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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 03:57 PM
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Hillary speaks up on outsourcing
Source: chennaionline

Seattle, July 7: Trying to blunt criticism over her links with Indian Americans, Democratic presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton has said her countrymen's fears on outsourcing must be allayed to avert possible political and economic fall-out.

"If the standard of living and the quality of life falls in reality and in perception and in any way decreases in the US, our bilateral cooperation and partnerships could very well suffer in the long run," Hillary said.

"Workers in the US are concerned about outsourcing, as I'm sure you know. And I think they have a right to be," she told a conference sponsored by the alumni of the Indian Institutes of Technology at Santa Clara in California.

Hillary, who was due to appear in person but could not make it to the event, spoke via satellite from New Orleans and warned that global business and government leaders should help keep Americans in jobs or suffer the consequences.


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Cookie wookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 04:10 PM
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1. Pardon me while I vomit.
What ever happened to leaders in the USA being responsible for seeing that Americans are employed AND EMPLOYED WELL? Did she really say that about "Global business and government leaders should help keep Americans in jobs....."??? Excuse me? Our "fears" about outsourcing need to be "allayed"? What the hell does that mean? This kind of thinking is scary as hell. Since when do global business and government leaders have any f---ing responsibility for Americans having jobs?

Maybe it's just the way this was reported, but it makes her sound like she wants to be president of the globalization world so that everyone can be "lifted up" (right). We need a president who understands what the f has happened to workers in this country and who puts our interests before those of global business and govt leaders and the global population -- and not just as "consumers" (barf) but as citizens of the country she is supposed to represent.

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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 04:14 PM
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3. this is a perfect example of neo liberal bullshit
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 02:43 PM
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31. Okay, normally I laugh at RW UN-bashing,
but for Hillary to put "global government" in charge of OUR economic welfare?????

:wtf:

:crazy:

:mad:

:grr:

:nuke:

:argh:
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 04:11 PM
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2. same old crap now
same old crap for the future..good luck future generations.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 04:18 PM
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4. Well as long as Hil thinks that we "have a right to be" concerned about outsourcing
If Hil wants to convince anybody that she is sincere in her concern, then she should denounce NAFTA and develop a new trade policy.

I'm so sick of lip service.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 04:37 PM
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5. Vote for Kucinich!
He will revoke NAFTA and the WTO!!!

I will vote again for Kucinich! YES I will!!!

:kick:
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 07:47 AM
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18. Uh, only Congress can revoke NAFTA and the WTO, right?
The president only has the right to veto bills coming out of congress, not push them through.
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 11:12 AM
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23. Good luck with that!
Has he moved to 1% yet or still at *?
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dbackjon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 02:31 PM
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29. What does NAFTA have to do with outsourcing to India?
Absolutely NOTHING.

Same with WTO. Does nothing to prevent IBM from sending tech support to India.
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 04:49 PM
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6. same clinton bs. Does she ever get tired of lying or playing around the truth
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 04:51 PM
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7. It's obvious where Hillary stands, from this non-stance, and it's not with the American people. (nt)
Edited on Sat Jul-07-07 04:52 PM by w4rma
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 04:56 PM
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8. Help me out here. Are off-shoring and outsourcing now the same thing?
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DotGone Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 12:13 PM
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25. Technically outsourcing != offshoring
since you can outsource to other Americans but outsourcing is a term whose definition that the media and general population gets wrong. For all intents and purposes, when "outsourcing" is mentioned, it's "offshoring" that's meant unless prefaced otherwise. So to answer your question, yes, generally speaking. :)
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 02:26 PM
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26. I differentiate between the two.
You can outsource ONshore as well as offshore. Offshoring is just that: sending jobs to cheaper shores so the CEO can raise prices while buying more stuff while the American workers get impaled.
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 05:19 PM
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9. This is why I can never support her
What kind of a country will we have if this continues?
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 02:35 PM
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30. One of 130 million uninsured small business owners and mediocre-paid service workers.
A scenario that this country does NOT need.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 05:25 PM
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10. you DU swift boaters are in great form today arent you? nt
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 05:49 PM
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12. Swift boaters = liars
People (some) on this thread are speaking the truth.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 09:57 AM
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21. what's wrong with you?
you were expecting an actual discussion?

:sarcasm:
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 05:43 PM
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11. Hillary SSSSUXXXX!!!!!!! Edwards RRRRRAWWWXXXXX!!!!!
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fedsron2us Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 06:34 PM
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13. The globalist utopia is already coming apart
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2007/07/07/cninfla107.xml&page=1

You know things are not going well when the UK's leading right wing newspaper start complaining about the rising costs of doing business in China and India.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 10:15 PM
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14. If the quality of living falls in reality and PERCEPTION?!!
Hey, Hillary....not all of us are millionaires, OK. MOST of us actually WORK for a living and depend upon the PAYCHECK to feed ourselves.

Outsourcing is done just so CEOs can become even wealthier.

So, the fact that I have like $10 until payday is merely a PERCEPTION to the woman who may be the nominee for the political party that claims to speak for the everyday worker?
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lakeguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 10:51 PM
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15. she didnt say a damn thing about what her plan/plans
are on the subject. just the same old political word crap she (and many others) like to play. she doesnt care about the average working and its clear by the way she speaks about important issues that involve us.
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hollowdweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-07-07 11:08 PM
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16. Exactly. How about she introduces a bill banning permanent replacement workers in labor disputes.
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Faux pas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 04:35 AM
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17. A vote for hillary is a vote for business as usual. n/t
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 09:17 AM
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19. Hillary Clinton Pushes For More H1B Visas and Outsourcing:
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NotGivingUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 09:45 AM
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20. How about "I'm sorry my husband passed NAFTA and GATT. I will correct this." nt
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 07:58 PM
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33. She won't apologize for her own mistakes,
I doubt she'd apologize for Bill's (though maybe we could hope she'd announce he was wrong).
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 10:57 AM
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22. Can she ever say anything in a straightforward manner?
Please don't tell me she's going to be the next President...

/notamused
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-08-07 10:29 PM
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24. You just can't listen to Hillary on outsourcing and free trade, you also have to hear what Bill says
on those subjects, especially when Hillary pretends to be a progressive and appears to oppose outsourcing and free trade. If Bill is urging Dems in Congress to pass Fast Track and the new free trade deals, then Hillary usually appeals to the Dem base and makes noise sounding like she will oppose outsourcing and free trade.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 02:30 PM
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27. Hmmmmmmm . . .
Here's a few links on her position. I'll give ye a hint . . . it ain't a good one.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2960236#2960497
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 07:38 PM
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32. Hugh
Your post at the above link is worthy of it's own thread.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 02:30 PM
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28. so will she renounce her Free Trade positions and her ties with corporatism?
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-09-07 08:05 PM
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34. Why is it that she's lost so much credibility I just see her name and
feel what she's doing must be wrong...

Couldn't be all that lip service shes already given and then her lack of follow through...
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 07:55 PM
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35. What about the human beings who will suffer in the long run?
I will never cast a vote for this woman. And, thanks very much, Hil, for **acknowledging** that we have a right to be concerned about outsourcing. And, yes, many of us *know* about this issue and have been dealing with it for years.

Save your condescending crap.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-10-07 08:07 PM
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36. Yes or no, Hillary: Would you push to revoke China's Most Favored Nation status?
And would you push to stop the outsourcing of American jobs to India and elsewhere?

Don't give us the freight-train sentences packed with fancy words.
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