Billionaire Soros Says Bush Must Not Be Re-Elected

[joshcryer]

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Billionaire fund manager George Soros, who plans to spend millions of dollars to try to prevent George W. Bush from being re-elected in November, said on Monday the U.S. president was pursuing an undesirable dream of American supremacy.

Source: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040112/pl_nm/campaign_soros_dc_3

[are_we_united_yet]

1. George

meet George

[LTR]

2. A question about Soros

I know that he used to be connected with Carlyle Group. Why the change of heart?

Not that I'm complaining.

[kalian]

4. He's just another "player"...

he might be considered "liberal" but I am weary of people with too
much money that can play around with our destiny...

[joshcryer]

5. He's just a businessman.

And he feels Bush is bad for business.

Don't see a problem with that.

[chookie]

7. It's bigger than that -- much bigger

He's not "just a business man." -- he is a billionaire financier. But more fundamentally -- and why he has been passionately involved in this, is that he is a Capitalist. He thinks its the best system there is. What he fears is that the "free-market fundamentalists" (his term) have hijacked the American economy, and have not only undermined it, but threaten its very existence. Economic and political stability of the globe is at stake.

No one can say of George Soros -- "If you're so smart, why ain't you rich?" :-)

He's been tackling the big questions about the economic sustainability of our country and world markets for years.

Any smart Democratic candidate should be eying him for the Secretary of the Treasury position.

[hang a left]

14. He is one of "them"

This was discussed at length a couple of months ago. I tried to go back and search but the site won't let me. Where is Tinoire?

[hang a left]

16. AHA! Here is a little something for everyone to think about

George Soros owned a third of Harken after Harken purchased Soros Oil, which happened after Arbusto was bailed out by Spectrum 7, which Harken later acquired. Harken, of course, had "extensive ties" with BCCI. Worth noting is that, according to Greg Palast, one of Harken's board members, Sheikh Abdullah Bakhsh, accompanied Iran-Contra weapons dealer and middleman Adnan Khashoggi to "...a meeting with Saudi billionaires and Al-Qaeda's financial arm. In essence, Palast claims the Saudis paid protection money to the terrorists."

Soros invested $100 million with the Carlyle Group.

Last December he was tried - and convicted - in a French court for insider trading.

He's financed a lot of members of what research is revealing may be a corporate-controlled "Parallel Left" media.

He sits on the board of the Council on Foreign Relations, which also includes Vin Weber (chairman for the National Endowment for Democracy, which according to the New York Times "...funnelled more than $877,000 into Venezuela opposition groups in the weeks and months before the recently aborted coup attempt..." last year), John Deutch (on the board of Citigroup, Raytheon), Robert E. Rubin (director and chairman of the executive committee of Citigroup, on the board at Ford Motors), and Andrew Young (director for Archer Daniels Midland and the CAPPS-loving Delta), among others.

For a detailed look at Soros, read George Soros: Prophet of an "Open Society". He's not the white knight some of the higher-ups would want us to believe.

[hang a left]

17. And when you are done thinking, chew on this

This is not a case of narcissistic personality disorder; this is how George Soros exercises the authority of United States hegemony in the world today. Soros foundations and financial machinations are partly responsible for the destruction of socialism in Eastern Europe and the former USSR. He has set his sights on China. He was part of the full court press that dismantled Yugoslavia. Calling himself a philanthropist, billionaire George Soros' role is to tighten the ideological stranglehold of globalization and the New World Order while promoting his own financial gain. Soros' commercial and "philanthropic" operations are clandestine, contradictory and coactive. And as far as his economic activities are concerned, by his own admission, he is without conscience; a capitalist who functions with absolute amorality.

<snip>

George Soros' activities fall into the construct developed in 1983 and enunciated by Allen Weinstein, founder of the National Endowment for Democracy. Weinstein said, "A lot of what we do today was done covertly 25 years ago by the CIA."32 Soros is operating exactly within the confines of the intelligence complex. He is little different from CIA drug runners in Laos in the 1960s, or the mujahedin who profited from the opium trade while carrying out CIA operations against socialist Afghanistan in the 1980s. He simply funnels (and takes home) a whole lot more money than those pawns, and he does much of his business in the light of day. His candor insofar as he expresses it is a sort of spook damage control that serves to legitimize the strategies of U.S. foreign policy.

