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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 10:57 AM
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Volcano Erupts on Galapagos Islands
Source: AP

AP
Posted: 2008-05-31 11:33:13
Filed Under: Science News, World News

QUITO, Ecuador (May 31) - A volcano on the largest of the Galapagos Islands has begun erupting and authorities are evaluating possible dangers to the island's famed plant and animal life, officials said Friday.

Rangers and tour guides spotted lava flowing down the northeastern flank of the Cerro Azul volcano on the seahorse-shaped island of Isabela late Thursday, the Galapagos National Park said in a statement.

Ecuador's Geophysics Institute said that satellite data and a flyover of the island by park officials showed a "small amount of ash" coming out of the volcano, located on the southwestern edge of the island.

Park official Oscar Carvajal told Radio Quito that as many as four lava flows "have consumed a lot of vegetation," but do not pose a threat to the famed Galapagos tortoises.

Neither was the eruption endangering people on the island, park official Vinicio Pauta said.

The 5,600-foot Cerro Azul - one of five active volcanoes on the island - last erupted in September 1998, causing minor damage to plant life. Cerro Azul is located in the unpopulated southwestern corner of the island.

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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 11:04 AM
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1. Hopefully it will spare the turtles and
slowly, so no one is injured, wipe out the city there. Sustainable development is a contradiction.

Pick everyone up except people required to run the place and move them back to Ecuador.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 11:28 AM
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2. I'm sure the people whose homes would be destroyed appreciate your thoughts.
And if I wanted to burn down your house to let it go back to nature, you'd be okay with that, right?
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minnesota_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 12:18 PM
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4. Arsonist vs Volcano: Not Quite the Same
Edited on Sat May-31-08 12:23 PM by minnesota_liberal
But thanks for playing.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 02:28 PM
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6. 7 Billion humans and 200,000 thousand turtles,
I go with the turtle.
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 07:25 PM
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12. Even when their demise is at the hands
of a perfectly natural cause.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 07:45 PM
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13. Pollution is a natural cause?
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 06:15 PM
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32. Volcanos do not count as polution. They are a naturally
occuring event, that cannot be stopped.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 03:36 PM
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7. Misantrhopes never fail to amuse me
People who cheer the end of the human race.
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Malidictus Maximus Donating Member (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 04:05 PM
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9. Not the end of the human race
Edited on Sat May-31-08 04:06 PM by Malidictus Maximus
But hopefully the realization that we are just one of many species, with no particular divine right to wipe out otheres. A few billion fewer people would be a Good Thing. Doing my part: no kids.
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 09:34 PM
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33. I don't like the sound of one sentence there...
"A few billion fewer people would be a Good Thing."

Please tell me you're not suggesting what I think you're suggesting...
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 04:08 PM
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10. I cheer the end of stupid actions by people. big difference. choose
between animal habitat, especially animals in this ecosystem and people, I choose animals. GO, TURTLES!
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 09:02 PM
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18. Who speaks for Man - Sagan
And I would rather see us than the animals, thank you very much.

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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 07:50 PM
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14. Misantrhopes ? or people who love the Earth?
If we are
to survive, our loyalties must be
broadened further, to include the whole
human community, the entire planet
Earth. Many of those who run the nations
will find this idea unpleasant. They
will fear the loss of power. We will
hear much about treason and disloyalty.
Rich nation-states will have to share
their wealth with poor ones. But the
choice, as H. G. Wells once said in a
different context, is clearly the
universe or nothing."

--Carl Sagan
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 09:02 PM
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17. The Earth AND the Human Community
Edited on Sat May-31-08 09:04 PM by Taverner
Both MUST survive.

Which shapes my views on animal testing of medicines. If its them or us, my reply is "don't let the door hit ya..." to the animals. Thankfully, it doesn't have to come to that.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 10:21 PM
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19. There is no Must in the Equation.
Earth can maintain without humans, we can't survive with out the Earth.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 09:11 AM
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23. Bingo
I am a pretty center of the road guy. I am not advocating. However any person who believes that the action of people in a closed system will not have an impact are wrong.

Galapagos is a perfect example. The damage we did there is measurable and clear. Development of habitat will disrupt and destroy species.

If we continue on this road we will do damage that causes events that impact humans, negatively.

people introduced goats, goats destroyed food, turtles dies. Collapsed established population.
Now helicopters and sharpshooters employed. As well as other efforts to kill them off.

