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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 01:49 PM
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Rice to face subpoena in espionage case (as well as Hadley, Abrams, etc)
Edited on Fri Nov-02-07 01:57 PM by maddezmom
Source: AP

WASHINGTON - Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and other senior intelligence will be subpoenaed to discuss their discussions with pro-Israel lobbyists, a federal judge ruled Friday in an espionage case.

Lawyers for two former American Israel Public Affairs Committee lobbyists facing espionage charges have subpoenaed Rice, National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley, Deputy National Security Adviser Elliott Abrams and several others to testify at their trial next year. Prosecutors had challenged the subpoenas in federal court.

Lobbyists Steven Rosen and Keith Weissman have argued that the Israeli interest group played an unofficial but sanctioned role in crafting foreign policy and that Rice and others can confirm it. If they ultimately testify in court, the trial in federal court in suburban Alexandria, Va. could offer a behind-the-scenes look at the way U.S. foreign policy is crafted.

The lobbyists are accused of receiving classified information from a now-convicted Pentagon official and relaying it to an Israeli official and the press. The information included details about the al-Qaida terror network, U.S. policy in Iran and the bombing of the Khobar Towers dormitory in Saudi Arabia, federal prosecutors said.



Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071102/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/pentagon_spy_probe;_ylt=Ah4WwHimtlsTa0I8gWBxry0D5gcF
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 01:50 PM
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1. Hee.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 01:51 PM
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2. Thou Shalt Not Impugne My Integrity! nt
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 01:51 PM
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3. Maybe they can end up waterboarding her to get her to sing about the ...
rest of the Bush Administration crimes...
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 02:07 PM
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14. Yup, special circumstances demand special interrogation methods.
And seeing as waterboarding isn't torture, ...

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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 01:52 PM
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4. How soon thill...
They resign their positions?

Any moment now, methinks.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 01:53 PM
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5. Wham! Holy cow!
:wow:

Where did THIS come from?!?
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 01:53 PM
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6. Will they ignore court ordered subpoenas like they do with Congressional ones?
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 01:56 PM
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7. There's NO way to do that - perhaps diplomatic immunity in their OWN country?
:crazy:
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 01:56 PM
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9. That's criminal contempt isn't it?..n/t
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 02:10 PM
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16. Well yes, it is.
I've wondered how this case will shake out for um.. quite some time now. We've only finally reached this point so now we'll see just how hard Rice can and will fight it.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 02:16 PM
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18. Of course they will, silly. Laws are for the Little People.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 01:56 PM
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8. Here come the judge, here come the judge...
:evilgrin: :toast:
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 02:00 PM
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10. You mean CONVICTED/PARDONED Iran/Contra goon and SUSPECTED 2002 Chavez Coup weasel Elliot Abrams?
Edited on Fri Nov-02-07 02:01 PM by FreepFryer
Oh, him.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 02:01 PM
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11. Is this Sibel Edmonds territory?
Lawyers for two former American Israel Public Affairs Committee lobbyists facing espionage charges have subpoenaed Rice, National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley, Deputy National Security Adviser Elliott Abrams and several others to testify at their trial next year. Prosecutors had challenged the subpoenas in federal court
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 02:04 PM
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12. She got subpoenaed by AIPAC? BWHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 02:07 PM
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13. Topic subject Condi Rice Subpoena OK'ed by Federal Judge
Forum Name General Discussion
Topic subject Condi Rice Subpoena OK'ed by Federal Judge
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2192029#2192029
2192029, Condi Rice Subpoena OK'ed by Federal Judge
Posted by CorpGovActivist on Fri Nov-02-07 01:50 PM

Just now breaking. Will update with link shortly.

Google News should be flooded with links soon: http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8&q=rice+subpoena&scoring=n

MSNBC has it as its breaking news banner, with no story yet: http://www.msnbc.msn.com /

- Dave
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 02:10 PM
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15. Background
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Franklin_espionage_scandal

Background
On August 27, 2004, CBS News broke a story about an FBI investigation into a possible spy in the US Department of Defense working for Israel. The story reported that the FBI had uncovered a spy working as a policy analyst under Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Douglas Feith and then Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz. He was later identified as Lawrence Franklin, who had previously served as an attaché at the US embassy in Israel and was one of two mid-level Pentagon officials in the Office of the Secretary of Defense responsible for Iran policy in the office's Northern Gulf directorate. He has since been demoted within the Defense Department and no longer has his previous security privileges.<1><2><3> Furthermore, he was sentenced on January 20, 2006 to 12 years and 7 months in prison sentence and a $10,000 fine for passing classified information to a pro-Israel lobby group and an Israeli diplomat<4>

Lawrence Franklin has pled guilty to passing on a classified Presidential Directive, and other sensitive documents pertaining to US deliberations on foreign policy regarding Iran, to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, who in turn provided the information to Israel. FBI sources have indicated that the year-long investigation was actively underway when the CBS News story broke.