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http://www.canadiandimension.mb.ca/extra/d1207hc.htm

[Gman]

8. Read "The Crisis Of Global Capitalism"

and you'll see why he sees Bush as such a threat to the world.

[mobuto]

20. No change of heart

Money is simply money - and it has no smell.

Soros wanted to make money so he invested in the Carlyle Group. That doesn't mean he supports President Bush or ever has.

[hang a left]

21. Haven't we had this discussion before, Mobuto?

total destabilization of Indonesia
meltdown of the Asian economy beginning with the collapse of the Thailand baht & quickly spreading to Malaysia, Indonesia, the Philippines, South Korea.

Also the looting of the Russian economy, Ukraine and Belorussia

All of it under the guise of Democracy. I wish I hadbookmarked that recent LBN article about the young Czech kid who burnt himself alive and left a letter thanking us Americans for this "wonderful" democracy we brought to them.

Lasy year he was fined $2m for insider trading by a court in France.

Soros, who has or had business ties with Zbigniew Brzezinski, Henry Kissinger, the Carlyle Group, the CIA's Radio Free Europe, Wesley Clark, Richard Allen and George W. Bush (through Harken Energy), is not a friendly, tree-hugging, progressive out to save the world. He is the fist in a velvet glove to the Neocons' baseball bat across the nose. OCTOBER 20 , 2003 BEYOND BUSH II by Michael C.
Ruppert Peak Oil Dominates http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/102003_beyond_bush_2.html

Here's some more on this wonder hero some Democrats are ready to sell our soul to:

At Human Rights Watch, for example, there is Morton Abramowitz, US assistant secretary of state for intelligence and research from 1985-89, and now a fellow at the interventionist Council on Foreign Relations; ex-ambassador Warren Zimmerman (whose spell in Yugoslavia coincided with the break-up of that country); and Paul Goble, director of communications at the CIA-created Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty (which Soros also funds). Soros's International Crisis Group boasts such "independent" luminaries as the former national security advisers Zbigniew Brzezinski and Richard Allen, as well as General Wesley Clark, once Nato supreme allied commander for Europe. The group's vice-chairman is the former congressman Stephen Solarz, once described as "the Israel lobby's chief legislative tactician on Capitol Hill" and a signatory, along with the likes of Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz, to a notorious letter to President Clinton in 1998 calling for a "comprehensive political and military strategy for bringing down Saddam and his regime".

Take a look also at Soros's business partners. At the Carlyle Group, where he has invested more than $100m, they include the former secretary of state James Baker and the erstwhile defence secretary Frank Carlucci, George Bush Sr and, until recently, the estranged relatives of Osama Bin Laden. Carlyle, one of the world's largest private equity funds, makes most of its money from its work as a defence contractor.

<snip>

So why is he so upset with Bush? The answer is simple. Soros is angry not with Bush's aims—of extending Pax Americana and making the world safe for global capitalists like himself—but with the crass and blundering way Bush is going about it. By making US ambitions so clear, the Bush gang has committed the cardinal sin of giving the game away. For years, Soros and his NGOs have gone about their work extending the boundaries of the "free world" so skilfully that hardly anyone noticed. Now a Texan redneck and a gang of overzealous neo-cons have blown it.

<snip>
As a cultivated and educated man (a degree in philosophy from the London School of Economics, honorary degrees from the Universities of Oxford, Yale, Bologna and Budapest), Soros knows too well that empires perish when they overstep the mark and provoke the formation of counter-alliances. He understands that the Clintonian approach of multilateralism—whereby the US cajoles or bribes but never does anything so crude as to threaten—is the only one that will allow the empire to endure. Bush's policies have led to a divided Europe, Nato in disarray, the genesis of a new Franco-German-Russian alliance and the first meaningful steps towards Arab unity since Nasser.

Soros knows a better way—armed with a few billion dollars, a handful of NGOs and a nod and a wink from the US State Department, it is perfectly possible to topple foreign governments that are bad for business, seize a country's assets, and even to get thanked for your benevolence afterwards. Soros has done it.

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http://www.mindfully.org/WTO/2003/George-Soros-Statesman2jun03.htm

PROFITEERS OF EMPIRE –
CHENEY, SOROS, AND CO.

