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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:53 AM
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Navy tells Bush Iran incident 'serious'
Source: TERENCE HUNT, AP White House Correspondent

2 minutes ago

MANAMA, Bahrain - A naval commander told President Bush on Sunday that he is taking the recent confrontation between Iranian and U.S. Navy forces in the Persian Gulf "deadly seriously."
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White House press secretary Dana Perino said Bush did not raise the showdown in the Hormuz Strait when he spoke with U.S. Vice Adm. Kevin Cosgriff, commander of the U.S. 5th Fleet, which patrols the Gulf. But Perino said Cosgriff told the president that he took it very seriously when an Iranian fleet of high-speed boats charged at and threatened to blow up a three-ship U.S. Navy convoy passing near Iranian waters.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080113/ap_on_re_mi_ea/bush_mideast




Bush want this hard on so bad again ignoring the intelligence reports....Ill be GWB can play drums pretty good...he seems to be using every resource to beat this one...
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wundermaus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:59 AM
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1. background on U.S. Vice Adm. Kevin Cosgriff
Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 02:03 AM by vmaus


Vice Admiral Kevin J. Cosgriff
Commander, U.S. Naval Forces Central Command
Commander, U.S. 5th Fleet
Commander, Combined Maritime Forces
Vice Admiral Kevin J. Cosgriff

Vice Admiral Kevin J. Cosgriff graduated from the U.S. Merchant Marine Academy at Kings Point, N.Y., and began active duty with the Navy directly thereafter. He was among the first to receive a Master of Science in Strategic Intelligence from the Defense Intelligence College. He also earned the Naval War College Foundation Award for Outstanding Performance. He is an alumnus of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology Seminar XXI Program...

more...

Updated: 6 August 2007

http://www.navy.mil/navydata/bios/navybio.asp?bioID=76
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wundermaus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:02 AM
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2. Cheney met with Vice Adm. Cosgriff on May 11, 2007
Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 02:04 AM by vmaus

May 13, 2007

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Release #108-07

Contact Public Affairs
Vice Adm. Cosgriff Briefs Cheney aboard Stennis

From U.S. Naval Forces Central Command/U.S. 5th Fleet Public Affairs

USS JOHN C. STENNIS, At Sea – Vice Adm. Kevin J. Cosgriff, commander, U.S. Naval Forces Central Command (NAVCENT) and commander, U.S. 5th Fleet briefed Vice President Dick Cheney on U.S. and coalition operations in the Middle East May 11 during the vice president’s visit aboard the aircraft carrier USS John C. Stennis (CVN 74), underway in the Arabian Gulf.

Vice President Cheney is currently on a tour of the Middle East to meet with Arab leaders and U.S. servicemen and women.

“You’re doing all that we ask of you, and you’re doing it with skill and with honor,” Cheney told the crew of the Stennis. “With two carrier strike groups in the Gulf, we’re sending clear messages to friends and adversaries alike. We’ll keep the sea lanes open. We’ll stand with our friends in opposing extremism and strategic threats. We'll disrupt attacks on our own forces. We'll continue bringing relief to those who suffer, and delivering justice to the enemies of freedom. And we'll stand with others to prevent Iran from gaining nuclear weapons and dominating this region.”

Cosgriff outlined the challenges and opportunities facing maritime forces in the Middle East.

“I especially wanted the highlight the important contribution that the maritime coalition is making in the region,” Cosgriff said...

more...

http://www.cusnc.navy.mil/articles/2007/108.html
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cullen2382 Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:46 AM
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10. Wait a minute...
I was listening to Democracy Now the other day and thought this whole threat had been exposed as a fraud.

They said the commander of the fifth fleet said they had never felt threatened. The Iranians released their recordings of the communications between them and our ships and it was nothing like what the Pentagon released.

They were speculating that the Pentagon spliced the tape. Have I missed something?
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:03 AM
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3. Doesn't he mean "SERIES!!1!"?
THIS IS H--well you know the rest.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:52 AM
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4. Isn't that poor English? Deadly seriously?
shouldn't it be dead seriously, or deadly serious?

