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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 08:08 PM
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Press angry over secret meeting between Obama and Clinton
Source: CNN

Reporters traveling with Barack Obama were none too happy to find out he was meeting with Hillary Clinton last night, as they were about to take off in a candidate-less plane from Washington’s Dulles airport.

The traveling press pool spent at least five minutes grilling Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs about the meeting, and the campaign’s unwillingness to send at least a reporter or two along with Sen. Obama.

Now the presumptive Democratic nominee, custom dictates that Obama should be treated the same way as the president — never being without at least a few pool reporters traveling with him.

“If the president goes bike riding, we go with him. If he goes out to dinner or goes to visit a friend three blocks up the road, we go with him in the motorcade,” one reporter told Gibbs. “That’s the expectation in a general election, and that’s the way it’s been with previous candidates.”

http://rawstory.com/rawreplay/?p=1210">See Video


Clip is from CNN.com, broadcast June 6, 2008.

Read more: http://rawstory.com/rawreplay/?p=1210




There's plenty of speculation running rampant about the true location of this covert meeting, in light of the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_Group">Bilderberg Group Conference that was being held at the Marriott just 20 minutes away.


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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 08:10 PM
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1. "Say what?"
Edited on Fri Jun-06-08 08:12 PM by Botany
:rofl: These are the same assholes who helped cover up the
2000, 2002, 2004, and 2006 election crimes ... fuck 'em.

The Washington Post immediately dismissed allegations of fraud as ''conspiracy theories,''(1) and The New York Times declared that ''there is no evidence of vote theft or errors on a large scale.''(2)

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the_2004_election_stolen
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 09:52 PM
Response to Reply #1
24. Maybe there were right, and the allegations are just nutty conspiracy
theories?
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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 03:15 PM
Response to Reply #24
77. Conspiracy theories didn't send 2 Cuyahoga County election workers to jail. n/t
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seasat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 07:41 PM
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78. Or the the lawsuit by the NAACP against Choicepoint over Florida
For those that don't remember, Choicepoint prepared the voter list for Florida and "accidentally" cut from the rolls minorities. They agreed to settle the lawsuit by the NAACP by redoing the way they did the list. The list was so inaccurate that some Florida counties refused to use and instead went with their own list.

The US Commission on Civil Rights also released a scathing report regarding the 2000 election in Florida.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 08:12 PM
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2. Ahhhhh the press is feeling sooooooo sad....
I feel soooooo bad for them. They have to have their story fed to them. They know not how to do reporting. They just know from sound bites. They study meaningful head tilt and flourishing jesture and pauses in Journalism school now...

Fuck 'em...

If they would have ben reporting instead of following Bush around like a mess of sedate popparatzi's, then maybe they would have been able to figure out he was full of shit and we wouldn't have been in this fucking war....
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 08:17 PM
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4. Don't blame the rank and file journalists,

blame their bosses.

the press rank and file don't get to decide which stories make it to publication or the airwaves.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 10:34 PM
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29. Oh come on....
Those yahoos that follow the president around never do any actual reporting. They just rejurcitate whatever the press office lays out for them.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 08:20 PM
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7. Please just today they reported that the senate has found out bush lied ...
... to start the Iraq war.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/06/world/middleeast/06intel.html?bl&ex=1212897600&en=da02c25e6d56b662&ei=5087%0A

WASHINGTON — A long-delayed Senate committee report endorsed by Democrats and some Republicans concluded that President Bush and his aides built the public case for war against Iraq by exaggerating available intelligence and by ignoring disagreements among spy agencies about Iraq’s weapons programs and Saddam Hussein’s links to Al Qaeda.

******

Gotta love our liberal press
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 12:39 PM
Response to Reply #7
75. That's our Senate, always the last to know.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 08:52 AM
Response to Reply #2
58. if they really studied that stuff, they would have reported shrub's jump during the debate with gore
at one point, al gore casually walked over a bit into shrub's side. this, of course, was a calculated move designed to show who's taller. but shrub's reaction was remarkable. he hadn't noticed until gore was fairly close, and when he looked up, he jumped up and back, visibly startled.

this is NOT the reaction of an alpha dog to having his space encroached. this is NOT the reaction of a leader.

this is the reaction of an easily intimidated and manipulated fool who has no business being in charge of a country.


