Canada, U.S. quietly sign mutual military aid pact

[Andy Canuck]

Source: Ottawa Citizen

Canada, U.S. quietly sign mutual military aid pact


Canada and the U.S. have signed an agreement that paves the way for the militaries from either nation to send troops across each other's borders during an emergency, but some are questioning why the Harper government has kept silent on the deal.

Neither the Canadian government nor the Canadian Forces announced the new agreement, which was signed Feb. 14 in Texas.

The U.S. military's Northern Command, however, publicized the agreement with a statement outlining how its top officer, Gen. Gene Renuart, and Canadian Lt.-Gen. Marc Dumais, head of Canada Command, signed the plan, which allows the military from one nation to support the armed forces of the other nation during a civil emergency.

The new agreement has been greeted with suspicion by the left wing in Canada and the right wing in the U.S.

The left-leaning Council of Canadians, which is campaigning against what it calls the increasing integration of the U.S. and Canadian militaries, is raising concerns about the deal.

Read more: http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=47dc5095-4da9-4faa-8464-fe01289b4b7a&k=39530

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I can assure we Canadians are a great deal more worried about the likelihood of American troops coming into Canada than Canadian troops going to the US.

[mac2]

1. Canada is part of NATO but since this is "secret" we can

only be concerned over it.

[peace13]

2. Again.....That trick never works!

We got the Canadians to sign off military rights on the Great Lakes and now Homeland 'Security' boards Canadian pleasure boats on a regular basis. This can take place in US or Canadian waters. Canadians were surprised when their government had given the keys to the lakes to the US. Can't wait to hear how they will enjoy this new detail. I have begged every Canadian I know to wake up before it is too late, but I see it is too late now. Peace, Kim

[mac2]

22. Niagara Mohawk Power built and paid for by the citizens

of Buffalo (at great expense). It was the first power plant of it's kind. Canada doesn't have one so the bought ours. Somehow the public company ended up being "privatized" by the crook Republican governor and Bush energy "for sale" department.

Buffalo power went off for a week after a storm of trees down, etc. That never happened in all my life of living there...44 years. It was a disaster like all the other Democratic city disasters since Bush stole power.

The power is now used by Toronto, CN. You can bet the cost of power went up in Western NY because of it. It was cheap power in the beginning and that's why Buffalo area on the Great Lakes prospered. Republicans rapped and removed their industries, etc. over the last twenty years. They lost half their population (much like the Brits did to Scotland).

Buffalo's biggest employer is now the State University. For a mid-sized city that's not enough jobs.

Yet they won't impeach and put the X-Governor of New York in jail. He's in the UN now.

[peace13]

32. That big promotion is always a tell.

It would be nice to stick them all in jail! Peace, Kim

[SpiralHawk]

3. Hell, not just US right-wing suspicious, the left-wing, too. This is BushCo-Homelander

..New Totalitarian World Order crapola -- and EVERYONE can smell it: the right and the left in the North and the South...

"Move along. There is nothing to see here."
- Your Friendly Intersystem Mind Police

[mac2]

21. These world order police could be used against us

using our tax dollars. Wonder where the trillions missing from the Defense Department went? It's Rumsfeld secret new mercenary military.

I heard they recruited the Iran Contra military units into our military by promising them citizenship. Good grief as an American soldier you don't know who are your enemy...those in your ranks or those behind you such as Blackwater. It's criminal and foolish.

They know our own troops won't attack protesters, prisoners, etc. So they are using "mercenaries". I suspected it for some time since you can't ID the police doing the beatings, etc. These guys in the photo you can tell are Asian and that's it.

Some town in Illinois got very upset to learn special riot police were being trained near them. People are aware that this President will use any possible way to control us and ruin our democracy.

Without openness and accountability we are in great danger.

Yet they won't impeach?

[Pappy]

4. Canada, Americas hat

We own the Canadians. They will do whatever the White House tells them too.

[LynnTheDem]

5. Don't count on it.

Know why the Whitehouse is called the Whitehouse?

