Scott McClellan's Book Coming in April -- Admits Wrongdoing in Clearing Rove and Libby in CIA Leak C

[RamboLiberal]

Source: Editor & Publisher

To no one's surprise in a world where top White House aides with any president eventually write a book about it, former Press Sectetary Scott McClellan will be coming out with his volume in April.

It's called "What Happened" and its publisher, Public Affairs, at its Web site carries this brief excerpt:

"The most powerful leader in the world had called upon me to speak on his behalf and help restore credibility he lost amid the failure to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. So I stood at the White house briefing room podium in front of the glare of the klieg lights for the better part of two weeks and publicly exonerated two of the senior-most aides in the White House: Karl Rove and Scooter Libby.

"There was one problem. It was not true.

"I had unknowingly passed along false information. And five of the highest ranking officials in the administration were involved in my doing so: Rove, Libby, the vice President, the President's chief of staff, and the president himself."




Read more: http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003675070

[Newsjock]

1. But impeachment still is off the table?

My powder is so dry, it's all done blown away.

[cstanleytech]

79. In my opinion

at this stage its just to late and if democrats try it they will waste valuable resources and time which could be spent building a firmer foundation to take the whitehouse and keep the senate and congress under their control as well.
Once Bush is out of office and assuming no president issues him a pardon then they can charge him with crimes and put him on trial and let a jury decide his guilt or innocence for what many of us believe he has done.

[Vickers]

80. "its just to late"

Hmmmmmm.....

[Donnachaidh]

83. Baloney!

It WILL be too late once he's out of office. The jerk bought a place in Paraguay - do you really think he'll hang around if there is even a hint at something like that happening?

[polmaven]

89. I have said it before..

And I'll say it again. Part of me absolutely agrees with the idea of impeachment, but a larger part of me is monumentally frightened by it.

Imagine the scenario that the House passes articles of impeachment next week, and the case goes to the Senate for trial.

It is unlikely that 17 Republicans or 16 Republicans AND Joe Lieberman will have the integrity to do what is right and remove them from office. We know its right, but we are talking about Robopublicans here. They don't care about right or wrong, they care about "Party" and their "base".

The absolute arrogance of these two criminals will NOT...I firmly believe....will NOT see any kind of reprimand or warning.....they will see a Senate acquittal as validation of what they have been doing.

I can think of nothing more frightening than these two considering themselves to have been "proved right" in their actions.....BRRRRRRRR!!!!!:scared:

[cstanleytech]

100. That to. NT

[99th_Monkey]

91. What firmer foundation could you wish for?

It's a perfect storm for the Dems to right what is so terribly and so deeply wrong with this nation ... to get to the roots of the monstrous weeds that have overgrown and clouded what this nation stands for in the world. Sibel Edmonds is crying out, at great risk to her own life, to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth as to how corrupt this Administration is. I know, it may take a few Dems down along with them: so be it.

To shrink from their constitutional duty at this point is nothing less than complicity aiding and abetting the criminals in the WH, and indeed "playing politics" with the peoples trust and the nation's future as a viable democracy.

[cstanleytech]

139. No, its not.

They control barely half the seats in the senate and the odds are a 1 or 2 democrats would not vote for impeachment and that the republicans would probably all vote against it as well. After all we have seen how they stand together so well with sham votes for withdrawl of troops so expecting them to impeach Bush after following him around like a group of zombies is unrealistic to say the least.
Edit: Dont forget if the vote goes 50/50 Cheney is the tie breaker assuming the law does not invalidate his voting on this issue and take a guess which way he would vote.

[Gonnuts]

102. Question

If you woke in the middle of the night and discovered a burglar in your house, what would you do?

I think there are several answers to this question but the last thing you'd do is go back to sleep and hope that the burglar doesn't steal too much, and maybe rape and murder your family and you for kicks before he leaves.

You catch my drift?

The amount of damage bush&co could still do is enormous. I'm every leery about the few months before the election. Given the gravity of their crimes and recent legislation, signing statements and presidential directives, what makes anyone think they won't declare Marshall Law and suspend elections for "nation security" reasons?

Call me paranoid, but you judge the future from the past, and given their past the future doesn't look so good.

[AllyCat]

121. Excellent point

I would love to see Dems just go for this anyway. I don't even care anymore if it passes or not. The Repukes will fall into lockstep, but the American people (most of them anyway) will see the crimes of this Administration and hopefully wise up and maybe even rise up.

I'm tired of us sitting back because "we want to win the WH"! At what cost? Our principles? If that's the "prize" then I say it's not worth it.

Impeach these criminals. It would be a great first step.

[99th_Monkey]

90. That's a good one! Blown away. Yep. great imagery. n/t

[K Gardner]

99. David Shuster: BUSH LIED

After discussing it here for how long now.. this is finally "BREAKING NEWS" on MSNBC. The headline appears to be "The President Lied". Now, we know that, so no news on this board. But I do think this is going to gain some traction in mainstream press and especially with the populace who doesn't follow as deep or as closely as we do. Maybe impeachment not so far off the table? For god's sake, what's a blow job compared to this monster's high crimes and misdemeanors?