According to FBI surveillance tapes, Franklin relayed top-secret information to Steve Rosen, AIPAC's then-policy director, and Keith Weissman, a senior Iran analyst with AIPAC, while at the Tivoli Restaurant in Arlington, Virginia. On 27 August, the FBI raided Rosen's office, copying his personal computer's hard drive.<5>

According to the New York Times, Lawrence Franklin was one of two U.S. officials that held meetings with Iranian dissidents, including Paris-based arms dealer Manucher Ghorbanifar, a key figure in the Iran-Contra scandal. These Pentagon-approved meetings were brokered by neoconservative Michael Ledeen of the American Enterprise Institute, who had also played a part in Irangate, and is said to have taken place in Paris in June of 2003. The Jerusalem Post reported that the purpose of the meetings was to "undermine a pending deal that the White House had been negotiating with the Iranian government", specifically, an exchange of high-ranking al-Qaeda members in Iranian custody in return for a stop to U.S. support of the anti-Iranian Mujahideen al-Khalq fighters in Iraq.<6>broken link The Post article dated the beginning of the FBI investigation to this secret meeting, which the public first learned about in August 2003.

Franklin had previously been assigned to a unit tasked with the Pentagon's Iraq policy, raising concern that he might have been used to influence the war on Iraq, although Pentagon officials have maintained that he was in no position to influence policy. (see also Office of Special Plans)

On August 30, 2004, Israeli officials admitted that Franklin had met repeatedly with Naor Gilon, head of the political department at the Israeli Embassy in Washington and a specialist on Iran's nuclear programs, but point out that this was completely appropriate activity for the two Iran specialists. A Newsweek report indicates that Gilon was under FBI surveillance and that Franklin only became a target after these meetings.<7>

It has been suggested that Franklin's motivations may have been ideological or personal, rather than financial. An unnamed U.S. intelligence official told Newsweek: "for whatever reason, the guy hates Iran passionately."

Franklin's security clearance was revoked, although he was not fired, merely demoted. The FBI investigation continued until May 5 when he was arrested and charged with giving away top-secret information<8><9>


Criminal charges
On May 3, 2005, the FBI filed criminal charges against Franklin. The complaint alleges that, at a June 26, 2003 lunch, Franklin disclosed classified national defense information related to potential attacks on U.S. forces in Iraq to two unnamed individuals. According to media reports, the two individuals are Steve Rosen and Keith Weissman, who were employed by AIPAC at the time. The complaint also alleges that Franklin disclosed classified information to "a foreign official and members of the media", and that a search of Franklin's home found approximately 83 classified documents.<10>

Franklin appeared in court on May 4. He was released on $100,000 bond. Franklin's lawyer said he will plead not guilty.

On August 4, a federal grand jury indicted Franklin on five charges of violating the Espionage Act of 1917 <1>:

One count of conspiracy to communicate national defense information to people not entitled to receive it. (18 USC 793 (d), (e) and (g))
Three counts of communicating national defense information to people not entitled to receive it. (18 USC 793)
One count of conspiring to communicate national defense information to an agent of a foreign government. (50 US 783, 18 USC 731)
Rosen was further charged with one count each of the first two, and Weissman with one count of the first charge.

The indictment revealed that the investigation had been going on since 1999, and suggested that other individuals at AIPAC, the Defense Department and the Israeli embassy had been involved as well. The indictment also alleged that Kenneth Pollack, a National Security Council staffer during the Clinton administration, provided information to Rosen and Weissman.<11>


Guilty plea
On September 30, the Washington Post reported that Franklin was negotiating an agreement with prosecutors and would plead guilty to at least the conspiracy charges at a court hearing the following week, after which he would continue his cooperation with prosecutors.<12>

He did indeed plead guilty to the three conspiracy counts on October 5, explaining that he had shared his frustrations over U.S. Iran policy with the other two defendants regularly in 2002 and later passed documents he knew were classified to them in the hope they could get them to employees of the National Security Council who might be able to help force a harder line. He also asked Rosen for help getting him a job at the NSC; Rosen told him, "I'll see what I can do," claimed Franklin.<13>

He also passed other classified information along to an Israeli official concerning weapons testing and military activities in Iraq and other Middle Eastern countries. In return, he said, the Israeli official told him far more. Franklin stated that he knew some of the documents he passed along could be used to the detriment of U.S. national security interests.

