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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:25 PM
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Gore Beats Bush as Bali Talks Embrace Nobel Winner's Agenda
Source: Bloomberg.com

Seven years after he lost the U.S. election, Al Gore has more influence on U.S. global warming policy than the man who defeated him, President George W. Bush.

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Shadow U.S. Delegation

Anticipating the post-Bush diplomatic era, a shadow delegation of American business and political leaders will advocate mandatory limits. The conference opening today and running two weeks is intended to help set the stage for more than two years of negotiations on a treaty that would replace the emissions-limiting Kyoto Protocol when it expires in 2012. Bush walked away from the Kyoto accord in 2001 without offering an alternative.

The unofficial U.S. group in Bali will include the former Vice President Gore, winner of the Nobel Peace Prize for his work on climate change, and Democratic Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts, whom Bush defeated for re-election in 2004. Republican California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, who favors limits and the trading of carbon-emission credits, may also attend.

``Clearly, the U.S. position is much more advanced than the White House position,'' says economist Jeffrey Sachs, director of the Earth Institute at Columbia University in New York and a special adviser to the UN. ``They are there in case the White House really does try to pull a fast one because there's so little trust.''

Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aBARyx.q9pm4



Will be interesting to see what Mr Gore decides to do after his .
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:30 PM
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1. Al Gore. Nobel Lecture 10 December 2007 - webcast
Edited on Tue Dec-04-07 03:31 PM by understandinglife
The Nobel Lectures in Peace will be held on December 10, 1:00 p.m. (CET) at the Oslo City Hall in Norway (attendance by invitation only). At the time of the lectures, a transcript will be published here, and a live video broadcast of the lectures will be available on this website. The lectures will also be available as video on-demand a few days later.

http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/2007/gore-lecture.html
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 03:53 PM
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2. OUCH! Look how they're talking about the White House now.
"They are there in case the White House really does try to pull A FAST ONE..." AND "...BECAUSE THERE'S SO LITTLE TRUST."

Man! Chickens are coming home to ROOST!!!

Even fawning Norah O'Donnell and the equally fawning Andrea Mitchell were on the air on MSNBC together, openly questioning the timeline of bush statements on Iran's being a nuclear threat and the reality and speaking openly about how the bush adminstration doesn't have any credibility. Well, well, well.

VERY satisfying! But we sure could save the air fare if Al was going as Our President.
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lazyriver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 04:15 PM
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3. Al Gore is a hero. Period.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 04:20 PM
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4. I think it should be interesting regarding what we decide to do...
But yeah, he's only doing this to be coy too. :eyes:
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 04:34 PM
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9. Al Gore is already a winner
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 04:24 PM
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5. Yes indeedy. Very interesting
Should be a fascinating forum. Looking forward to the aftermath. Hope springs eternal. K&R
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 04:32 PM
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8. Yes, looking forward to more people becoming active in addressing this crisis
And demanding action from all candidates.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 04:29 PM
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6. Yeah? Gore beat him the first time too.
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Demoiselle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 05:41 PM
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11. I was gonna make that point. Bush DID NOT BEAT Gore in 2000. Grrrrrrr.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 05:48 PM
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13. I was just having a discussion
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 04:30 PM
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7. This link doesn't announce the Dec 19 date
Do you have one?
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 05:10 PM
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10. recommend
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 05:45 PM
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12. Thank god.
We can't wait another year for a sane policy.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 05:51 PM
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14. This was Gore's path..
even if he did win the White HOuse in 2000, he was meant to be at this point today. After all the years of being grinded by the m$$$$m it must be very gratifying to realize your dream of being heard on our Environment. I know it is for me.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 08:27 PM
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15. I fear darker things were in the works...
Think about it... were Gore rightfully sworn in, we would have likely had "President Lieberman" within months.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 09:51 PM
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16. Go Gore Go!!!...Faster than the speed of light!!than a plane..than a speeding
Edited on Tue Dec-04-07 09:51 PM by goforit
bullet.
Super Gore to the rescue!!!

(how I pray)
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 11:02 PM
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18. Truth, Justice, and the American Way! Up, up, and awaaaaay...
"Faster than a speeding bullet.
More powerful than a locomotive.
Able to leap tall buildings in a single bound.

Look! Up in the sky!
It's a bird. It's a plane. It's Superman!

Yes, it's Superman - strange visitor from another planet who came to Earth with powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal men. Superman - who can change the course of mighty rivers, bend steel with his bare hands, and who, disguised as Clark Kent, mild mannered reporter for a great metropolitan newspaper, fights the never ending battle for Truth, Justice and the American Way."
http://www.fiftiesweb.com/superman.htm

I always loved that intro. I think it affected a lot of us in our belief that there really is such a thing as "truth, justice, and the American Way," and that they are inextricably linked.

Mild-mannered Mr. Gore is but a mortal from our very own planet, but he sure does continue to fight the good fight. It is fabulous to see him get the good recognition he so richly deserves.

Hekate


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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 03:24 AM
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20. I agree that the Superman intro influenced
many boomers. Something about 'catapulting the propaganda?' I also think those old westerns influenced many of us w/ a sense of justice. How the good sheriff was always able to stand up to the drunken lynch mob and talk them down. I know I can trace my sense of what is right and just to those old movies. I was a big Hopalong Cassidy fan. His stories often dealt with justice problems.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 10:54 PM
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17. Gore is better than bush in every way
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-04-07 11:08 PM
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19. And, Al Gore is emerging as a 21st Century leader, globally ....
... no surprise ...

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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 02:07 PM
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21. Gore should be elected to the Secretary General of the UN
Edited on Wed Dec-05-07 02:08 PM by samsingh
that would make him President or leader of the world
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entanglement Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 06:31 PM
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22. "The U.S. position is much more advanced than the White House position"...
:spray:
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