[Gonnuts]

103. Beam us up Scotty ...

Again, there are only two conclusions:

One: You know you lied

Two: Your incompetence is so beyond the pale as to be criminal.

My only hope is that some of the information gleamed in this book can be used against them (Scotty included) if and when they ever come to trial.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

124. Has the Prosecutor still got 'sand in his eyes'

why didn't Fitzgerald nail Bush and Cheney re CIA leak?

[magellan]

2. I see what the real problem with the dollar is now.

The buck's been passed so much by this administration and its minions, it's threadbare.

"unknowingly" my sweet ass.

[Kikosexy2]

74. He basically...

just read the script...no questions asked...no facts checked...just read it...feed the masses with Bushit and smile...

[damntexdem]

86. And now tells all way too late.

[EVDebs]

75. DUzy alert ! Great one. nt

[Lautremont]

3. He's not admitting any wrongdoing.

"I had unknowingly passed along false information!" Ooh, poor Scotty. Misled again!

[Orsino]

27. Bingo. That's everyone's excuse.

Not a damned one of them actually knew what was going on, having been duped by a faceless "they."

Even * and Cheney will one day claim to have been out of whatever loops are actually getting prosecuted.

[mwb970]

29. And Ken Lay had "no idea" what was happening at Enron.

Right.

[mnmoderatedem]

65. plausible deniability is a staple for the * admin

it's what got Rove off the hook in his Matt Cooper email lie.

"I forgot!!"

[Occulus]

77. AND Bush Sr., and Reagan

Not knowing what they should know about their jobs seems to be something republican administrations have in common.

[MADem]

4. Will he tell us about the Gannon biz, and come out of the closet in this book?

If he's gonna 'come clean' he might as well take a full bath...

Otherwise, it's just an ass-covering exercise.

[Hulk]

5. Hey...anyone surprised? Just another prick who sold his soul to the devil.

Start the hearings. Call for impeachment of these war criminals and traitors to the Constitution and the honor of this country. I'll NEVER see our honor returned in my lifetime. I'll NEVER see the national debt brought under control in my lifetime. And I'll get to spend the rest of my life with Iraqi Vets standing along side the highway begging for money. What a proud world this prick and his court have left us.

[MissDeeds]

30. I agree

But nothing will come of this - no hearings, no impeachment. One more shame and disgrace for the nation to bear as this fetid administration gets away with it. Again.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

6. If I read that right, he just called those five liars.

Who was the chief of staff at that time? Hadley?

[leftynyc]

23. Andrew Card

Hadley was deputy national security advisor (now NSA - Condi's former job)

[ChairmanAgnostic]

34. so easy to get confused with all those future indictments

Andrew, what a cad.

[The Backlash Cometh]

45. He sure did. Does it matter?

[Cha]

85. That's what blows me away..

who knew scotty was kiss and tell?

[samplegirl]

7. and that makes Scott McClellan

even a bigger liar...for doing so.

[flordehinojos]

8. "I had unknowingly passed along false information ..."

This particular line, "I had unknowingly passed along false information ..." repeated often enough, by many a bush player (Scott McClellan, Colin Powell and WMDs ...) begins to sound like poppy's famous old, "i was out of the loop line" ... So, who is ever in the know, ever in the loop, ever in the light, in a bush administration.

What will Dana Perrino say when she can no longer keep a straigth face to her lying each day, or her honesty/integrity become more important to her than her lying for a swift asshole?

Does anyone in a Bush administration ever know what they are doing?

Will anyone CRY and ask FORGIVENESS for all the harm their greediness, or blindness, of kissabushass, has wrought upon this world?

Sorry Scotty you could have said it long ago. You could have said it from the Podium. You had the chance to tell Bush in his face that he was a lying asshole, a poo-poppy spoiled brat, you could have done so much ... and you did nothing except feed your face and your pocket ... and now as you wash your hands of all or any guilt ... you want our coins to continue feeding your pocket? you ought to be carted off to jail along with poo-poppy's child and all the rest of them.

[The Wizard]

38. They all use the Sergeant Shultz defense"

"I see nothing. I hear nothing. I know nothing." Trouble is, this ain't no sitcom, but a tragedy we'll all be paying off for the next (fill in the blank) generations.
Like Prescott Bush during WW II, everyone associated with these scumbags should have their assets seized and returned to the Treasury.
They all deserve to be living under freeway bridges in refrigerator boxes for the pain and suffering they inflicted on civilization for personal gain.

[Jackpine Radical]

42. The Sgt Schultz defense is the classic technique of a pawn

trapped in circumstances not of his own making and totally beyond his control. As I remember the show (never watched it much), Schultz was a very sympathetic character, not trying to hurt anyone, just trying to survive, trapped in a brutal machine in brutal times.