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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:48 PM
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25. Yeah, but what good is it without us?
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:55 PM
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26. People vastly overplay their signifigance
we are great apes. We are self aware but not to the exclusion of that capability showing up in other animals.

We are animals and no more. We are capable of great and horrible things. If we manage not to destroy ourselves there is literally no limit to human capability.

We insignificant in the time line of history on this planet.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 01:04 PM
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27. No I don't - the world would SUCK to me without me here
And I guarantee the world would suck to you without you

If you think we humans are such a menace - why are you still alive?
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 01:18 PM
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28. You misunderstand
This is not about the value of human life mine or yours. It is about the place of people in the natural world. As part of intelligence people have come up with the idea they have a divine right to exist.

We do not, the idea that our death is more "important" to the system than that of a goldfish is absurd.

Just because we can change aspects the environment does not mean we should.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 01:22 PM
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29. My friend, nothing has a "place" - you just make one
The natural order to the universe is nothingness - the existence of matter alone disrupts the natural order.

All meaning is made and created - not predetermined
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 01:42 PM
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30. Perception
this can quickly turn into a topic that can cover hours. In my opinion humanity in not mature enough to grasp the concepts that govern the universe.

At some point our impact on this planet will require better management. Regardless of current climate discussion there will be more and more significant issues to cover as the number of people increase and the technology available to us advances.

Providing we don't kill ourselves first. genetics compound this 10 fold.

The indefinite combination of human fallibility and nuclear weapons will
lead to the destruction of nations
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 01:45 PM
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31. Well things can go either way
Perhaps we aren't the best stewards of this planet, but we are the only game in town. Like any living creature, we must grow - so space exploration/colonization is in our destiny.

We have to get things right - that's for sure. But the universe wouldn't be better or worse without us.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 08:56 AM
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21. First I said no one injured, second if you pay for me
to upgrade it is yours. Galapagos is a closed system. People have done massive damage there. Extinctions are directly linked to human activity..

At no point did I suggest harming anyone or depriving them of anything.

Personally I think people should be relocated and paid 500,000 a head. That would make them wealthy and secure the place.

Like Madagascar it is a stunning and complex place. We should take steps not to destroy it.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 02:22 PM
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5. 'City'? Total population of the island is 2,200
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:07 PM
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15. Eh. They probably call themselves one.
I thought for a long time there were conventions regarding "town" and "city." Not so. :shrug:
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 11:36 AM
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3. I Hope to Go to the Galapagos Islands in the Next Few Years
Probably going to be the best trip I have ever taken, even though it will be the most expensive.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 09:01 AM
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22. I do as well
however I am torn as I do not want to contribute to development of the population. I am far from an eco warrior, but do believe that some places must be protected from destruction.

I do want to go, but you are correct on the price, about 7000 a person with airfare and boat trip..

last of his kind (thanks to us) resting tortoise..
http://kurup.org/dave/photo/images/43473/!%20lonely%20george.jpg
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 09:59 AM
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34. Beautiful Creatures
They keep tourists in check when they get there... I know I'll be very cautious as not to leave any "foot print" there.

Some day...
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 03:54 PM
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8. Hope the penguins are safe.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 08:16 PM
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16. The volcano is at the extreme SW tip of the largest Island.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 04:19 PM
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11. Isn't this Darwin's favorite hangout?
Where he studied the evolution of the creatures of the island?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 01:11 PM
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36. Yes, clearly God is speaking out against evolution
O8)

:sarcasm:
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Lefta Dissenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 07:35 AM
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20. uhhh,
Little do people know how much work goes into preserving the species on the Galapagos - work done by people from all over the world, including those who have their homes on the Islands. It's a tough life - they're not living in friggin' Hawaii, after all.


By the way, here's a picture of me, the first time I was down there as a research assistant.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-01-08 12:44 PM
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24. That is really cool
i meant people who live there with no connection to the park or cdrs. I certainly would not want to make a person worse off by moving them.

I cant think more people there would be a good thing..

From someone who has done work there do you thing visiting there is a negative thing, I am considering a trip?
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 10:27 AM
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35. Wow. I'm very jealous.
Thank you for your great work. :thumbsup:
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 01:23 PM
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37. i don't get it. why would "work" be needed to preserve species?
they usually preserve themselves unless people kill them, destroy their habitat, etc.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-02-08 02:15 PM
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38. I Appreciate what you and your colleagues Do
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