[formercia]

10. Because it was pained white

to cover the scorch marks from when the British burned it?

[mac2]

51. It's hard to elect a other color President

when the majority is white. Afro-Americans are 13% of the population. Hispanics were 13% and growing more everyday. If you do get a Afro-American I hope their politics are a lot better than Colin Powell, Ms. Rice, etc.

There are some minority candidates who don't care about America but want their own power regardless of their "clan".

I'd elect a purple President if their politics were really democratic.

[achtung_circus]

6. Hmmmmm. nt

[politicaholic]

12. Excuse me, but America is Canada's ass...

Canada, America's hat...What an original joke!...nobody has said that before...you are SUCH a unique thinker...

The problem is, when people make fun of Canada, they're not kidding, it usually turns out to be their true belief. Have you ever heard this, "I'm not a racist, but I've got this great joke about n******."

When you open your mouth do words come out or do you just pick up the Fox News feed?...lol, now that's funny. You looking like a blow up sex doll with Fox News pumping out. I'll be giggling all day.

[mac2]

26. When you lived near the northern border you wonder why

people make fun or them or think them so different. If it wasn't for the check point between countries you won't see much of a difference. They are a developed country not Mexico.

[politicaholic]

35. Have you ever been on the Winsor shore and looked across to Detroit?

Go there, do that, and tell me who's Mexico and what the differences are.

[mac2]

40. No. Fort Erie to Buffalo.

[LanternWaste]

14. or... America-- Canada's soiled underwear.

or... America-- Canada's soiled underwear.

Six of one, half dozen of another.

[redqueen]

17. Enjoy your stay.

:eyes:

[formercia]

7. Time for a unified currency

now that the two currencies are at parity.

Time to loot the Canadian resources now that Global Warming has exposed them for development.

Time for everyone to speak American English, eh?

Time for the united States of North America.

No more Parliamentary Democracy.

Hail Bush

Hail the New World Order.

:sarcasm:

[peace13]

8. Now we have to brush up on our French and Spanish! n/t

[mac2]

27. Did anyone ever think that Canada and Mexico don't want to

to united or be American? It negates our democracy (at least America and Canada) and Constitution...laws.

What we should be excited about Fascism and World Order Government. It is not our goal but the elite few.

[formercia]

44. I was just being sarcastic

I bet the freepers are going even more nuts on this subject.

You're right, it is an elitist agenda.

The modern version of the Dark Ages.

[mac2]

47. Thom Hartmann calls it "Plantation" rule

A few world elite slave bosses.

[formercia]

49. Welcome to serfdom.

A citizen of the New World Order.

[mac2]

53. A dying breed?

As a citizen born in the free and democratic country of the United States of America my country may never be the same. Selection 2000 was a coup.

[formercia]

55. The right-wing survivalist types were right

except they were blind-sided because it's the right-wing reactionaries that have orchestrated the coup. The crazies were convinced it was a communist plot but they could not have been further from the truth.

[mac2]

57. The RW media talks about "Liberal Fascism"

What are they talking about or is it just a big lie term?

RWers and Conservatives always bring Fascism not Liberals.

[formercia]

60. It sounds good to the 'base'

as long as it has the word 'Liberal' attached, notwithstanding it's a non sequitur.

[olddad56]

56. A common currency between the US, Canada, and Mexico is a done deal.

Google the Amero

[mac2]

58. I blame the media for silencing the coup against democracy

around the world. They are complicit with the loss of democracy and our way of life.

I already turn off most the TV news progams. They are entertainment not news. I can't waste my time. Problem is we pay for it with our own money...they use our money to oppress us.

[Javaman]

9. It's the death by a1000 cuts unification of the continent.

It's the little bargains, the small agreements, the little unseen treaties that are leading us to that point.

The united country of north america.

I believe I will see it in my life time. I don't agree with it, but I believe I'll see it.