[UpInArms]

53. iirc, it was Poppy that developed the "plausible deniability" line

in the very first place - over the Iran-Contra affair.

I guess I'll have to go and read those 3000 pages of the Walsh report all over again.

http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/walsh/

Have I mentioned lately how exhausted this mal-administration makes me?

[UpInArms]

55. here's the part that is most pertinent

http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/walsh/chap_28.htm

George Bush served as vice president through the Reagan presidency from 1981 to 1989. In January 1989, he succeeded Reagan as President. It was in his capacity as President that Bush committed what will likely become his most memorable act in connection with Iran/contra. On December 24, 1992, twelve days before former Secretary of Defense Caspar W. Weinberger was to go to trial, Bush pardoned him.1 In issuing pardons to Weinberger and five other Iran/contra defendants, President Bush charged that Independent Counsel's prosecutions represented the ``criminalization of policy differences.''

1 President Bush also pardoned former National Security Adviser Robert C. McFarlane, former Assistant Secretary of State Elliott Abrams, former CIA Central American Task Force Chief Alan D. Fiers, Jr., former CIA Deputy Director for Operations Clair E. George, and former CIA Counter-Terrorism Chief Duane R. Clarridge. The Weinberger pardon marked the first time a President ever pardoned someone in whose trial he might have been called as a witness, because the President was knowledgeable of factual events underlying the case.

The criminal investigation of Bush was regrettably incomplete. Before Bush's election as President, the investigation was primarily concerned with the operational conspiracy and the careful evaluation of the cases against former National Security Adviser John M. Poindexter and Lt. Col. Oliver L. North of the National Security Council staff, prior to their indictment in March 1988. This included a review of any exculpatory material that might have shown authorization for their conduct. In the course of this investigation, Vice President Bush was deposed on January 11, 1988.

A year later Bush was President-elect, and OIC was engaged in the intensive preparation for the trial of North, which began on January 31, 1989. After the completion of the trials of North and Poindexter and the pleas of guilty of retired Air Force Maj. Gen. Richard V. Secord and Albert Hakim, OIC broadened its investigation to those supporting and supervising Poindexter and North. This investigation developed a large amount of new material with which it intended to question President Bush. His interrogation was left to the end because, as President, he obviously could not be questioned repeatedly. It was Independent Counsel's expectation that he would be available after the completion of the 1992 Presidential election campaign.

In light of his access to information, Bush would have been an important witness. In an early interview with the FBI in December 1986 and in the OIC deposition in January 1988, Bush acknowledged that he was regularly informed of events connected with the Iran arms sales, including the 1985 Israeli missile shipments.2 These statements conflicted with his more extreme public assertions that he was ``out of the loop'' regarding the operational details of the Iran initiative and was generally unaware of the strong opposition to the arms sales by Secretary of Defense Weinberger and Secretary of State George P. Shultz. He denied knowledge of the diversion of proceeds from the arms sales to assist the contras.3 He also denied knowledge of the secret contra-resupply operation supervised by North.4

2 Bush, FBI 302, 12/12/86; Bush, OIC Deposition, 1/11/88. But Bush's recollection was very general and he did not recall specific details of meetings in which the Iran arms sales were discussed.

[flordehinojos]

81. me too ... and thank you for posting a link to the wash documents.

i'd read them long ago ... will read again, as well. also, someone with the capability of printing 3000 pages ought to so they would still be around when the bushes decide to burn whichever library is housing those papers.

[trof]

136. I would have said Nixon.

[LiberalFighter]

62. Perrino is a total boob mentally

[flordehinojos]

82. agreed!

[AntiFascist]

9. Um, shouldn't this call for an investigation?

followed by impeachment?

[Reno.Muse]

12. It should be the start of another major investigation ...but just like the DOJ attorney

investigation, Reid and Pelosi will drop kick it under the table in Congress. Hmmmmm, are they also complicit?

[Jackpine Radical]

43. I'm sorry.

Snotty McDribble is off the table.

[FunMe]

111. Happy Holidays ... IMPEACHMENTS for all of them!

Yup, I believe the ENABLERS are just as guilty.

Sounds like Pelosi & Reid need to be impeached along with bush and cheney!

[stubtoe]

64. In a rational world it would!

Yeesh. What IS it gonna take?

*bangs head*

[AntiFascist]

94. Really this should be taken seriously....

the "exoneration of Karl Rove" "not being true" implies there indeed was a conspiracy. It only takes two to make a conspiracy.

[DeSwiss]

10. What a piece of work....

...they're all slime. Every damned last one of them

- K&R

[michaz]

11. And it goes on and on and on and on.......

and we do nothing!!

[Solly Mack]

13. shocking

ho hum

any day now

[graywarrior]

14. Screw the country, write a book...cha-ching.

That's all they care about...money.

[ShaneGR]

15. At least McClellan is telling the truth now....

That's a lot more than can be said of a lot of them.

