks Gore had his chance and shouldn't run again, but if he did, I think those like you would change their minds once Al Gore emerges as a force to be reckoned with in 2007/2008
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arsenic Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 05:29 PM
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20. thanks
thanks for the welcome. I read DU daily and the forums regularly but have never created an account till now.

If Gore were the chosen candidate for the Dems, I would vote for him, unless there was an independent I liked (I'm registered independent and very offended by Lieberman's supposed independent status).

Gore didn't give up as quickly as Kerry, and obviously, a lot of people had no idea what they were saddled with when Bush became president. Gore is not the only one responsible for letting down the American people.

However, I really hope that the uprising of popularity for Gore has more to do with his political beliefs and less to do with the fact that he made a movie that a lot of people saw which won an Oscar. A few pounds, an Oscar and a more easy-going nature do not constitute a "re-invention" of a person. I've seen the before and after Gores, and I'm not sure what it is now that makes him more "electable" than he was in the first place.

I think of Keith Olbermann who had continuing stories about the shady elections in Ohio long after the '04 race was over, hanging on even though all other newscasters and news channels had dropped the stories weeks before. That's what I want in a presidential candidate, someone who doesn't care about the popular opinion, the media, but someone who will stand for what they believe is true as long as they possibly can.

This time around I am hoping for Obama or Kucinich. Poor Kucinich. If only he were a foot taller and his voice an octave deeper.... When the mediator at the first democratic debate asked if anyone agreed with Kucinich and not one other candidate stood up for him! What a sad day...
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 06:48 PM
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29. It's not just the movie and the oscar
Well, I can't speak for anybody else, but for me it's not that at all. I wasn't even on the Gore bandwagon until the past couple days. Until his new book came out. Now I want him in the race yesterday. The reason? Because he's fighting back. He's speaking the truth about the opposition in stronger terms than any other candidate. And for that alone, I would be proud to give him my vote.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 07:50 AM
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39. I'm not an Independent. I'm a Democrat.
I voted for Gore in 2000, Kerry in 2004.

Not for Nader.
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arsenic Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 09:58 AM
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44. oh god
Oh god, I never voted for Nader! I can't stand his rhetoric, and someone who claims to be so "independent" and "anti-corporate" should not have so many ties in with insurance companies! I'm an independent in the same way I'm agnostic. I voted Gore '00 and Kerry '04 as well.
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 12:05 PM
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16. Arsenic kills. Nice try.

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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 05:54 PM
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22. What should he have done? Is there a higher court than the SCOTUS?
Very bogus criticism.

Gore fought all the way to the Supreme Court. Not only that, but the Constitution says the Electoral College must meet by a certain date and that date had arrived.

The SCOTUS' decision is final in this land of laws. Gore's ONLY option was to concede .... unless you're saying he should have called for a mass citizen revolt? Not a very responsible suggestion, wouldn't you agree?

Let's just dispell the "Gore should have fought on" myth once and for all. It's getting very tiresome.


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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 06:07 PM
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23. Deleted message
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arsenic Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 06:30 PM
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25. buggering off
I was going to try posting here, but maybe it was a mistake, considering none of us really knows the other but feels free to make snap-judgements based on my opinion of one past presidential candidate. I don't feel the need to defend my "liberal"-ness, and although I have contributed to DU and enjoy reading the site, I guess I'll "bugger off" back to my UU church. Oh wait, I'm not a liberal, I forgot. Thanks anyways for reading.
Unless I change my mind...
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 07:48 AM
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38. There's no legal recourse beyond the Supreme Court.
Gore wasn't ready to start a bloody revolution. The media & most of his party gave up long before he did. And people were hardly in the streets--as they were after the last "questionable" Mexican election.

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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 11:35 AM
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12. Steve knows. nt
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Acadia Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 12:04 PM
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15. How I wish Al Gore would run.
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 07:16 PM
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31. A lot can change. He can still run.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 12:14 PM
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17. If that's true, here's what Al needs to consider
1) he *was* elected
2) the best payback would be to alter the composition of the SCOTUS since that was who snatched his Presidency away from him

Geez Al, do we have to draw you a picture?
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benny05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 05:10 PM
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19. His wife supported Edwards and Obama
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 05:44 PM
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21. Keep up the pressure, Steve.
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BadGimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 06:18 PM
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24. great line:
"We have dug ourselves into a 20-foot hole, and we need somebody who knows how to build a ladder..."

The # 1 rule when you relaize you dug yourself a a 20 foot whole is to STOP DIGGING!!!

I agree with Steve of course. All IS the guy.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 06:42 PM
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27. "AL IS the guy." I seccond the motion.. AL IS the guy.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 06:47 PM
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28. Al is the guy- I'm writing him in on my ballot n/t
Edited on Wed May-23-07 06:48 PM by deacon
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LBJDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 07:01 PM
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30. I don't give a s*** what Steve Jobs says
I'd prefer Al to two of the three current frontrunners, but what the CEO of Apple thinks about politics is irrelevant to me. Just another big business POS.
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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 09:11 PM
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33. Jobs may have some influence on Gore
Gore is on Apple's board, of course, but I think there's a friendly relationship between the two.

Talk him into it, Steve!

(And before anyone says so, yes, I know that Jobs talking to him alone won't be the factor in Gore's decision. But it might help.)
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 10:27 PM
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34. i'm getting closer to buying a mac and getting rid of the
microsoft VIsta shit.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 06:54 AM
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37. My next computer will be a mac, no doubt.
Probably a G-5 iMac upgraded to 2 gig ram, 500 gig external hard drive. I'll start with "Final cut Pro" for video editing.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 11:20 AM
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45. that sounds cool!
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farmboxer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 03:51 AM
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36. President Gore Has Already Been Elected And
should be allowed to take office ASAP!!! Call it what is was, a coup!!!
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 09:18 AM
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41. Only a 20 foot hole? damn gates is optimistic. nt
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deminwi Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-24-07 09:20 AM
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42. Works for me
Al Gore or any Democratic candidate would make me happy as the next President!
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