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Now don't get the wrong idea: the profiteers of globalism are by no means exclusively Republicans. I may have a special animus toward the Republican variety, as I'll readily admit, but the Cheney-Halliburton connection is small potatoes compared to some of the big boys, like George Soros. While Halliburton's subsidiary, the engineering firm of Brown and Root, has the contract for building the extensive infrastructure required by US troops in the Balkans, Soros has set himself up as the official banker and chief investor of the region – under US government auspices and with US taxpayers money. Soros Fund Management LLC is investing $50 million in a project to aid business expansion while the US Overseas Private Investment Corporation (OPIC) – an agency of the federal government – will put up another $100 million in "loan guarantees." At an official ceremony inaugurating the program, Soros declared ``Of all the people present, I'm the most nervous, because I actually have to deliver.''


DELIVER US FROM EVIL
But it was NATO that delivered first. Soros was a key figure in the propaganda campaign leading up to the Kosovo war, first through his financing of the American Committee to Save Bosnia and a whole bevy of groups, many of them militant Muslims, preaching intervention in the Balkans on behalf of "human rights" The Soros propaganda machine ceaselessly agitated for war with Serbia, and when it came he and his pet "human rights" activists applauded the longest and the loudest. Now that NATO has come through, Soros must "deliver" – that is, create profits for himself and his investors. While known as a philanthropist, if a highly eccentric one, Soros emphasized that his fund would practice "tough love" and, in the words of the Bloomberg News report, "be driven purely by profit." To the victor goes the spoils.

THE PROPHET MOTIVE
But all of us are driven by profit, even the ascetic Ralph Nader and the hermits who mortify the flesh and live out in the desert – for there is such a thing as a purely psychic profit, that is a value that is not monetary but which exists in our minds nonetheless: religion, obligation, love, revenge, or any number of other purely human motives, both sacred and profane. Through his Open Society Institute (OSI), which has insinuated itself into academia, government, and every level of public discourse, Soros has poured his fantastic wealth into causes as various as cheerleading US intervention in the Balkans, funding Arianna Huffington's three-ring "Shadow Convention," and calling for drug decriminalization – and he reaps his psychic profit, i.e. the personal satisfaction of seeing his ideas take root. With branches throughout Europe and Asia, OSI preaches a "free-trade" version of international socialism, a universalist creed hostile to the idea of national sovereignty. He for some reason is particularly concerned with the problem of how to manage international monetary institutions via a single centralized authority, a world central bank run by global economic planners. In spite of the fact that he made his fortune as a speculator who famously broke the Bank of England, Soros has denounced laissez-faire in a very boring book, and has also called for international regulation that would prohibit the very activities that have made him one of the richest men on earth.

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http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j073100.html
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More on Bushladen Carlyle Group:
George Soros & James Baker are part of the Family


The first Bushladen article can be found at:
http://emperors-clothes.com/news/bushladen.htm

Baltimore Chronicle
http://www.baltimorechronicle.com/media3_oct01.shtml

Soros...And people jumping up for joy... I hate to piss on a parade but Good-bye Democratic Party. Sold to the highest bidder. The neo-cons will have won.

Soros's actions with Harken and Kanputun Oil, The Carlyle Group, and the Quantum Fund --- quite interesting reads... Should horrify any DUer.

[mobuto]

24. Oh no, not Wesley Clark!

Next you'll be announcing that Soros has had business ties with {{gasp}} Bill Clinton's foundation, run by that evil no-good former President.

And not only does Soros have ties with evil evil people, he is also the guy who's forcing young Czechs to set themselves on fire! Is he planning a third defenestration of Prague as well?

And he has such hubris, he cavorts openly with Human Rights Watch and other reactionary tools of the Bourgeois yoke!

And why? Because he believes in a liberal, open society that guarantees the greatest freedom possible to the greatest number of people. Such perfidy!

[hang a left]

26. Had to run an errand, but I am back, Bwahahahaha

It was the day before Russia's parliamentary election campaign began that masked gunmen burst into the Moscow office of George Soros's Open Society Institute and carried away documents and computers belonging to the democracy-building organization.