[JerseygirlCT]

28. Some of it, anyway. nt

[Javaman]

40. Naa, not really, just shifting the blame to someone else. typical of all those that

have served the devil king*

All he is trying to do is scrub off some of the vile crud, left over from his tenure as liar secretary, with a wire brush.

[rtassi]

116. With all due respect

Scott is simply following in the foot steps of his father Barr, who wrote his kiss and tell about LBJ's complicity in the Kennedy assassination, after he spent years at the law firm engaged in an exclusive practice devoted to covering up Johnson's ongoing criminal activities. Runs in the Family I guess!

[cstanleytech]

157. Only because he is trying to make a buck off it. NT

[12string]

16. unknowingly

my ass.Fuck you Snotty.I hope your book is on the discount
shelf before the end of the first printing.You lying piece of
shit.Oh yeah,did I mention,FUCK YOU!I hate you fucking
assholes with every last ounce of my being.I watched your
lying ass on teevee enough to know deep down in my heart that
no one can believe anything that comes out of your
criminal,lying mouth.And lest I forget,FUCK YOU!I generally
don't use such colorful metaphors in my posts but sometimes I
just have to let the sugarcoating fall away and say what I
need to say.FUCK YOU!

[wake.up.america]

37. Did Snotty know the higher ups knew it was poppycock to state Iraq had WMDs?

[The Wizard]

39. Stop holding back

Just say what you really feel.

[Just-plain-Kathy]

17. I don't know what's worst...

...do we boycott this book and never let Scottie get rich off of his 'unknowing' crime? Or do we make it a best seller? Maybe all the little rat$ will come out of the woodwork with their tell alls.

[creeksneakers2]

18. They need to be juicier

Shocking things went on all the time at Bush's White House. Scott's only defending himself about a matter that was already out there. If a book comes out with the real dirt, I'll buy it.

[sam sarrha]

19. 'unknowingly...' anybody who works anywhere near the top knows "EVERYTHING" IS A LIE

[sam sarrha]

20. I want to know when he finally figured it out. !!!!!!!!!!!!!

:rofl: :shrug:

[ramapo]

21. Sounds like the rule of law

should come into play here. Maybe the lying scum should be impeached or, better yet, wait until they're out of office. Then arrest their asses.

[Tab]

22. Scott

You were even worse than Ari Fleisher. You dissembled to no end, you didn't answer fricking ANYTHING.

I'm not buying your fucking book. If you felt this strongly (or this guilty) and didn't have the balls to resign, don't go peddling your book to me.

Where were you when we needed you?

Asshole.

[King Coal]

31. I think he did resign, Daddyo.

[Tab]

33. Yes he did

after spending an inordinate amount of time "in service of his country". I meant that if he didn't have the conviction to tell us the truth that he should have resigned as soon as he figured that out. Ari was bad, but Scott was the worst of the worst.

[King Coal]

35. Maybe he says in the book when he first found out the truth. You have to be subjective here.

[EVDebs]

76. You mean his first inkling that he'd have to hire an attorney for himself ? The pile of lies

just got too big for even the biggest media fool to not laugh at during a press conference.

[Alter Ego]

24. ...and the floodtide begins.

I wonder how many more books there will be?

[Ian David]

25. In his Daily Show interview, Scotty admitted that he WANTED to be kept in the dark...

so that he would be more free in what information he could pass along without "knowingly" passing along false information.

[wake.up.america]

48. That tells me, at the very least, Snotty later knew they were lying.

[stlsaxman]

115. He learned the concept of "plausible deniability" well!

from his boss, Cheney.

[JerseygirlCT]

26. LOL... "unknowingly" Yeah, we're buying it, Scotty

even he can't be that stupid.

[City Lights]

32. Same shit, different player.

:eyes:

[progressoid]

69. Same shit...different asshole

[rockybelt]

36. So

when is this son of a bitch going to prison?

[tanyev]

41. It was Not Me and Ida Know's fault!

Those gremlins are so mean! :cry:

[The Backlash Cometh]

44. How much you bet we're going to be hearing this refrain over and over again,

"My trust was betrayed by those who held power over me."

[BridgeTheGap]

46. Is it damage control or a grudge to settle?

Or even a simple challenge of "Yeah, we did it...so what? What are you going to do about it, ass holes?"
Maybe the last. They seem to be very brazen people who think they can get away with anything.

[boricua79]

47. while he's at it

can he finally admit his gay and stop being part of the anti-gay machine that is the Republican party.

Thanks.

[peacetalksforall]

49. So he laid out the book in two columns - and one with sub-columns:

What to include. What to exclude.

What to include has three sub-columns:

What to lie about.
What to distort.
What to tell the truth about.

To protect your former boses.

Hey Scotty, - we know or can surmise EVERYTHING ALREADY, EXCEPT how Gannon got in and stayed in - which ended up in more secrecy with a rule change - the non-release of the sign-in/sign- out list. As ordered by the Secret Service?

