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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 07:45 PM
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Armed Forces Face 'Failure' In Afghanistan
Source: Telegraph UK

British troops are facing "operational failure" in Afghanistan due to years of chronic Government under-funding, according to former heads of the armed forces.

The lives of hundreds of soldiers could be lost unless the Government starts to fund the military properly, they argue.

General Lord Guthrie of Craigiebank, who served as the Chief of the Defence Staff in 2001, said: "Operational and tactical failure in Afghanistan is now not impossible to believe."

Their warning follows one of the most damaging weeks for the Government since Gordon Brown took over from Tony Blair in June.

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"Troops are having to deploy without having had the equipment and training to properly prepare," said Admiral Boyce yesterday. "You have people leaving because of low morale and no Army infantry battalion is fully manned. That is bound to have operational consequences. The unintended consequence of all this could be some kind of operational failure."


Read more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/11/25/narmy125.xml
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 07:47 PM
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1. I blame this all on Commander AWOL
Edited on Sun Nov-25-07 07:52 PM by SpiralHawk
And his bumbling, malfeasant, corrupt, ill-intentioned world "leadership."

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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 07:48 PM
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2. Whoa, is Admiral Boyce a genius, or what?
No equipment, no training, and no fully manned battalions, according to Boyce. This "could" lead to "some kind of" operational failure. Tell Sherlock Holmes to move out of his Baker Street digs; there's a new deductive genius in town!
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 08:08 AM
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3. Wouldn't it be wonderful if the whole world could just own more guns?
What else should the world's money be best spent on but more guns?
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nestman21 Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 10:53 AM
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4. ...
wowie
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billy173 Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 01:47 PM
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5. poor planning on their part
You mean to tell me they are out of guns and ammo???

Opps I forgot its Britan, they can get ammo from us in theater, as always.

Someone should be kicked in the nuts for this.

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BornagainDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 01:56 PM
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6. Oh, bullshit! The surge is working.
Edited on Mon Nov-26-07 01:56 PM by BornagainDUer
I even heard Turdblossom (Rove)say as much on the tube the other day.

Now don't parse this and say he wasn't talking about Afghanistan. It's all the same; this war on terror thingy.
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