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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 08:24 PM
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Visitor Logs Can Be Kept Secret, for Now
Source: AP

WASHINGTON (AP) — A federal judge agreed Friday to let the Bush administration keep secret the lists of visitors to the White House until an appeals court decides whether the documents are public records.

U.S. District Judge Royce C. Lamberth granted the White House request five days after ordering the Secret Service to turn over the records to a liberal watchdog group that sought them under the Freedom of Information Act.

The logs being sought by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington relate to White House visits regarding nine conservative religious commentators, including James Dobson, Gary Bauer and the late Rev. Jerry Falwell.

Visitor records are created by the Secret Service, which is subject to the Freedom of Information Act. The Bush administration ordered the data be turned over to the White House, where it is treated as presidential records outside the scope of the public records law.

Read more: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5huwECNWFJHbvOgIgWHReW7Dfq9BwD8TM4SM00



What and who are they hiding?
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 08:27 PM
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1. I don't know but they're hiding somebody or some bodies
I'm afraid they're slowly destroying every piece of information.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 08:34 PM
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3. Slowly destroying? That fire in cheney's office the other day is just a start.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 08:30 PM
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2. Royce Lamberth. Oh, there's a shock.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 08:37 PM
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4. They'll just keep stringing this out with appeals until they're
finally gone.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 08:44 PM
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5. Jack Abramoff, Jack Abramoff, Jack Abramoff, Jack Abramoff, Jack Abramoff, Jack Abramoff,
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dmosh42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 05:21 AM
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13. Yes, number one on the hit parade! n/t
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 10:13 AM
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18. Jeff "Bulldog" Gannon too. eom
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benld74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 08:46 PM
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6. I gotta give the GOP credit for something,,
they know how to use the law that exists in their favor, no matter what. They can bend the rules by using existing appeals laws
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 08:55 PM
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7. since when has secracy ever been good??
granted military secracy is important but besides not wanting to give your position away from the enemy what else is it used for except for hiding wrong doing? Well if you look at it from the white house POV i guess it is military secracy and the american people are the enemy.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 09:07 PM
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8. Most frequent visition to the Bush White House?
I'd bet a sack of doughnuts it is the official republicon male prostitute Jeff "Draft Dodger" Gannon...yet another republicon chickenhawk sex deviant.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 10:09 PM
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11. AKA...JeffJamesJohnney GannonGuckertGosh..jonny Gosh was kidnapped at 11 and is thought to be a sex
Edited on Fri Dec-21-07 10:27 PM by sam sarrha
slave in the Boy's Town Child prostitution ring.. during Dubya's fathers Vice President days... which was revealed when 2 "VERY"young boys from Boy's Town were found wandering the halls of the white house during one of Reagan's parties very late at night

http://www.francesfarmersrevenge.com/stuff/archive/oldnews2/boystown/

http://www.onlinejournal.org/Media/021805Madsen/021805madsen.html

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20Government/boys_town_abuse.htm

http://www.politicalfriendster.com/showPerson.php?id=4857&name=Boystown-Franklin-Scandall-

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=boys+town+prostution+ring&btnG=Google+Search
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 10:16 AM
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19. I just mentioned Bulldog above, before seeing that you mentioned him here.
I'd love to know how many visits he's made.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 11:14 AM
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21. According to the official Secret Service records, male prostitute Jeff Gannon
made about 100 visits to the George AWOL Bush White House, some of those visits apparently overnight.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 09:43 PM
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9. they have never before been secret, they were public domain before that ruling
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 09:57 PM
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10. Abramof and duke used a contractor to launder $250,000 dollars from Chaney's office fund, to buy
the sail boat Duke randy duke lived on for free. Chaney allegedly bought office furniture for his offices... from the small time contractor, who cashed the check and got a cashier's check for $250,000 which was used to buy the sail boat 4 days after Chaney wrote it. maybe they want to see if the furniture was ever delivered

if this is the sinerio... Chaney will have a medical emergency and resign very soon
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-21-07 11:36 PM
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12. Of course.
The obstruction continues. How's that table looking, Pelosi? Nothing but Ben Franklins on your table, huh?
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 06:42 AM
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14. As a national park - and the WH is a national park.....
Edited on Sat Dec-22-07 06:44 AM by Solly Mack
Aren't the logs just as much the people's business and concern as any upkeep, selling off of, or damage to our national...ah..treasures? (Silly me,I know - but.. )

But couldn't there exist some rule/regulation within the law(s) regarding funding for national parks that prevents such secrecy? Sometimes, you get the guilty through other means...and not necessarily the most obvious....sometimes you got to dig deep for that seldom remembered law that brings a person down.

The lawns, themselves, around the WH , are also considered a national park.


"Greater Washington National Parks in D.C....which falls under the National Park Foundation,the Congressionally-chartered nonprofit partner of America’s National Parks."


Greater Washington National Parks in D.C. - number 27 (map) on the list is the White House.

"The Greater Washington National Parks Fund (GWNPF) was created to strengthen the enduring connection between the American people and the National Parks of the Greater Washington Area."

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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 08:43 AM
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15. Smells like a Friday news dump
Newspapers should start applying for Superfund site status.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 09:20 AM
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16. Waldo too!
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 09:49 AM
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17. Clinton's visitor logs were turned over to Congress.
This double standard is beyond outrageous. Although not as outrageous as the filibuster ds.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 10:18 AM
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20. And remember the uproar about Clinton renting out the Lincoln bedroom?
And now we can't even see who enters our house, much less who spends the night. :mad:

The republickers are above the law.


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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 07:01 PM
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22.  I doubt there's anything shocking
except for the number of times Jack Abramoff visited. Maybe that's what they're covering up.
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-22-07 10:04 PM
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23. Didn't they all burn up in that recent fire...
hmmm maybe only Cheney's logs managed to burn... now wouldn't that be interesting.
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-23-07 10:28 PM
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24. BS ruling... n/t
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-24-07 09:58 AM
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25. aka they are secret until after moron* moves to paraguay. nt
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