[formercia]

50. The Nuremberg Defense

"I was just following orders."


That pig won't fly.

[L0oniX]

51. Like anyone is going to believe anything that hose bag has to say

[Hubert Flottz]

52. A work of FICTION meant for the Bush library of lost souls...

Hope there are mostly pictures so the shrub can digest it too.

[marmar]

54. Another former BushCo goon seeking to clear his conscience? ....

.... Contrition is easy when your job's no longer on the line.

:nopity:

[Baby Snooks]

56. Disgusting

He thinks admitting it now somehow absolves him of his complicity. He is disgusting. And his mother wanted to be governor of Texas? She is reflected well by her son.

[disndat]

57. ..and just think folks

this crooked corrupt administration has set a low standard for succeeding administrations to follow, esp., if H.C. is to be elected. Her 'planted' questioners and the set-up debate on CNN last week is right out of the Bush (Rove) administration playbook, BIG media complicit with BIG Wash DC power.

[L. Coyote]

58. Lying seems to be the official policy of the JUNTA. No surprise for election thieves!

[sandrakae]

59. Boy the like to eat their own.

[Bitwit1234]

60. And the administration,

Fox news, rush limbaugh, and the rest of the right wing voices, WHO YOU GONNA BELIEVE BUSH OR SCOTTY....I will bet without a doubt this guy gets plowed under..Two weeks at tops.

[DirtyDawg]

61. This Is A Hoot....

Since I don't believe that there's a single human in this damned administration that's in possession of a conscience, it's got to be either somebody really pissed him off, or they didn't set aside enough hush money to shut him up for the rest of his life...or both.

I've said all along that the truth of this bunch won't even dent the cognitive dissonance of the rightwing base until those closest to the admin start to write their 'tell-all' books. This looks like one. Of course, McClellan is such a wimp his 'swiftboating' will be fast and easy - that's the thing about a 'fall-guy', he can't get anybody to believe him. The thing that seems strange is how they let him write it in the first place? Is what's left of the Repig party trying to distance themselves from bushco? Are they gonna start coming out with 'if I had only known'...and 'with me things will be different'?

[DeepModem Mom]

63. K&R

[Amonester]

66. 3,873 Law Suites (MINIMUM)

http://icasualties.org/oif

That's the very least this lying sack of shit must be made to face. :grr:

Of course, nobody will follow suite. :cry:

Integrity back in the White House oblige...

[DWilliamsamh]

67. He's trying to avoid culpability

I can not believe that there is a world in which, under the circumstances at the time, the White House Press secretary would NOT have known the truth of Cheney, Rove, Bush, etc's involvement in the Plame Leak. He is a base liar. Saying he passed on false info "unknowingly" strains credulity beyond the boundaries any normally intelligent person could possibly believe. But he's well practiced in that: he did the exact same thing every day of work he was Press Secty.

This is the standard Republican defense at least since Iran-Contra: "Take your pick. I'm either incompetent or a complete idiot. Either way I can't be found guilty."

He's a lying bastard, always was always will be.

[alllyingwhores]

68. Actually, there are a couple of problems...or at least six problems...

Isn't the fact that this asshole, himself, lies to the American people in order to cover up and pursue illegal activity--and the fact that he and the other five are not in jail a bigger problem or problems?

Or, the fact that the corporate media knew he and others were lying, and continue to lie, and refuse to confront any of them--also a problem?

[eagleswing963]

70. Sad but true

When we allow a political party to blow millions to impeach a man over a blowjob, but let this son of a bitch Bush get away with over 3700 acts of murder!!!

[Baby Snooks]

72. 3700?

The millions of Iraqis and Iranians murdered as a result of the Bushes and their "neo-cons" through the years don't matter?

[BrklynLiberal]

71. IF he did not know, it was willful ignorance...

Anyone with half a brain knew the truth.

[benld74]

73. I guess a public forum is a confessional booth for these *sses

[cstanleytech]

78. To little to late I say for McClellan

as he had the chance way before this and all he is doing now is looking to make a buck off it.

[DesEtoiles]

84. Change title to: "What the F*** Happened?"

[Hulk]

87. Who gives a rat's ass what this soul-less liar has to say about anything??

In my humble opinion, this piece of shit has NO credibility with me or with anyone who yearns for truth. He has lied to us on behalf of this devil in the White House, he has helped to permit this pathetic excuse for a preznit get away with blindfolding the American public, and now he wants to tell "the truth"? Oh please!!

He just wants to sell his piece of toilet paper book. He's a traitor to his country and NOW a traitor to the devil he served. Worthless trash...he and his worthless book.

[tandem5]

88. I see that media punching bag rocks whichever way the money blows...

of course one would have to actually read to book to confirm this, but I aint touching it!