[kineneb]

15. nope- will collapse into 9+ Nations of Nor.America

... BC gets Washington and Oregon; Baja gets San Diego and maybe Los Angeles.. the California Republic stretches from the Tehachipies to the OR. boarder. (raise that Bear Flag!)

[mac2]

28. X-President Bush at the 10th Anniversary of NAFTA

on CSPAN called it the Americas Union. It was his dream before his died. It is not ours. He didn't ask us that arrogant, so and so.

I heard a Black liberal call Africa the African Union. Guess they accept it without our vote or approval.

[Demeter]

11. Canada Ought To Be Prosecuting Its Traitor PM Soon

If this doesn't rate a no-confidence, nothing does.

[melody]

13. Canada should be worried about North American Union troops taking us both over

Trust me, the average American doesn't want to have to deal with occupying Canada, setting aside the ethical issue of
invasion.

[AnneD]

19. I think they are more worried about

Russia coming through the Arctic circle if the ice melts. There will be a big fight over those resources.

[melody]

20. They should be but oddly will be more worried about us

It's all territoriality on the Planet of the Apes.

[mac2]

24. Forming those big world order unions

is a dangerous thing since they could start to fight each other over power and resources. Already the EU is plundering our country. Of-course the few elite think they will control it all. That might get out of hand and others might rule instead. The arrogance and stupidity is staggering.

We citizens should be demanding they do more over population control and education so we won't have to fight over the crumbs left (no water, food, shelter, wars, etc.). Heck with religious organizations. They are self destructive in many ways. Little they care who dies or lives...and how they live.

Foreign policy is a very tricky process. Years of negotiation, etc. down the tubes...everyone for themselves. To change it and do it their way is dangerous. They have no idea how to do let alone do what is good for all of us. We live in a nuclear world with lots of mentally ill dictators who would love to kill a lot of people (no worry about the environment, the future, etc.).

Yet..they won't impeach him.

[CHIMO]

36. Thank You

For the heads up.

[mac2]

23. You are right

[CGowen]

16. Welcome to NORTHCOM n/t

[tom_paine]

18. Virtual Anschluss proceeds apace.

You poor Canadians. Did you really think a tyranny such as Imperial Amerika would sit back and allow your freedom to exist right next door?

That would be bad business to allow Canadian freedom to exist, tauntingthe Imperial Subjects of Amerika with what we once had, but will likely never have again.

I also strongly suspect that one way or another, the Bushies got your Bushie Harper into office, be it with Nixon-style slush funds or outright election fraud like they do in the Empire.

Yes, es, I know Canadian elections aren't as easy to rig as Amerikan "elections" but it is naive to assume that the Bushies haven't found a way, and that plenty of cirrupt Canab=dien Bushies would be happy to help destroy your fredoms so they can possess the ashes just likethe Bushies now psosess the remnants of Old, free America.

Poor bastards. We're coming for you, and your unpatriotic freedoms. Better get ready and not look so smugly down at the virtual slaves to your south. We once felt smugly superior to the Russians in the 70s and 80s, now we ARE the Russians of the 70s and 80s.

You have been warned. Heed it, or be as enslaved as the Imperial Subjects of Amerika.

[coalition_unwilling]

31. Not to mention taunting us with universal single-payer health care -n/t

[mac2]

45. The American union leaders are also talking about "world unions for

workers". Ya...like that will work? Everyone has a power blot today.

When they signed NAFTA the unions should have been in the streets. Nope the union leaders just sent in statements,etc. to the media. What was that? Some workers broke off to form another union against "free trade" but on the whole little was done.

Nor for the passage of the additional trade agreements done behind closed doors. Which are unconstitutional and an insult to American workers and farmers. What Constitutional duties Congress?

I'll never forget Howard Dean when he ran for President in Iowa. He stood up there and told them NAFTA was good for us and he was supporting it regardless of their disapproval. What? They looked pretty angry. And people wonder why Dean lost in Iowa (not even a big union state).

