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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:03 PM Original message |
American Girls' Suicide Rates Jump |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
1. Since "hanging surpassed guns", gun-grabbers should call for a ban on rope. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:35 PM Response to Reply #9 |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
16. You're implying that teenage girls should have access to firearms? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:06 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. No, I believe suicide is a tragic affair. I understand why people might be driven to that act |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:58 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Actually, I think the argument goes more like this: |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:24 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Your reference to "households with guns" has been debunked so many times on DU's Guns forum that I |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:26 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Not only hasn't it been debunked- |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:29 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. NO,it takes a person without any common sense to keep repeating it. n/t |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 03:17 PM Response to Reply #26 |
49. You're funny. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. What study are you talking about? I'll be very surprised if you can provide a link. n/t |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. I'll call your bluff. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 04:39 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Surely you can do better than that. The issue was "households with guns" so cite a study that |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 04:40 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. That's already addressed on the Brady fact sheet. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 04:41 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Which study do you mean or don't you know? n/t |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 04:52 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. What game are you playing. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 05:07 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Thanks, and the debunking of Kellermann's flawed research can be found at the links below. |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 06:45 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. That's not a debunking. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 07:06 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. "flawed counterarguments", that's the funniest joke I've heard all day. Anyone with minimal research |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #18 |
28. I think the problem is people using guns to kill others not themselves. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 06:24 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. That's my problem also but it's criminals killing law-abiding citizens that disturb me most. SCOTUS |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 01:15 AM Response to Reply #31 |
41. What is a natural right? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 06:30 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Interesting question because the rights I mean are what protect the minority in a democratic |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 02:10 AM Response to Reply #1 |
42. You cannot shoot children across the street with rope ..... |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 09:24 AM Response to Reply #42 |
47. You must have missed the story on LBN last week |
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lakeguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 07:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
66. thats a pretty dumbass comment |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
2. Quote: "That's a rate of fewer than one per 100,000 population." nt |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
3. So very sad |
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soothsayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
4. jeezus, hanging? As popularized by the US puppets in Iraq? |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #4 |
20. i knew who child who tried to commit suicide by hanging, age 8, in the 70s |
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Maq (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 09:13 PM Response to Reply #20 |
35. KINKY SEX asphyxiaphilia |
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mogster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
5. The future does not look so bright |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:26 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Not too far off - disillusionment with government in the 60's and 70's was a factor... |
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Sadie4629 (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:31 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Much more likely to be the breakdown of the family |
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mogster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:54 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. That's a good point |
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NOLALady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:53 PM Response to Reply #8 |
19. I don't know. |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 08:00 AM Response to Reply #19 |
46. We were much more aware of politics back then |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
6. This is a switch, in the 1970s the switch was poison to guns for women |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:12 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. How is that determined? I'm just curious. |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:48 PM Response to Reply #14 |
27. It is more the FAILED attempts then the successful ones |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:32 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. That's "attempted suicide" then. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 07:27 PM Response to Reply #6 |
61. Never assume an unsuccessful suicide attempt is just a cry for help, |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
11. Boys rate still 4x that of girls |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:15 PM Response to Reply #11 |
29. I was also noticing the numbers. You'd think they'd make the problem |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 08:47 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. "You'd think they'd make the problem of boys killing themselves the focal point..." |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 08:58 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. It shouldn't be. |
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AnneD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
13. Actually, I have a different take on this..... |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:00 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. i had a comment on this in post 24 |
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AnneD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 09:46 PM Response to Reply #22 |
36. Check the post times.... |
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Maq (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 09:51 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. AnneD see asphyxiaphilia |
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AnneD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 10:00 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. I am familiar with it..... |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 05:41 PM Response to Reply #36 |
57. pills have not been the preferred method of suicide for many years, read the article |
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AnneD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 08:24 PM Response to Reply #57 |
64. I stand by what I wrote..... |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
15. Could it be because they are medicated and trying to get off the meds? nt |
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NOLALady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:09 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. That could be a large part |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
17. Teenage girls do mature faster than teenage boys |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 10:22 PM Response to Reply #17 |
39. That's a constant. nt |
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chelsea0011 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
32. Stats give me a headache. By using the overall numbers the |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 01:08 AM Response to Original message |
40. Kick. |
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silverojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 04:53 AM Response to Original message |
43. Memo to the anti-gunners: |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 01:01 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. I agree- I wish that nut in VA would have had access to rope instead of guns. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 07:49 PM Response to Reply #43 |
62. You are so right. There are always one car "accidents" |
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raebrek (467 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 07:58 AM Response to Original message |
45. Who has rope |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 05:43 PM Response to Reply #45 |
58. everybody has rope at their house except you |
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raebrek (467 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 07:51 AM Response to Reply #58 |
65. Nope, I have no rope. What would I use it for? n/t |
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ryanmuegge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
63. Yeah, this world sucks. |
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leaninglib (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-08-07 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
67. American girls are still the best in the world... |
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