[sofa king]

92. The working title was: "Lies I Made Up Whilst Sitting On The Toilet."

And the blurb on the back of the book, I hear, says this:


Some of McClellan's best lies come to him while sitting on the can. But he's also really good at lying in press conferences, as a news guest, in line at the Five Guys burger joint ("Are you Scott McClellan?" "No." "That's good, 'cause if you were I'd kick the fuckin' shit out of you."), to his estranged spouse and also the various men and women he cheats on his spouse with with, to God, to mankind, and to himself. Mr. McClellan recently underwent surgery to have his buttocks removed, which were infected by a nasty bite from the truth, which Mr. McClellan was unaware of until after a routine visit to the free clinic, where he often goes to get free condoms.

[Supersedeas]

93. when will we hear the disgruntled former employee card?

[Blue_Tires]

95. ttt

[Gman]

96. Scotty to Rove: Did you do it?

Rove to Scotty: No (snicker, snicker) Now run along little Scotty
,
,
,
Scotty to WH Press Corp: I personally spoke with Karl Rove about this and I can tell you... :puke:

--------------

But is this article saying that Scotty is saying that Bush willfully lied and obstructed justice? I've never taken Scotty seriously about anything. He looks like a kid and appears the epitome of a lap dog.

[jazzjunkysue]

110. OJ didn't do it, either.

:)

[LSK]

97. Conyers and/or Waxman really need to have him testify

Maybe Leahy too.

[katty]

98. LIKE WE DIDN'T SUSPECT?! & NOW YOU SPEAK OUT??!!

screw you!

[donkeyotay]

101. Will he testify as to this conspiracy to defraud the United States?

A conspiracy that included the President and the Vice President?

A crime was committed. The President told the American people he would conduct an investigation and hold those responsible accountable. Instead, he conspired to defraud the United States.

Here's from "United States v. George W Bush et al. by Elizabeth de la Vega (a contributor to Tomdispatch.com, but also "a federal prosecutor for twenty-one years...")

"...Executive branch employees hold their positions as a public trust and that the American people have a right to expect that they will fulfill that trust in accordance with certain ethical standards and principles. These include abiding by the Constitution and laws of the United States, as well as not using their offices to further private goals and interests.

Pursuant to the Constitution, their oaths of office, the status as Executive Branch employees...(they) are required to obey Title 18, United States Code, Section 371, which prohibits conspiracies to defraud the United States.

As used in Section 371, the term "to defraud the United States" means "to interfere with or obstruct one of its lawful government functions by deceit, craft, trickery, or at least by means that are dishonest." The term also means to "impair, obstruct, or defeat the lawful function of any department of government" by use of "false or fraudulent pretenses or representations." <end>

So Chucklenuts appeared before his subjects and lied his face off about looking for the leaker just like he laughed about looking for the WMD. The millions spent, the charade of Fitzgerald...all just another fraud in an administration made of fraud.

[lgrove]

104. Criminal conduct?

I don't think lying to the press amounted to criminal conduct
on the part of McClellan. However, the press passing those
lies along (as dutiful stenographers) certainly was.
McClellan's lies and bluster were evident to any thinking
viewer; the press are simply lying whores--they should be on
trial!

[robertpaulsen]

105. Golly, why won't this Tempest in a Teapot Dome just go away?

Recommended!

:kick:

[wicket]

106. Hoo boy

:popcorn:

[Nimrod2005]

107. K

[Baby Snooks]

108. A family tradition...

His father, Barr McClellan, waited 40 years to write a book about the Kennedy assassination. Claiming that LBJ was behind the assassination. If so, well, it was a little late to do anything about it. Including allowing possible refutation by LBJ. Of course LBJ might have claimed it was HL Hunt. Or George HW Bush. Or any number of men in Texas who wanted LBJ in the White House. If he knew, LBJ took the secret to the grave. Reality is that most of the oilmen in Texas wanted LBJ in the White House. And really didn't shed any tears on November 22, 1963. So pick your conspiracy. And pick your assassin behind the assassin.

So it's a family tradition. Do in the boss after the boss can't do you in. They were Democrats. His mother, Carole Strayhorn, became a Republican. Then ran for governor of Texas as an Independent rather than become a Democrat again. Which she might have had she had time to convince enough people to take her seriously as a Democrat. Which few would simply because no one really took her seriously as a Republican. Who knows what she is now. Or what Scott is. Who cares about people who sit on secrets and then tell them only when it is "safe" to tell them?

The White House of course will deny it. And probably claim that they told Scott McClellan that it was a matter of leaving voluntarily or being fired and this is just a "disgruntled former employee" with an axe to grind. And the Republicans will wave their little flags. And curse his mother.

[Divine Discontent]

109. impeach, indict, imprison.... no other option upholds the demands of the Constitution n/t

[ldf]

114. you forgot

execute.

the deserved punishment for treason for the purpose of overturning the constitution based government of this country.

:grr:

[Duppers]

112. Keith Olbermann: Can Joe Wilson / Valerie Plame use this in their current lawsuit?

Yes, possibly.

Keith is still talking to Eugene Robertson of the WoPo...