The Navy commanders, sheesh, I tell you. Or did President NCLB say that?
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 09:07 AM
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11. It looks OK to me
He's taking it seriously (describing a verb needs an adverb). How seriously? Deadly seriously (describing an adverb needs another adverb). He could have said 'completely seriously' instead. "Complete seriously" or "taking it completely serious" would both sounds very wrong. It's just that in informal English, "dead serious" has become common. 'Deadly' is more correct.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 10:08 AM
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13. just sounds clunky, like something * would say = mangulation
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7 of 11 Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 03:35 AM
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5. Yeah yea yeah
Next thing you know Bush will be telling us that Iranian boats are building weapons of mass destruction. Been there, Done that Mr "President"
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 03:58 AM
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6. Hey, if they aren't building nukes, bomb them for their jetski attack on aircraftcarriers
Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 04:01 AM by niceypoo
This is right up there with Saddam's elite "can hit anywhere in America in 45 minutes" balsa wood and duct tape weed eater powered drone squadron
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 08:23 AM
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9. AAH Yes --------the Jet ski attack
Really provocative
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 05:21 PM
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19. Jet skis of death
Speedboats of Mass Destruction? It needs a catchy slogan.

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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 04:21 AM
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7. LOL....
Didn't the Navy have a war game of the similar situation many years ago, and Rumsfailed dismissed it as nonsense.........
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:53 PM
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17. Because his team lost the Millennium Challenge 02
Retired Lt. Gen. Paul K. Van Riper demonstrated the vulnerability of our navy in the gulf region.

Interesting, the NY Times dug up and polished the story after the latest fiasco:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/12/washington/12navy.html
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 04:32 AM
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8. This is HUGH!!! Am SERIES!!!
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rockybelt Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 09:30 AM
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12. GULF OF TONKIN, GULF OF TONKIN
GULF OF TONKIN
GULF OF TONKIN
GULF OF TONKIN
GULF OF TONKIN
GULF OF TONKIN
GULF OF TONKIN
GULF OF TONKIN
GULF OF TONKIN
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:55 PM
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16. last week that the NSA released the report confirming the American people were tricked into going to
Remember, it was just last week that the NSA released the report confirming the American people were tricked into going to war with Vietnam by falsifying and attack on our warships in the Gulf of Tonkin.

Vietnam, Iraq, Iran are simply about war for profit - killing and maiming people to make money - that's all.

From: http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hzFIeNFkO1z6p7PHHwx5k_ig11-Q

"Report reveals Vietnam War hoaxes, faked attacks

5 days ago

WASHINGTON (AFP) — ...according to declassified information that also confirmed US officials faked an incident to escalate the war.

The report was released by the National Security Agency, ... in response to a "mandatory declassification" request, the Federation of American Scientists (FAS) said Monday.

...
But he said that probably the "most historically significant feature" of the declassified report was the retelling of the 1964 Gulf of Tonkin incident.

That was a reported North Vietnamese attack on American destroyers that helped lead to president Lyndon Johnson's sharp escalation of American forces in Vietnam.

The author of the report "demonstrates that not only is it not true, as (then US) secretary of defense Robert McNamara told Congress,... but that to the contrary, a review of the classified signals intelligence proves that 'no attack happened that night,'" FAS said in a statement.

"What this study demonstrated is that the available intelligence shows that there was no attack. It's a dramatic reversal of the historical record," Aftergood said.

"There were previous indications of this but this is the first time we have seen the complete study," he said.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:00 PM
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14. Good doggie, have a biscuit. nt
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:58 PM
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15. did the Yahoo-AP article disappear?
The link now goes to "Bush: Iran threatens global security"

I hate when they do that.

here's an alternate link:

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=4126900

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Torn_Scorned_Ignored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 04:10 PM
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18. WTF
White House press secretary Dana Perino said Bush did not raise the showdown in the Hormuz Strait when he spoke with U.S. Vice Adm. Kevin Cosgriff, commander of the U.S. 5th Fleet.

Why didn't he?
Wasn't it the DNI guy (Bush terminology) who came into the Oval Office and said, we've gotten some new intel and Bush didn't ask what it was?

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