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Leo 9 Donating Member (560 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:52 PM
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Bhutto said Musharraf failed to protect her: e-mail
Source: THE TIMES OF INDIA

Bhutto said Musharraf failed to protect her: e-mail
28 Dec 2007, 0545 hrs IST,AFP


WASHINGTON: Pakistani opposition leader Benazir Bhutto blamed President Pervez Musharraf for failing to protect her in the volatile months preceding her assassination, an email released by US media on Thursday showed.

If harmed in Pakistan, "I would hold Musharraf responsible," Bhutto wrote in the October email, revealed on air by CNN journalist Wolf Blitzer, who received it from Bhutto's friend and US spokesman Mark Siegel.

"I have been made to feel insecure by his minions," Bhutto wrote of Musharraf, detailing security measures which she said were not granted her after her return to the volatile country.

"There is no way what is happening in terms of stopping me from taking private cars or using tinted windows or giving jammers or four police mobiles to cover all sides could happen without him."

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Read more: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Bhutto_said_Musharraf_failed_to_protect_her_e-mail/articleshow/2656940.cms
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:01 PM
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1. I saw that on Keith.
Reminded me of Harvey Milk's recorded message.

She KNEW she might be killed.
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Leo 9 Donating Member (560 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:25 PM
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3. Me too.
This was the first newspaper to mention it.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:16 PM
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2. Big surprise...
...Musharraf fails to provide protection to Bhutto, Bhutto gets killed by (possibly) Muslim extremists, Musharraf gets to hold on to power with full U.S. support because, after all, it's a choice between him and the Muslim extremists.

This is really the most obvious case of LIHOP in the past six years...if it wasn't MIHOP instead.

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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:48 PM
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4. MILHOP LIHOP ?
Edited on Thu Dec-27-07 09:51 PM by ohio2007
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/12/27/bhutto.photographer/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

You don't think she even came close to tempting fate every week ? How many times were bombers stopped in the past several months?

She controlled her destiny. She controlled her fate....... SLIHOP



http://www.parade.com/benazir_bhutto_interview.html

She let it happen.

eom

on edit;

even the Pope learned his lesson and had the "Pope mobile"with bullet proof glass put in place as an insurance policy after a run in with a muslim fanatic in his own front yard.
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Blue Fire Donating Member (588 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 10:01 PM
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6. A very credible concept.
It always seems people in this part of the world hold a very radical view of life and sacrifice. Perhaps she thought her ultimate sacrifice would galvanize her followers towards open revolution?
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 10:24 PM
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7. Ya she should've just stayed in exile right?
Edited on Thu Dec-27-07 10:25 PM by FlyingSquirrel
And just lived out her years on the beach somewhere while her people lived in a dictatorship

Besides... guess who else knew he was going to be killed?

Jesus

but I guess if he willingly becomes a martyr for his cause that's something admirable and one shouldn't attack him for it, whereas if someone else does it that's another story.

Not that I agree with your assessment, since she DID complain about the lack of security measures which were DENIED her. But if your assessment were true, your apparent disdain for her sacrifice does not follow.
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crickets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 04:07 AM
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9. Thank you.
But if your assessment were true, your apparent disdain for her sacrifice does not follow.

That sentence bears repeating. I think that anyone in her position would be well aware, not only of the dangers she faced, but that she potentially could do much more alive than dead. The "oh, she was asking for it" attitude above was uncalled for.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:48 PM
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5. No Surprise There. n/t
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 11:39 PM
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8. So there was another attempt in October - which they failed to investigate???
Hmmm...I wonder why?
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 07:22 AM
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10. Blitzer Was Sent Email To Be Read Only In The Event Bhutto Was Assassinated
Source: TV Newser

CNN's Wolf Blitzer spent much of the first 16 minutes of today's Situation Room talking with Mark Siegel, Benazir Bhutto's longtime friend and spokesperson in the U.S. In October she sent an email (below) to Siegel. Siegel then sent it on to Blitzer on the condition it only be read in the event Bhutto was killed. In introducing the segment Blitzer said, "Only now can I reveal to you what I know. This is a story she wanted me to tell the world on her behalf if she were killed." The story, as detailed in the email, is that Pres. Pervez Musharraf was behind her assassination.





Read more: http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ (Scroll down.)
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 07:22 AM
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11. So wolfie and Bhutto were such close friends eh ?
media whore's are street walking
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 07:22 AM
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15. What's your objection, exactly? The email was too familiar? The arangement was improper?
Or something else?

Thx.
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 07:22 AM
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17. Mark Siegel, Benazir Bhutto's longtime friend n/t
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 07:22 AM
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12. Screw Wolf Blitzer...when he was interviewing Bhutto's friend
he basically blamed Bhutto for her own death because she stood up in the car.


Rat bastard.
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 07:22 AM
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13. How is that? Certainly, her standing up through the sunroof was a mistake. Is that what he said?
Of course ultimately her death is the fault of the shooter, but there's no reason people can't mention the things that contributed to making the shooters job easier.