On January 20, 2006, Judge T.S. Ellis, III sentenced Franklin to 12 years and 7 months in prison sentence and a $10,000 fine for passing classified information to a pro-Israel lobby group and an Israeli diplomat.<14>

In August, he denied Weissman and Rosen's motion to dismiss their indictment on the grounds that the government could still prosecute and punish those who retransmitted classified information regardless of whether they had a security clearance or not,<15> an interpretation of the Espionage Act that could have wide-reaching implications if it were allowed to become legal precedent.


Accusations denied by AIPAC and Israel
The spying charges have been denied by Israel as well as AIPAC. The Israeli Embassy in Washington called the charges "completely false and outrageous". AIPAC stated the allegations were "baseless and false".

On December 1, 2004 FBI agents raided the offices of AIPAC and seized computer equipment and files of Howard Kohr, the Executive Director, Richard Fishman, Managing Director, Renee Rothstein, Communication Director and Raphael Danziger. Research Director. According to an article published in the Washington Post eight days later, all were suspected of being cut-outs, agents who picked up information from Franklin and passed it on to Israel. The FBI did not bring charges against any of them.

There has been at least one other case of Israeli espionage in the United States before the AIPAC scandal. Jonathan Pollard, an Israeli spy who worked in the Naval Anti-Terrorist Alert Center, pleaded guilty to espionage and was sentenced to life in prison in 1987. The incident had a significantly detrimental impact on U.S.-Israeli relations. Israeli officials have stated that the Israeli government terminated all espionage activities in the United States after the Pollard affair.

Some believe that Israel's credibility with regards to Franklin is tainted by their insistence in the Pollard case that he likewise was not a spy, a position they maintained for 13 years before admitting, in 1998, that Pollard indeed had been a spy for Israel. Others think the damage that Israel sustained over the Pollard affair makes it unlikely that the country would again jeopardize its relationship with the United States through espionage, and note that the U.S. government has neither registered a protest with the Israelis nor accused its officials of wrongdoing in the AIPAC affair.


Pentagon statement: Franklin did not influence policy
According to a Pentagon statement, "the investigation involves a single individual at D.O.D. at the desk officer level, who was not in a position to have significant influence over U.S. policy." However, this characterization ignores evidence that while at the Office of Special Plans, Douglas Feith used Larry Franklin for sensitive projects involving foreign citizen contacts, overseas<2>.

And according to the British Newspaper The Guardian, Feith's office had an unconventional relationship with Israel's intelligence services:

The OSP was an open and largely unfiltered conduit to the White House not only for the Iraqi opposition. It also forged close ties to a parallel, ad hoc intelligence operation inside Ariel Sharon's office in Israel specifically to bypass Mossad and provide the Bush administration with more alarmist reports on Saddam's Iraq than Mossad was prepared to authorise.
"None of the Israelis who came were cleared into the Pentagon through normal channels," said one source familiar with the visits. Instead, they were waved in on Mr Feith's authority without having to fill in the usual forms.
The exchange of information continued a long-standing relationship Mr Feith and other Washington neo-conservatives had with Israel's Likud party. <3>
Unauthorized information transmitted to foreign citizens was a reason for Larry Franklin's 12 year Federal Prison sentence.

However, it is said that the information would have allowed Israel to apply pressure on the US prior to a final Iran policy statement. An undisclosed CBS News source said Franklin would have been "inside the decision-making loop" on Iran policy. Tensions between Israel and Iran have recently increased in the wake of the regional power vacuum left by the collapse of Saddam Hussein's Iraq. Israel is deeply distrustful of Iran's nuclear intentions and has warned it may carry out air strikes against Iranian nuclear reactors. Iran has indicated it may hit back in a similar fashion at Israel.