and yet, the press ignored this very telling moment to concentrate on gore's earth-tones and sighs....
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 10:06 AM
Response to Reply #58
64. bush is the media's carrion necktie...
in old days, when a farmer had a otherwise good dog who suddenly began eating the chickens, they'd reprimand the dog and soon ...but if the dog's like of chicken trumped any retraining, the farmer resorted to the 'carrion necktie' ...he'd get a dead chicken and secure it to the dog's neck, where it ...turned...lol. After a few days, the annoying mess just outta reach of its jaws made the dog eager to please the farmer- it dimly perceived its lesson. But the farmer ignored his best friend, wanting a soul-searing change of habit or nothing. So the poor dog suffered out back, having been banned from polite co. of rooting pigs and smelly goats etc, and when maggots began going for its eyes, which the stench made water, the dog had had enough! Rolling in the dirt constantly only wings wetted down the entire dog; made its very being putrid. It was unapproachable from a hundred feet. It howled for hours, which disturbed the peaceful farm, and boys chased the appalling mess further away....meanwhile, the dog ate nothing, hummed with bitter thirst, and....finally..finally, the farmer called his dog to him. And the dog NEVER bothered a chicken again.
The 'dog' is the mass media, aka the pigmedia/Bushytail Media/foxnews. Normally, the dog patrols the farm, trees bears and rescues tots when they fall in the pond etc, and thus earns his keep...but for some reason he suddenly likes killing and tearing apart the chickens. So, the 'dead chicken' tied to his neck is junyer bush, and his filthy few admin/associates like rice/rumsmell/arifliesher/joe lieberman cheney rove etc. The 'farmer' is the people. The maggots? I suspect we all know who the maggots are...lol
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #64
73. if only....!
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 08:12 PM
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3. Obama says......

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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 08:19 PM
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5. LOL

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Middle finga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 08:19 PM
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6. Fuck'em, let'em go eat Bar b que and hang out with McCain
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 08:24 PM
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8. McBush has a 'private' fund raiser, the press doesn't care... reverse the role, and they freak out
Edited on Fri Jun-06-08 08:26 PM by ixion
gotta love that 'liberal' media. :eyes:
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 08:29 PM
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9. WAAAaaaa! But they'll bow down to "Executive Privilege" for this guy???
Edited on Fri Jun-06-08 08:30 PM by Impeachment_Monkey
Better send a Wambulance!!!

<a href="" target="_blank"><img src="" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 08:30 PM
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10. Sucks to be them.
Good job, Hillary and Barack!!

:rofl:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 08:38 PM
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11. Oh, isn't THAT too awful!
They make me sick...

Let them hustle for their stories!

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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 08:44 PM
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12. Too bad, so sad.
:nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity:
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randr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 08:51 PM
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13. Watched MSNBC perched at Hill house
last night. Waiting for Obama to show up any minute. The reporter outside had enough sense to suspect that Hill had ducked out the back door and she and Obama were probably meeting somewhere else at the time.
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 08:56 PM
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14. Picture of Hillary = $25.00
Picture of Barack = $25.00............Picture of Hillary with Barack =$50.00.......Picture of those reporters stranded on Obama's plane.....PRICELESS!!!!!
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NikolaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 09:00 PM
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15. It Was Priceless
The look of humiliation on Candy Crowley's face when she realized that her "sources" had duped her and they were not meeting at Hillary's house. She was stammering a bit and looked mighty pissed because they had wasted all of that time speculating and staking out Hillary's house for nothing :rofl:. It was PRICELESS, she looked like the idiot she is.
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Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 09:15 PM
Response to Reply #15
19. "She was stammering a bit and looked mighty pissed"
what's new about that?

I can't stand to see her...
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 08:23 AM
Response to Reply #15
54. MSNBC kept cutting to shots of that house and Andrea Mitchell's breathless voice-over--
100% speculation.

God, what a GREAT moment in enternewsment! :rofl:
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lolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 11:32 AM
Response to Reply #54
69. Yo! Andrea! I hear Al Capone's secret safe is being opened!
They're all Geraldos now.

Heck, they make Geraldo look good.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 09:09 PM
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16. Oh, noes!!!!1 n/t
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armodem08 Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 09:13 PM
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17. The first comment on Raw Story says it all:
"Great, now the press itself is the news. The story is that there was no opportunity for a story. Is that like the snake swallowing itself because it didn’t get a meal?"