This isn't going away.

[aquart]

132. I thought their suit was tossed. It's still on?

[Duppers]

134. Their Appeal is still on.

STATEMENT ON AMBASSADOR JOSEPH AND VALERIE WILSONS' APPEAL FILED ON JULY 20
July 20, 2007

Today, on behalf of Joe and Valerie Wilson, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington filed an appeal from yesterday’s district court’s decision dismissing their lawsuit. Having had the opportunity to review Judge Bates’ decision, the Wilsons and their legal team have concluded that there are ample grounds for appeal and have taken the steps necessary to seek review by a higher court. The Wilsons believe that this case presents important issues regarding the abuse of government power for political ends and will continue to aggressively pursue all legal remedies. Hopefully, this case will deter future government officials from endangering our national security to further a partisan agenda.

http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/29517

But I haven't heard nor can I find anything about it other than Keith's bringing it up once and awhile.

[Duppers]

135. Olbermann On McClellan Revelations/ link & video

Olbermann On McClellan Revelations: Bush Was A Passively Involved “Liar In Chief”
By: Logan Murphy on Tuesday, November 20th, 2007

Tonight on Countdown, Keith Olbermann talked to MSNBC’s David Shuster about revelations from former White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan’s new book, that President Bush, Dick Cheney and Karl Rove were directly involved in deceiving the American people about their roles in outing covert CIA operative, Valerie Plame. Anyone paying attention knew these allegations to be true all along, but as you would expect, Olbermann and Shuster nail it.



Keith also spoke with John Dean (video links below) about the resurrected scandal and brought up some more than interesting points. The Plame leak investigation is still ongoing, Patrick Fitzgerald never formally closed it. Dean suggests that there is a real possibility that these allegations open the door to a possible conspiracy to defraud the government charge and if Fitzgerald found enough evidence to proceed with his investigation, he could do so at any time. We can only hope…


http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/11/20/olbermann-on-mcclellan-revelations-bush-was-a-passively-involved-liar-in-chief/

VIDEO at link.

[Duppers]

137. there's a thread on this subject now

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2322682

[FunMe]

113. McLiar

Who's going to buy a a book full of LIES from someone nicknamed McLIAR?

[redacted]

117. WHAT? SCOTTY SAID WHAT TODAY?

I was last on DU about 8 hours ago. I just finished work and turned on Malloy, and he's saying that all of a sudden, as of 5PM Eastern tonight, we've got 40 or 50 un-indicted co-conspirators at the very top of the Administration because of what Scotty said!

This is astonishing. What the hell happened?

(Malloy show is at http://www.novamradio.com/index.php?pid=30.)

[Gregorian]

118. Can I get a "Fitzmas"? Amen.

Well somebody had to say it. After all, his case is still open, if I recall.

[winston61]

119. Unknowingly my happy ass-

This is a guy who knew Bush and Rove from the old days in Texas. Even if he did not know specifics he still knew he working for two bastards who would lie when the truth would do less harm.

[calimary]

120. For the love of GOD, Nancy,

Put it BACK ON THE TABLE!!!

[lovuian]

122. Unknowingly???hmmm

thats like Colin Powell saying he unknowingly led us to war with Iraq

[tekisui]

123. Impeach the Traitors.

They all conspired to commit Treason.

Impeach, NOW!

[Rosa Luxemburg]

125. Jailing them would be better

these are crimes

[tekisui]

126. Impeach, Indict, Incarcerate.

Criminals deserve it all.

[usregimechange]

127. Involved sounds like knew and directed me, crime?

[usregimechange]

128. why is this not on the front page of the msm?

[usregimechange]

129. Get this news to the people guys...

[aquart]

130. How does he know he was "passing false information"?

If he was so "unknowing" and all.

[usregimechange]

131. kick

[Kool Kitty]

133. Lying sack of shit.

All of them. And Tweety surmising that Bush didn't know? More bullshit.

I am so looking forward to Ms. Perino's next presser. She must be dying, thinking of facing everyone in that room after this. Oh, wait a minute. In order for her to feel uncomfortable about facing the press, the press would actually have to act like real reporters and ask probing questions and follow-ups.

[Supersedeas]

138. Now that one of their own is spilling the beans--when will the GOP/TV Media Establishment take a

closer look and do an expose of the Presidents misrepresentations and the commutation of a perjurer.

[Xipe Totec]

140. Former aide blames Bush for leak deceit (Mcclellan)

Source: Associated Press

WASHINGTON - Former White House press secretary Scott McClellan blames President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney for efforts to mislead the public about the role of White House aides in leaking the identity of a CIA operative.

"There was one problem. It was not true," McClellan writes, according to a brief excerpt released Tuesday. "I had unknowingly passed along false information. And five of the highest-ranking officials in the administration were involved in my doing so: Rove, Libby, the vice president, the president's chief of staff and the president himself."

Bush's chief of staff at the time was Andrew Card.

