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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 01:49 PM
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Obama Plans Return to Iowa to Mark Campaign's Close
Source: Associated Press

Obama plans return to Iowa to mark campaign's close
By MIKE GLOVER | Associated Press Writer
11:38 AM CDT, May 17, 2008

EUGENE, Ore. - Laying a symbolic claim to his party's presidential nomination, Democrat Barack Obama will mark the latest round of primary voting with a rally in Iowa where his solid win in the January caucuses propelled him to his status as the likely nominee.

In announcing the rally, Obama aides on Saturday described Iowa as "a critical general election state that Democrats must win in November." The announcement came as Obama was campaigning for primaries Tuesday in Oregon and Kentucky.

Obama has built a solid lead in delegates over rival Hillary Rodham Clinton, and he is working overtime to cast an image of inevitability to his campaign for the nomination. In recent days, he has spent more time focused on his differences with likely Republican nominee John McCain than sparring with Clinton.

Iowa has been a swing state in recent elections. Democrat Al Gore narrowly carried the state in 2000, and President Bush collected the state's seven electoral votes by just over 10,000 votes in 2004. Since that time, however, Democrats have build a substantial edge in registered voters, and turnout in the January precinct caucuses was at record levels.

Read more: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-obama-iowavisit,0,1036083.story
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 01:52 PM
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1. Campaign's close... as in declaring victory in the Primary? n/t
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VeraAgnes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 01:58 PM
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2. That would be very arrogant..............then again...
bold comes to mind as well.:shrug:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 02:01 PM
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3. The correct phrase is "mathematically literate." He's invoking "The Slaughter Rule." n/t
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VeraAgnes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 02:11 PM
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4. I'm essentially lost on this slaughter stuff.....
please clarify.

I do hope he is going to try and unite the Democratic Party and not act like Cesar who slaughtered the peasants or Hillary Clinton supporters. We really need them in November.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 02:13 PM
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5. The Magistrate explained The Slaughter Rule to me in a different context.
It's the rule invoked at Little League games to declare a winner when the score becomes too lopsided, to spare the losing team excessive embarrassment.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 05:03 PM
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18. If you've been paying attention at all to the Obama
Campaign you would know he's been nothing but gracious and high class all the way and doesn't have a "Caesar" bone in his body.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 05:00 PM
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17. "Mathematically literate"..yeah, we're such a literate,
reality based bloc.. :patriot: :party: :patriot: :kick: :party: :bounce:
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 03:05 PM
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9. Did he bypass the delegate votes at the convention?
We've had enough of Iowa.
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gbrenna Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 02:36 PM
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6. Obama declaring victory
Obama should not declare victory. In fact if cared about the party at all, he would graciously bow out. Hill is a superior candidate and has a better chance in November. I do not know why Obama will not listen to reason. She is the better candidate.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 02:40 PM
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7. Maybe. But the voters have spoken... the bastards. And Obama has won The Primary. n/t
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gbrenna Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 03:05 PM
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8. Voters have spoken
The voters may have spoken, but they were to stupid not to pick the correct candidate. This is what the super delegates are for. They should over ride the stupidity of the people that voted for anyone other than Hill.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 03:08 PM
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10. Voters have spoken ? Did you forget the rest of the states who are
Edited on Sat May-17-08 03:17 PM by mac2
are still waiting to vote in the primary (including Florida and Michigan). Nice to leave out those voters in other states who might vote for the other guy eh?

Let the Democratic voters (not Super Delegates but regular delegates) in FL and MI have their say. What are you afraid of DNC? Liberals might win the agenda?

Forget the convention where the delegates get to vote who will be our candidate or is it easy to act like the winner and we won't notice the primary has not gone to the end of the process...the DNC convention.
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Captainobvvious Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 03:22 PM
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14. How?
I don't know how someone who is objective and looks at the math at hand can come to any other conclusion that Obama is the nominee.

He has a lead that is all but impossible to overcome.

We all knew McCain was the nominee even before he secured the magic number, it was just a matter of waiting for the shoe to drop.

I don't understand how a Democrat, no matter how devoted to their particular candidate can suggest that the party appoint the nominee rather than have one elected democratically.

If you insinuate that the voters shouldn't chose the nominee, rather the party should, why do we even have a primary season?

Clinton lost because she grossly mismanaged her campaign.

You could argue that she is the stronger candidate, and assuming that is true for the sake of argument, giving her, the loser, the nomination would in and of itself make her completely unelectable.

We are worried about party unity when the winner actually WON, never mind telling the democratic base and everyone that voted for Obama that their votes don't count and overturning the election in favor of the loser.

That would render her defeated in the General election in August.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 03:55 PM
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16. Hilary would have made a wonderful President. I would have supported her, if she won the nomination.
But now, she has lost.

It's time to suck it up and support the Democratic nominee.

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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 06:00 PM
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22. Hillary: "Florida and Michigan won't count for anything"
So why should we include two pseudo-elections to please a losing hypocrite?
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 03:19 PM
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12. Bwahahaha!
Edited on Sat May-17-08 03:19 PM by Yael
Okay, now I see.

If they didn't agree with your choice, then then Supers need to step in and overturn the democratic process.

Check.

You do realize that she is hemorrhaging supers, right? As in she has lost 10 to Obama yet he has lost NONE to her?

Previously declared Clinton Supers who now support Obama:

* Kevin Rodriguez (V.I.) switched to Barack Obama - 5/10/08
* Rep. Don Payne (N.J.) switched to Barack Obama - 5/8/08
* Jennifer L. McClellan (Va.) switched to Barack Obama - 5/7/2008
* Joseph J. Andrew (Ind.) switched to Barack Obama - 5/1/08
* Senfronia Thompson (Texas) switched to Barack Obama - 2/27/08
* Dana Redd (N.J.) switched to Barack Obama - 2/20/08
* Sarah Swisher (Iowa) switched to Barack Obama - 2/15/08
* Rep. David Scott (Ga.) switched to Barack Obama - 2/14/08
* Rep. John Lewis (Ga.) switched to Barack Obama - 2/14/08
* Christine Samuels (N.J.) switched to Barack Obama - 2/14/08

:rofl:
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 03:20 PM
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13. The person who looks like they are winning will attract the
most support. If it switches the other way watch them spin on their heels.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 05:06 PM
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20. Thanks Yael..I love those Switcheroos..
That shows me what evolution is all about.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 03:47 PM
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15. Outstanding insight, Mr. 104-Posts. n/t
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 05:57 PM
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21. OMFG
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
You guys are too much!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 06:05 PM
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23. hilly is the inferior candidate. she ran an epically bad campaign
despite having every advantage. she bent over for bush on the IWR and K/L. SDs are pouring in to Obama and want nothing to do with the loser, hilly. Tough for hillbots.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 03:16 PM
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11. It must be up is down day.
:freak:

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-17-08 05:04 PM
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19. WAtch out...you've exceeded your limit
of the koolaid injections.
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