The press needs to learn its place.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 09:14 PM
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18. Why don't they do what they always do...
make it up? Damn. Do they need to bring back Judith Miller?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 08:24 AM
Response to Reply #18
55. They did--Andrea Mitchell's report was pure speculation; she wasn't even
at the right house! :rofl:
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 10:13 AM
Response to Reply #55
65. mrs alan greenspan, economic hitman for global fascism...
she probably thinks everybody forgets what she and her ilk- and like greenspan himself, have done- treason.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 09:22 PM
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20. Too bad they didn't get angry over the secret meetings between Cheney and the oil barons
The GOP presstitutes need to be sent to Gitmo on Jan 21
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 09:32 PM
Response to Reply #20
23. BINGO!!!!
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 07:30 AM
Response to Reply #20
50. Or Bush and Cheney's secret testimony to the 9/11 panel
The American press can go fuck themselves with a red-hot cast-iron dildo.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 10:26 AM
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66. How many were along on the hunting trip when Elmer Cheney shot that old lawyer in the face?
Edited on Sat Jun-07-08 10:32 AM by Lasher
Zero, ya say?



Total, absolute bullshit! Obama and Hillary have a perfect right to a private strategy session.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 09:23 PM
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21. Ah, so they both went to the Bildersberg conference!
And Hillary opened a vein and Obama drank her blood while the powerbrokers applauded.
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 11:13 PM
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34. No doubt!
Jim Johnson, a member of Friends of Bilderberg, is one of the three members of Obama's VP selection committee (the other two being Caroline Kennedy and Eric Holder).

Johnson's name also appears on this year's Bilderberg Conference guest list.



The report lists Johnson as a member of "American Friends of Bilderberg," which is an offshoot Bilderberg front group that has accepted donations from the Ford Foundation to fund Bilderberg meetings where lavish hotels are entirely booked up for three days, by no means an inexpensive feat. The organization is basically a steering committee for the Bilderberg Group - a secretarial outpost through which Bilderberg conferences are organized.

Johnson has also directly attended Bilderberg meetings therefore can be classed as a Bilderberg luminary. He attended last year's meeting in Istanbul, Turkey.

Johnson is also "A vice chairman of the private banking firm Perseus LLC, a position he has held since 2001. He is also a board member at Goldman Sachs, Gannett Company, Inc., a media holding group, KB Home, a home construction firm, Target Corporation, Temple-Inland, and UnitedHealth Group."

Predictably, he is also also a member of the Trilateral Commission and the Council on Foreign Relations.


James A. Johnson (center): Ultra-elitist Bilderberg luminary and corporate capo who will select the potential future U.S. President.

This would be the second presidential race running that the Bilderberg Group has been instrumental in helping to select the running mate for the Democratic candidate.

In 2004 it was reported that John Edwards' performance at the Bilderberg conference in Italy was a key factor in his selection as John Kerry's number two. Bilderberg attendees even broke house rules to applaud Edwards at the end of a speech he gave to the elitists about American politics.

Bilderberg has a proven history of acting in a kingmaker capacity. Both Bill Clinton and Tony Blair attended Bilderberg meetings in the early 90's before becoming President and Prime Minister respectively.

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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 07:23 AM
Response to Reply #21
49. My sources tell me
that the main course was live kittens.
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Agony Donating Member (865 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 09:23 PM
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22. But it's OK for Shotgun Dick to have a secret planning meeting with Oil Co executives?
I didn't hear much of a stink from the press over Dickless's secret energy policy scheming session with elite industry insiders, so eff off.
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 10:12 PM
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25. They're just piseed Obama duped them.
This was supposed to be a private media between Barack and Hillary. The media would have turned it into a circus. Obama shook them, they looked like fools, and now they're mad.
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 10:25 PM
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26. Who was the idiot reporter who said this?

“If the president goes bike riding, we go with him. If he goes out to dinner or goes to visit a friend three blocks up the road, we go with him in the motorcade,” one reporter told Gibbs. “That’s the expectation in a general election, and that’s the way it’s been with previous candidates.”


Well, there's the answer to your problem - had you followed your own protocol, according to your statement of following the PRESIDENT, you wouldn't have been following Hillary and Obama. DUH!
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 10:31 PM
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27. How many of THEM bitched
about the secret meetings with Darth Vader and the energy execs?? FU
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Carrieyazel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 10:34 PM
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28. McCain camp to hit Obama on this, I heard on some show tonight.
I wouldn't be surprised. They'll try to convince the media that Obama treats them badly, and raise "secrecy" issues about Obama, according to this source.