The excerpt, posted on the Web site of publisher PublicAffairs, renews questions about what went on in the West Wing and how much Bush and Cheney knew about the leak. For years, it was McClellan's job to field — and often duck — those types of questions.

Now that he's spurring them, answers are equally hard to come by.

White House press secretary Dana Perino said it wasn't clear what McClellan meant in the excerpt and she had no immediate comment. McClellan turned down interview requests Tuesday.



Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071120/ap_on_go_pr_wh/cia_leak_mcclellan_5

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From the open up another can of worms department...

[BOSSHOG]

141. Does this make scotty eligible for the witness protection program?

He must feel really good about himself being all liberal and telling the truth and stuff. What a cesspool the white house has been over the past seven years.

[Xipe Totec]

143. I'd be asking to be beamed up right about now...

[OKIsItJustMe]

142. Excerpt

http://www.publicaffairsbooks.com/publicaffairsbooks-cgi-bin/display?book=9781586485566&view=excerpt

WHAT HAPPENED
Inside the Bush White House and What's Wrong with Washington
SCOTT MCCLELLAN

SUMMARY | EXCERPT
The most powerful leader in the world had called upon me to speak on his behalf and help restore credibility he lost amid the failure to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. So I stood at the White house briefing room podium in front of the glare of the klieg lights for the better part of two weeks and publicly exonerated two of the senior-most aides in the White House: Karl Rove and Scooter Libby.

There was one problem. It was not true.

I had unknowingly passed along false information. And five of the highest ranking officials in the administration were involved in my doing so: Rove, Libby, the vice President, the President's chief of staff, and the President himself.

[rAVES]

144. You know the Drill Scott.. no small aircraft!

[Xipe Totec]

145. We better hurry if we want an autographed copy of the book

those are going to be priceless soon.

[DemoTex]

146. Et Tu Ari? Et Tu Tony?

Ari Fleischer and Tony Snow know that they were lied to by the Bu$h regime. We know that Ari and Tony were lied to by Bu$hco. Ari and Tony know that we know that they were lied to and that we know that they, Ari and Tony, like Scotty, subsequently lied to us. We all know that Dana Perino lies whenever her lips move. The world knows. Dogs and cats know.

So when are Ari and Tony stepping up to corroborate Scotty? There's a lot at stake here, men. Like, perhaps, you don't already know that.

[Xipe Totec]

147. Et tu USA? Et Tu France? Et Tu Poland?

:rofl:

[jimshoes]

148. Love those Luckovich toons

He does the best chimpy hands down.

[tabasco]

149. "...unknowingly passed along false information."

:rofl:

You knew you were lying, Snotty and so did we!

[Skittles]

150. that bastard weasel is a repuke whore

he regularly and willingly passed on their lies for a living and now he is whining because this one made him look like a fool - he can fuck himself

[aggiesal]

151. Former aide blames Bush for leak deceit

Source: USA Today

WASHINGTON (AP) — Former White House press secretary Scott McClellan blames President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney for efforts to mislead the public about the role of White House aides in leaking the identity of a CIA operative.

In an excerpt from his forthcoming book, McClellan recounts the 2003 news conference in which he told reporters that aides Karl Rove and I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby were "not involved" in the leak involving operative Valerie Plame.

"There was one problem. It was not true," McClellan writes, according to a brief excerpt released Tuesday. "I had unknowingly passed along false information. And five of the highest-ranking officials in the administration were involved in my doing so: Rove, Libby, the vice president, the president's chief of staff and the president himself."

Bush's chief of staff at the time was Andrew Card.

The excerpt, posted on the website of publisher PublicAffairs, renews questions about what went on in the West Wing and how much Bush and Cheney knew about the leak. For years, it was McClellan's job to field — and often duck — those types of questions.
...

*************************************************************************************

Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-11-20-mclellan-leak_N.htm#LogIn

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The Repubs are starting to eat their own.
And, right before the election.

It's a beautiful thing!

[Cha]

152. It's Gargantuan...I hope scotty

has documents to back 'im up! :)

[LeFleur1]

153. Understanding

I understand he has nothing but his word.
This is a teaser, and it is all that is in the book about these crooks.

They'll just say he's a disgruntled employee and they did no evil, saw no evil, heard no evil. Because THEY are the evil.

[acmavm]

154. The thing that AMAZES me is that we (here at DU) knew they were

lying, but now all of a sudden just because old Snotticles says they lied, it's official. Like this criminal administration didn't have a track record of lying about EVERYTHING?

And unless Snotticles was given some form of immunity during the investigation, I suggest they arrest his and try him out for blindfolds. Maybe they can give him a form-fitting one in a color he likes as he gets the usual punishment for being a traitor.

[Cha]

156. I predict scotty's voice

will be drowned out soon enough..but, it's a big something coming from a former presser sec of the bushites.

Who'd a thunk it?

[opihimoimoi]

155. Scotty goes Canary....others will follow......the B.House is falling