Context for the investigation

Concern about uncontrolled military technology transfers
Journalist Jim Lobe suggests that the Franklin story is part of a larger investigation into transfer of sensitive military and dual-use technologies to Israel, including powerful case-management software. A concern is that Israeli companies have sold on sensitive U.S.-derived technology to potential U.S. strategic rivals such as Russia and China, and possibly on the black market where it can potentially be obtained by terrorist groups such as al-Qaeda.<16>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Franklin_espionage_scandal



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Blaze Diem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 02:19 PM
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19. Tks..Excellant Info.
still reading..
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 03:11 PM
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23. The nature of the international intelligence conspiracy is starting to be revealed n/t
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 02:15 PM
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17. a few Jewish newspapers here:

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-8&q=rice+subpoena&scoring=n

Rice to Face Subpoena in Spy Case
The Associated Press - 15 minutes ago
Lawyers for two former American Israel Public Affairs Committee lobbyists facing espionage charges have subpoenaed Rice, National Security Adviser Stephen ...
AIPAC trial ruling: Bring on the top government officials
Ha'aretz, Israel - 20 minutes ago
The reasoning behind the subpoena of each official is sealed, but the ruling is clearly in favor of the defense. (I wrote about the AIPAC trial quite a lot. ...
Judge okays Rice, Hadley for Rosen-Weissman trial
Jewish Telegraphic Agency, NY - 1 hour ago
He warns the government that to resist the subpoenas could kill its case: "The government's refusal to comply with a subpoena in these circumstances may ...
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 02:23 PM
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20. Trial Date Set In Aipac Case--- January 14, 2008
Trial Date Set In Aipac Case, August 2, 2007


A federal judge has set a trial date early next year for two former pro-Israel lobbyists under indictment for trafficking in classified information.

At a hearing Tuesday, Judge Thomas Ellis III said the ex-staffers for the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, Steven Rosen and Keith Weissman, will go on trial beginning January 14, 2008, at the federal courthouse in Alexandria, Va.

Messrs. Rosen and Weissman have pleaded not guilty to the charges. The trial has been repeatedly delayed as the prosecution and defense quarrel over what classified information can be disclosed as part of the case.

The two men were fired from their jobs at Aipac in March 2005 after federal investigators told the group that the men deliberately obtained classified information and relayed it to journalists and Israeli diplomats. The two were indicted in August of that year for violating the Espionage Act. However, they were not charged with spying per se.

.....
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 02:43 PM
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22. the article I read said next year...
Edited on Fri Nov-02-07 02:44 PM by stillcool47
January is right around the corner...thanks...what a difference the choice of wording makes.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 08:48 PM
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30. You're welcome. And it's gonna be a wild ride. n/t
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redacted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 02:30 PM
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21. BREAKING: RICE AND OTHER SENIOR INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS TO BE SUBPOENAED (ABC News)
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 06:06 PM
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24. Rice to be subpoenaed in espionage case
Edited on Fri Nov-02-07 05:56 PM by EV_Ares
Source: MSNBC

Judge OKs calls for intel officials to discuss talks with pro-Israel lobbyists
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice may have to testify about her use of pro-Israel lobbyists as a go-between in crafting Middle East policy.

updated 2 hours, 15 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and more than a dozen other current and former intelligence officials must testify about their conversations with pro-Israel lobbyists, a federal judge ruled Friday in an espionage case.

Lawyers for two former American Israel Public Affairs Committee lobbyists facing charges have subpoenaed Rice, National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley, Deputy National Security Adviser Elliott Abrams and several others to testify at their trial next year. Prosecutors had challenged the subpoenas in federal court.

Lobbyists Steven Rosen and Keith Weissman maintain the Israeli interest group played an unofficial but sanctioned role in crafting foreign policy and that Rice and others can confirm it.




Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21599734/
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 06:06 PM
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25. Oh goody! Maybe we can try the now legal waterboarding on her. nt
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 07:20 PM
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26. So is she going to follow her own advice to her staffers? "Go where you are needed"
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 07:41 PM
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27. The only "craft" in *bush's policy is SLASH AND BURN.
Painful, bloody destruction, pure and simple.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 07:57 PM
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28. She is already in contempt of another subpoena and she
probably gave herself Immunity
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 08:16 PM
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29. "Lawyers for two former American Israel Public Affairs Committee....
have subpoenaed Rice, National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley, Deputy National Security Adviser Elliott Abrams and several others to testify at their trial next year."

Next year is a year too late.

By that time, everything will be so watered down and lawyered down, won't nothin' come of it.

Same as it ever was.

Sorry to be the cynic....

:shrug:
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 08:51 PM
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31. It's January 14, 2008. See post 20. Interesting how that fact was omitted in the original article.
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