Republican Senators Seek New War Authorization

[MannyGoldstein]

Source: The New York Times

WASHINGTON, July 13 — Two leading Republican senators said today that President Bush should seek a new war authorization and present a plan to Congress by Oct. 16 outlining contingency plans in Iraq. Those plans, which would include reducing American forces, should begin by the end of the year.

Senators John W. Warner of Virginia and Richard G. Lugar of Indiana, both of whom have criticized the administration’s troop buildup plan, introduced a measure expected to be considered next week when the Iraq war debate resumes. The senators said it was critical to move beyond the current clash between Congress and the White House and begin making plans to be implemented after the military releases its progress report in September.

“I continue to counsel the president and his administration to move now to construct a more sustainable policy in Iraq that reduces our troop commitments and transitions away from the missions of interposing ourselves between sectarian factions,” Mr. Lugar said in a statement.

One of the main elements of their amendment, which was filed shortly after noon today, would require the president to seek a new rationale for the war authorization by the time Gen. David H. Petraeus, the top military commander in Iraq, delivers a report in September on the progress of the troop buildup. The measure also would require the president to review and update the National Intelligence Estimate for Iraq no later than Sept. 4.



Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/13/washington/13cnd-cong.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

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The Republicans are cracking; I believe that our beloved Chimperor's end is drawing near.

[Vincardog]

1. all hail our beloved Chimperor's end

[no_hypocrisy]

2. Would the new Authorization negate the prior blank check or would

it be an extension of it?

[papau]

17. It appears to be the same as Hillary's termination of 2002 IWR and new "re-purposing" of troops law

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=3375223

New GOP Bill Challenges Bush Iraq Policy
GOP Senators Draft Bill Requiring Bush to Narrow Mission of U.S. Troops
By ANNE FLAHERTY
The Associated Press

WASHINGTON

<snip>The legislation, which represents a sharp challenge to Bush, was put forward Friday by Sens. John Warner and Richard Lugar, and it came as the Pentagon acknowledged that a decreasing number of Iraqi army battalions are able to operate independently of U.S. troops.<snip>

The Warner-Lugar proposal states that "American military and diplomatic strategy in Iraq must adjust to the reality that sectarian factionalism is not likely to abate anytime soon and probably cannot be controlled from the top."

Accordingly, Warner and Lugar say Bush must draft a plan for U.S. troops that would keep them from "policing the civil strife or sectarian violence in Iraq" and focus them instead on protecting Iraq's borders, targeting terrorists and defending U.S. assets.

At the Pentagon, meanwhile, Marine Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told reporters that the number of battle-ready Iraqi battalions able to fight on their own has dropped to a half-dozen from 10 in recent months despite heightened American training efforts.<snip>

[EVDebs]

3. Er, the existing AUMF for Iraq required 'clear' (read truthful) 'situations' and 'circumstances'

What new lies and deceptions do the GOP plan on justifying our prescence in Iraq with ?

The War Powers Resolution of 1973 (embedded within the AUMF of Oct. 2002)

War Powers Resolution of 1973
http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/warpower.htm

and

AUMF Oct 2002
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/10/20021002-2.html

also gave * powers that only reside with the Congress, not the executive branch. Democrats should demand to know what the lies are that put US troops into harm's way were. The dispicable abuse of US intell agencies itself is an impeachable act, but this has risen to TREASON,

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2001935950_iranchalabi22.html

The media again has it wrong, the intell agencies weren't 'duped' they were willfully abused.

Sen Warner et al shouldn't be allowed to run interference for a criminal enterprise. They should be exposing the lies.

[aquart]

4. Why would he need a new one

Unless you fine fellows withdraw the old one?

[BigDDem]

5. But wait...

the surge is working! They got a 50 on their report card.

[Grandrose]

6. Do Not Trust Them!

Could be another fake out? Best to read the fine print!:eyes: :kick:

[Cobalt-60]

8. Agreed. This is probably both a stall and a trick

This way they get another couple of months to stall this disaster into the next admistration.
And Allah alone what kind of horror there is to be found in the fine print.

[Nickster]

7. Do we really want two republicans out in front with this legislation?

I know that a Dem plan like this was already put out there, why not reconsider that one? I've feared for awhile that the Pukes would try and claim getting out of the war to be their idea and done by their work.

[EVDebs]

9. This legislation would REQUIRE impeachment since the WPAof'73

was violated. By abuse of our intell agencies in order to promulgate a treasonous act, think Chalabi here, treason is defined at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason

"A person who betrays the nation of their citizenship and/or reneges on an oath of loyalty and in some way willfully cooperates with an enemy, is considered to be a traitor."

Chalabi supposedly 'duped' the Bush administration and in reality was an Iranian spy. Well, you CAN'T have it both ways

Iran used Chalabi to dupe U.S., report says
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2001935950_iranchalabi22.html

Duped my ass. This administration gleefully willingly and STUPIDLY cooperated with the Iranian intelligence operation to succeed, OR this administration didn't have a damn clue what it was doing to our military. Read the Time April 16, 2007 cover story. The army is now broken and limping. Yeah BushCo, you got what you wanted.

[speedoo]

10. K&R

[rodeodance]

11. Republican Senators Call For New War Authorization

Source: nytimes



Republican Senators Call For New War Authorization
By Jeff Zeleny
The New York Times

Friday 13 July 2007

Washington - Two leading Republican senators said today that President Bush should seek a new war authorization and present a plan to Congress by Oct. 16 outlining contingency plans in Iraq. Those plans, which would include reducing American forces, should begin by the end of the year.

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"I continue to counsel the president and his administration to move now to construct a more sustainable policy in Iraq that reduces our troop commitments and transitions away from the missions of interposing ourselves between sectarian factions," Mr. Lugar said in a statement.

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One of the main elements of their amendment, which was filed shortly after noon today, would require the president to seek a new rationale for the war authorization by the time Gen. David H. Petraeus, the top military commander in Iraq, delivers a report in September on the progress of the troop buildup. The measure also would require the president to review and update the National Intelligence Estimate for Iraq no later than Sept. 4.

"Many of the conditions and motivations that existed when we authorized force almost five years ago no longer exist or are irrelevant to our current situation," Mr. Lugar said. He went on, saying the 2002 war authorization is "obsolete and requires revision."

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/13/washington/13cnd-cong.html

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Didn't Hil Clinton put a bill in for new authorization?

[rodeodance]

12. oh----I see, Clinton, next week wants a bill to "de-authorize" the war:

The Senate was already scheduled to consider a variety of proposals next week, including one by Senators Robert Byrd, Democrat of West Virginia, and Hillary Rodham Clinton, Democrat of New York, seeking to de-authorize the original war authorization. That proposal, though, is not favored by the Democratic leadership because several senators who voted against the 2002 authorization are reluctant to endorse a new one.

[The_Casual_Observer]

13. These senators have the inside dope about how they have run out of people to send

They are trying to get out of this thing gracefully, however jr is too stupid to back down.

[PSPS]

14. I don't buy it. I think they're just dragging it out to run out the clock.

It was March, then September, and now we have October and "the end of the year." They're just using this as a way to stall and gridlock anything meaningful until bush skates to paraguay.

[Doctor_J]

15. These sniveling Repukes are still playing partisan politics with this war

Why not back one of the other resolutions? Fucking treasonous bastards.

[lovuian]

16. the closer they get to elections they get scared

we do see that Lieberman's election really gave them a wakeup call