The incident last week, coming on the heels of the imprisonment of billionaire tycoon Mikhail Khodorkovsky, raised yet another outcry in the West about the political direction the country is taking.

Foreign Russia-watchers saw the raid as an attack on Mr. Soros, who had poured more than $1-billion (U.S.) into building civil society in Russia during the past decade, and as yet more proof that the country is drifting back toward authoritarianism under President Vladimir Putin.

<snip>

As the parliamentary election campaign begins, Mr. Putin's popularity in Russia remains unassailable, and both his personal approval rating and support for the pro-Putin United Russia party have gone up since the Khodorkovsky affair began.

Most ordinary Russians harbour a deep dislike for Mr. Khodorkovsky and the other so-called "oligarchs," the handful of men who became super rich by snapping up state assets during a sell-off in the early 1990s. "We are not afraid of the old times, because then we had free hospitals, free schools, free summer camps for children. We lived well, better than this," said Tatiana Sablina, a 40-year-old selling her nephew's artwork on the Arbat, Moscow's historic pedestrian mall.


http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20031115.wputin1115/BNStory/Front/

Soros Foundation attacked again

Saturday 15 November 2003, 6:23 Makka Time, 3:23 GMT

<snip>

Friday's attack was the second such raid in barely a week against US billionnaire George Soros' charity's headquarters, police said.

<snip>

The campaign against Yukos is seen as a Kremlin warning to big business to stay out of politics, and a bid to restore state control over the nation's energy resources.

<snip>

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/541389F8-1058-4673-93E0-F71086A298AE.htm

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George Soros, the richest of the liberal philanthropists, has publicly declared that his good work on behalf of building "open societies" worldwide is at risk because of George W. Bush's assaults on an open society at home. So Soros will spend about $100 million trying to oust Bush.

<snip>
http://www.prospect.org/webfeatures/2003/11/kuttner-r-11-13.html

Investor firm puts off Russian deal
Bloomberg News Thursday, November 6, 2003
Carlyle Group, a Washington-based private equities firm, has put off plans to start a Russian buyout fund after Mikhail Khodorkovsky became the company's second adviser in the country to be jailed, its potential partner said.
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Carlyle planned to start a fund with the Moscow-based Alfa Group. "Talks are on hold," Mark Bond, a managing director of Alfa Group's private equity unit, said by telephone. "The events of the last two weeks haven't helped." A Carlyle partner, Christopher Finn, declined to comment.
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Carlyle has a close business relationship with Khodorkovsky, the 40-year-old chief of the oil giant Yukos who was arrested on Oct. 25 on suspicion of fraud and tax evasion. Platon Lebedev, a Carlyle advisor and the chairman of Group Menatep, a Yukos holding company, was arrested in July on similar accusations. Both deny the allegations.
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Carlyle, which manages $16.4 billion, appoints senior political and business figures to help raise funds and identify takeover targets. Former U.S. President George H.W. Bush retired as a Carlyle adviser last month.
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Bond at Alfa said talks with Carlyle had also stalled because the American firm was less about entering into a joint venture. Carlyle operates its own buyout and real estate funds in America, Europe and Asia, though it has a joint venture with Riverstone Holdings to operate a $222 million energy and power fund. Khodorkovsky is an adviser to the energy and power fund, according to Carlyle's 2002 annual report. Lebedev is an adviser to Carlyle's European operations, which are headed by former Prime Minister John Major of Britain.
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<snip>

http://www.iht.com/articles/116501.html


Putin does have something to be nervous about. His trip to Europe has failed. In Europe Russian president was given a cold reception and he was told straightforward that his policies concerning Chechnya and Russian business are unacceptable. Massive anti-Putin campaign started in the world’s press and was provoked by the arrest of Russian tycoon Khodorkovsky. Another warplane crash, and finally the refusal to extradite Zakayev, which the Kremlin regarded as betrayal of the British-Russian friendship.

Putin’s chief spokesman of anti-Chechen propaganda Sergei Yastrzhembsky announced Putin’s offence:

«British justice has a strange and, speaking frankly, slightly selective approach to fairness», Yastrzhembsky complained.

<snip>
As far as the culprit of Putin’s rage goes, he left the courtroom as a sort of a symbol of Moscow’s most disgraceful failure to impose its totally cheeky thesis that Russia is allegedly fighting against some «international terrorism» in Chechnya.