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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 07:22 AM
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16. Ya no kiddin. JFK was asking for it too. And Reagan, what was he
thinking actually waving to people before getting into his limo.
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 07:22 AM
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18. For sure, in hindsight, JFK in an open car was a security mistake.
It's a bit ignorant of you to say he was "asking" to be killed though. Show some respect lad.
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 07:22 AM
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19. He just forgot the
:sarcasm:
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 07:22 AM
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20. Gee, thanks for pointing that out to me.
:evilgrin:
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 07:22 AM
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22. The bubble top wasn't bullet-proof
- just protection from the weather, though there was a chance a bullet could be deflected.
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mallard Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 07:23 AM
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30. How convenient ... and she couldn't even spell 'would'
Authenticity doubtful; friend questionable - intent to blame Musharaf and leave a huge power vacuum in Pakistan noted.

Even if she saw it coming mean she knew who would pay for the hit. This is not something likely to help the blamed President.

Bogus blame factor - once again!
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 07:22 AM
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14. ..........
"This is a story she wanted me to tell the world on her behalf if she were killed." The story, as detailed in the email, is that Pres. Pervez Musharraf was behind her assassination."

Gee ya think?
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WileEcoyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 07:22 AM
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21. Almost like she swallowed the "poisoned pill".
Only to wish that JFK had made the same statement prior to his untimely death.
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november3rd Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 07:22 AM
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23. Of course it was Musharraf
He's the don of Pakistan. He's the guy the Saudis and gulf shieks pay off to cover for al Qaeda. He talks, looks tough on terror, but he's double dealing with the radicals in order to stay in power.

He has BushCo totally duped. Now that he gave up his day job as head of the army, he couldn't afford to let Bhutto run against him next month.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 07:22 AM
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24. A chilling post, november -- with the ring of truth. nt
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 07:23 AM
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26. You want chilling? Watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a41ZGhPGR6A

This is an in-depth report, filed last week, on Pakistan's political
situation going in to their upcoming elections. This was before the
assassination, of course.

Quite an eye opener, and puts the assassination in to stark relief....pay
particular attention to the tenor of the very last sentence about
Bhutto's outstanding Interpol warrant. Also note how little of this
you've heard about this on the news.

I don't know about you, but all I've heard is a bunch of crap about how
this assissination is an assault on 'Pakistan's Democracy' and how they're
a 'key ally in the war on terror'.

It looks to me very much like there's nothing close to resembling
democracy there. With 'key allies' like this, who needs enemies?
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 07:22 AM
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25. Why do you say Musharraf has BushCo totally duped?
BushCo know precisely who and what they're wheeling and dealing with in Pakistan. Read about it here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=358&topic_id=4694
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 07:23 AM
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32. I have asked a few Pakistani guys what they think of
Musharaf and they said the same thing, that he is fooling everyone. He knows the U.S. has no other options than to deal with him and give him aid.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 06:55 PM
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33. I don't think he's fooling BushCo at all
They're willing partners -- willing to deal with the devil for their own gain, on both sides. With what we know of Cheney's meddling over there, I don't see how anyone could be convinced otherwise.

Purposely blinkered, yes. But fooled? Not for a moment.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 07:23 AM
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27. of course you are right, it was Musharaf
Initially, I thought the CIA might be setting him up for some sort of screwed-up transfer of power. But then, I saw the Bush statement. Bush, as always is easy to read. He was genuinely shocked. Someone had done something NOT according to script. He called for calm and a continued fight for terrorism but offered not support statement for Musharaf.

The underlying message in Bush's tone and words were... "Musharaf you total bastard, but now we have no alternative..."
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 07:23 AM
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29. According to Biden, he's also giving money WE give him to FIGHT al Qaeda TO
al Qaeda.
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 07:23 AM
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28. This just the beginning - Bush's military thug , Musharraf, reaping billions from our tax dollars...
Edited on Fri Dec-28-07 03:33 AM by GreenTea
kills off the competition - this will go on, as Musharraf will declare total military rule.....

And why does the Bush/Cheney pay so little attention to unstable countries and dictators like Pakistan's Musharraf & North Korea's Kim Jong-il - both of whom already with nuclear weapons, and instead focus on Iraq and Iran? And mostly ignoring Afghanistan and a still free Osama, for the poppy fields in Afghanistan, which have flourished for record profits under BushCo's administration?

Why? Obviously, because Iraq & Iran have OIL! No other reason....These sick, greedy lying, imperialist corporate republican, war for profit fascist are playing the world "game" only for economic gain for themselves, their neo-con friends & corporate campaign contributors!

As Bush, the corporations & the republicans continue bankrupting our economy, and our social structure, while we pay tens of billions of dollars each week to corporations, in Iraq (and soon Iran) for killing & death all for their profits!
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Swagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 07:23 AM
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31. unfortunately.....I couldn't have put it better.
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 07:15 PM
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34. Start A Thread With This Post Please
I just started crying at my office when I read it. It is so succinct and accurate. Still crying. Where are you in North Cali? I am in Sonoma Co we need to have a CA DU meet up soon.
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