They have been shoving these trade agreements down our throats now for many years. They are done in secret because they are not in our best interest. Not one of the leading candidates for President really opposes any of them. Isn't that strange in the worker's party (Democrats)?


http://www.teamster.org/08news/nr_080128_3.asp They want Mary replaced but is that the answer? She is Bush's agency head and he will replace her with one who has the same goals.

Yet they won't impeach.

[coalition_unwilling]

59. I'm not sure your reply was intended for my post per se. But

"world unions for workers" make a lot of sense, imho

Global corporations have monopsony power (the power of the big 'buyer' of labor). So what better way to combat the monopsony power of global corporations that for labor to use international collective bargaining agreements to deploy its potential monopoly power as a seller of labor?

I'm a former shop steward in a teaching assistants local at UW-Madison. One of my big complaints about the American labor movement of the past 50 years is this "I've got mine, to hell with the rest of you" nationalist mentality that has seemed to pre-dominate. What is needed to build truly powerful labor is an "internationalist" mentality, imho.

[mac2]

61. Sorry I don't want anything to be international when it

comes to health care, unions, or military.

[AngryAmish]

25. Everybody Panic!!! New World Order!!!

[mac2]

46. I have since the coup of 2000

Before that with all the Clinton media crap too.

[coalition_unwilling]

29. Canada, please liberate us! We apologize for all the moose jokes -n/t

[SpiralHawk]

30. "Speak for yourself, you hoser." - Moose Joke Appreciation League (MJAL)

[mac2]

52. Have you been to Canada?

Toronto, CN has no Moose and is very progressive...nice city. I hear Vancouver, etc. are also.

[Not a robought]

33. ...

[Doctor_J]

34. This is good. I was afraid when the neocons provoke WWIII

that Israel would be our only ally. Welcome aboard, my friends in the Great White North

[mac2]

48. It''s everyone for themselves as far as I can see.

[earth mom]

37. They are setting the stage for the North American Union people! Bye Bye USA, Canada & Mexico!

GOD DAMN THEM!!!!

Wake Up People!!! :argh:

[CHIMO]

39. It's"God Damn Them All"

O the year was 1778
How I wish I was in Sherbrooke now
A letter of marque came from the king
To the scummiest vessel I've ever seen
God damn them all
I was told we'd cruise the seas for American gold
We'd fire no guns, shed no tears
Now I'm a broken man on a Halifax pier,
The last of Barrett's Privateers

2. O Elcid Barrett cried the town
How I wish I was in Sherbrooke now
For twenty brave men all fishermen who
Would make for him the Antelope's crew
God damn them all . . . .


3. The Antelope sloop was a sickening site
How I wish I was in Sherbrooke now
She'd list to the port and her sails in rags
And the cook in the scuppers with the staggers and jags
God damn them all . . . .


http://ingeb.org/songs/otheyrwa.html

[unkachuck]

38. Dear Canadians....

....the Mighty United States needs more resources and room, your country will do....thank you for your cooperation and understanding....

Sincerely,

Uncle Sam....We Want You!

[mac2]

41. You will give X-President Bush his dream of Fascism.

[mac2]

42. It could happen either way

Bush has been destroying our military. What about yours Canada?

[TrogL]

43. Treason!!!

Time for an election. This oughta do it.

[semillama]

50. Well, considering the last time Canadian troops crossed the border

they burned the White House to the ground, we better watch out, eh?

Ok, technically they were British, but that's like calling the American Colonists British. The troops were inhabitants of Canada = Canadians.

[mac2]

54. Canada, Britain, Australia, New Zealand, etc.

(the Commonwealth nations) tried to remove the Queen's rule and influence once and for all. They even wanted a vote. Australia I believe did but the question was so it was a win, win either way.

Then 911 happened. It was her "Trifecta" too. Now they are removing the rights of those citizens. The ruling elite used 911 to destroy democracy around the world.

Wonder what the Queen is giving Bush for his Americas Union (Canada)? Or is she to rule once again (Bush her royal lap dog). The Brits and Canadians own a lot of America right now. They have since Reagan and his debt.

The people are victims just like us.