<snip>

http://kavkazcenter.com/eng/article.php?id=1959


Houston executives question future of Russian energy deals

Stunning political developments in Russia last week could threaten millions of dollars of oil deal negotiations between Russian and U.S. companies, including companies in Houston, say two local experts who spend much of their time in Russia.

Economides said in a phone interview from Moscow that many people in Russia believe the government has "effectively re-nationalized Russia's largest oil company."

<snip>

He believes the timing of the arrest and the stock seizure was significant, coming as Yukos was believed to be nearing a merger deal with ExxonMobil.

"They were negotiating furiously here until this happened. This was a preemptive move by the government," Economides says. "They wouldn't dare go after properties owned by a big U.S. multinational company."

<snip>

Now, Stinemetz says, Khodorkovsky has let it be known that he wants to run for president and has started backing opposition political parties. (( Just like in the US!))

<snip>

Russian oil production could reach 12 million barrels a day by the end of the decade, and in the next two to five years Russian oil exports to the U.S. could begin to displace Middle East oil, according to a recent report by Wood Mackenzie Inc., a global energy research firm.

<snip>

http://houston.bizjournals.com/houston/stories/2003/11/10/story6.html
http://houston.bizjournals.com/houston/stories/2003/11/10/story6.html?page=2

[mobuto]

27. Are you saying you support Putin?

Soros, in pushing for an open, liberal society has certainly run up against authoritarian Putin on one side, and the anarchic oligarchs on the other. Just as your articles indicate.

I'm sorry, how does that make him less qualified to help defeat Bush in November?

By the way, why on earth did you cite an article from Kavkaz? Are Chechen Jihadis really the most reliable sources for news? After all this is an outfit that calls for terrorist attacks on Russian civilians on its home page....

[WealthAndDemocracy]

3. "Soros and others will spend up to $400 million on issue advertisements. "

That's encouraging. That's the first I've seen just how much Soros et contributors were going to put in to their campaign against Bush

[pacifictiger]

6. Soros grew up under a dictatorship

so he knows how to recognize the danger signs. The stock market has been good to him since he came to American and he wants to give back to the country as well as find ways to promote global harmony. His actions seem to embody capitalism at its best - make money so it can be used to benefit the greater community as a whole rather than for selfish interests. I saw him interviewed by Bill Moyers earlier last year and he really impressed me.

[Rabrrrrrr]

9. Yay!

The more people who untypically come out against that assmunch waste, the better (by untypical, I mean, in this case, a billionaire, whom people would normally assume would be republican; or military people, as in Clark; etc.)

Every one of them who comes out puts at least one more nail in the lies of the republican/rightwing machine that says "All military are republican!" or the unfortunately liberal lie that all capitalists are power-hungry republicans.

I like Soros. And Ted Turner. :-)

[SoCalDem]

10. As much as I look forward to his "help", it may be too little, too late

He has had money for a long time now, and has, no doubt, watched from the sidelines as the last legally elected president was demonized and harassed for YEARS, and yet he did nothing..

If he thinks this is about "Little Dubya", he is mistaken.. It's about unraveling the fabric of the whole country.. A few bucks thrown in as advertising (which really only feeds the "beast"), he is going to be surprised..

Nothing in politics happens by accident.. The repubes have been "designing" this domination for decades.. A guy on a white horse, with saddlebags full of money, will not make a difference..

The repubes were methodical and thorough.. They started with weakening unions, and grabbing hold of the media.. Reagan was their stooge, and a lot of their plan was implemented during his "tenure".. I am one of the few who actually thinks his Alzheimer's was well underway during his presidency, and it was to their benefit..

Hate radio set the stage by pounding the mantra home to the masses for HOURS and HOURS at a time..and they did it DAILY.. How else could poor and middle class actually come to believe that government services are "hurtful" to them, and that the only people who should control the money supply, are the rich people?? Average people have been led to believe that they pay too much in taxes, when in actuality, they pay too little.. It costs money to run a country, and taxes are the way governments are financed.. There is bound to be waste, but why is it that the country seems fixated on the "welfare queen" image, when the massive fraud is NOT in that area at all..

Repubes worked their grassroots for years, while democrats slumbered.. They were content to win school board races, city council races, etc.. They flooded into the lower level elected positions, because that's what they were after..POSITION.. They bided their time, and at some point, they were ready to move up the political ladder.. It only seems like they "came out of the woodwork".. They did not.. They have been patiently working their way around us, through us, and over us..

They coalesced behind their patron saint RR, who made them believe that they only way they could take over , was by unity.. They believed him, and it paid off..

Guys like Soros have had money for a long time, and they could have helped ages ago, when it would have really mattered.. I am afraid that at this late date, there is little that he can do..

Can he stop the BBV-ification of our polling places?
Can he get us parity on the airwaves??
Can he get the press to report on *'s failings?
Can he get the democrats to unify?
Can he change the brainwashed minds of people in a few months? (They have been brainwashed for a generation plus)

I am thankful that someone finally stepped up to the plate, but I have no false illusions..

Mellon-Scaife & the gang has been at this for decades, and they have fine tuned the system.. I doubt that they are shaking in their boots..

Another thing that irritates me is that whenever "our team" plans something, they feel the need to climb to the nearest rooftop, and announce it..

JUST DO IT, DAMMIT..don't go on blabbing about what you plan to do..

[schultzee]

12. Hey, with our $100.00's many of us and his big bucks we can make

a difference! Lots of us.

[bearfan454]

19. Superb post !

You are very smart.

[patricia92243]

11. Anybody know what Soros had to say about the O'Neill book?

[Maddy McCall]

18. Soros on O'Neill--"a breath of fresh air"

Soros characterized some members of the Bush administration, including Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Attorney General John Ashcroft, as having "an exaggerated view of their own righteousness."

Bush's willingness to exert U.S. military power existed prior to the Sept. 11 attacks, which only served to enforce that tendency, Soros said. His solution, Soros said, is for the Bush administration to live by the rules it seeks to impose on the rest of the world.

Soros said he liked former treasury secretary Paul O'Neill, though he thought the ex-Alcoa chairman "was not terribly well qualified" for the Cabinet post.

The bigger problem at the Treasury Department, he said, was its neglect of responsibilities in regards to the international financial system. Soros added that he felt O'Neill, whose blunt and open style sometimes grated other members of the administration, was a breath of fresh air.

http://www.post-gazette.com/businessnews/20030228sorosbp4.asp

[dusty64]

13. I'd like to see

him help us get a free media back also. That should be a huge priority after we kick the squatters outta Washington. Isn't it interesting the bellyaching over his support by the extreme right, does anyone remember coverage of their billionaire sponsor that starts with an S? I didn't think so.

[rman]

15. couldn't he just bribe the mainstream media's talking heads,

to get 'm to tell the truth, to tell the important things and not the unimportant things?

[Petrodollar Warfare]

22. Links to Soros book and his recent article in 'The Atlantic '

Soros is actually good man, and I enjoyed reading his latest book...(which came out last month- highly recommended)

'The Bubble of American Supremacy: Correcting the Misuse of American Power'
by George Soros

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1586482173/qid=1074012551//ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i0_xgl14/104-8923549-8111137?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

..and here's his recent peice that illustrates the 2004 election will be unusual in a very serious way - as Soros reflects, it will literally be a matter of life and death for a lot of people...

'The Bubble of American Supremacy'

A prominent financier argues that the heedless assertion of American power in the world resembles a financial bubble—and the moment of truth may be here

http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2003/12/soros.htm

[hang a left]

23. And a couple of links for you

http://www.mindfully.org/WTO/2003/George-Soros-Statesman2jun03.htm

http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j073100.html

[On the Road]

25. Can Anyone Here Take "Yes" for an Answer?

Soros' initiative against Bush is great, great news!

It's not only a matter of the money. Someone of his stature who is this strongly against Bush changes the entire playing field, especially with a former like Paul O'Neil going on record against Bush.

It's no longer a case of the business community being solidly behind Bush. It's split. Businessmen tend to be trend followers -- they talk to their peers, their consultants, or read Business Week to find out what the "line" on this or that issue is. Soros throws a monkey wrench into that process.

Day traders and currency speculators "surf Soros" when they can find out what he's up to. Maybe a few people will start surfing Soros in the political arena.