This race is going to be an interesting one.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 11:01 PM
Response to Reply #28
31. Of Course. The Campaign Always Coordinates the Talking Points With the Mighty Slime Machine (MSM)
Edited on Fri Jun-06-08 11:02 PM by AndyTiedye


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oldskool Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 10:58 PM
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30. Good for em'
That's what the get for listening to Bush and Cheney. Now they
know how we feel about dis-info. 
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 11:11 PM
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32. Were their feelings hurt? Aw, poor babies.
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 11:11 PM
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33. Oh, how my heart bleeds...
Edited on Fri Jun-06-08 11:12 PM by guruoo
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-06-08 11:22 PM
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35. But they don't care that Bush lies constantly about the war
and everything else concerning actual policy. fucking whores.
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:01 AM
Response to Reply #35
37. AMEN!!!! nt
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 12:38 AM
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36. Team Obama at DU hammered Hillary on this ...
... because she didn't invite enough industry insiders while she was writing proposals for national health care.

Here's my take on the recent "press outrage" --

GOOD!

Let the press whine all they want.

The Clintons have kept the press corps on a leash, and so should Barack Obama. (But he should watch out for being stabbed in the back when he can least afford it. Look what happened to Bill in 1998 and Hillary this spring.)

John McCain has the fawning adulation of the press. As I've said before, the press corps loves Obama -- but it's married to McCain. The man (BHO) has to learn how to crack the whip over their heads, and the sooner, the better.

--p!
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 01:02 AM
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38. Somebody let them know
it's not about THEM.
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Cobalt-60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 02:43 AM
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39. They want to start working NOW?
Sorry presstitutes,
your eight years of passing on pre fabbed propaganda has evaporated your credibility.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 04:40 AM
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40. 'Speculation'? The reality is they met at Diane Feinstein's house
Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton met privately Thursday night at the Washington home of Sen. Dianne Feinstein, a key supporter of Clinton's presidential campaign, Feinstein said Friday.

She left them in her living room with nothing other than water and comfortable chairs for what she called a positive meeting. No one else was in the room, and no one is giving details of what was discussed.
...
The meeting began at 9 p.m. and lasted about an hour, Feinstein said.
...
It was the two Democratic candidates' first meeting since Obama became the party's presumptive nominee Tuesday.

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/06/clinton.obama.wrap/?iref=mpstoryview


Sorry to pour cold water on a conspiracy theory that the enthusiasts here would like to take flight.
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heliarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 09:49 AM
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63. I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall! nt
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 04:45 AM
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41. If I were Obama, I wouldn't trust the M$M.
But for a few stalwart exceptions, the media has been the lackeys of the powers that be.
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anniebelle Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 05:00 AM
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42. They're so good at reporting the "News" now, aren't they?
What whiny little bitches they are. I saw that little freak from Newsweek (I think), Richard Wolfe, on Keith last night whining about it. Maybe they need to be left "out-of-the-loop" entirely for the next eight years, since they've done such sterling jobs in their last eight years.
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4dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 05:33 AM
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43. Fuck the press on this one!! nt
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 05:36 AM
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44. On the one hand
I understand why they were upset because the reporters supposedly with him were on the plane to Chicago before they found out he wasn't on it. They should have been told before they got on the plane.

On the other hand, it serves them right for refusing to cover the Bilderberg meeting in the first place! They should have had reporters outside it. We would never even know about the Bilderbers sans the internet.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 06:47 AM
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45. There were plenty of reporters in that first Cheney "Energy" meeting!
Right? What?

oh yeah
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 06:49 AM
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46. Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke.
The media that were being fooled "live" thought it was pretty funny. MSNBC kept going back to Hillary's house saying "anything yet"?
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 06:57 AM
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47. Obama campaigned effectively despite the press.
The press is trying to cling to its desire to be the sole messenger to the public. Where the hell were you during this misadministration that, by you inaction, you have essentially coddled? I have zero sympathy for the press, save certain respect for particular people who spoke up.
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NicR Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 07:16 AM
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48. Oh the poor babies !
Perhaps if they reported all the truth the to the Americian people about the corruption and evil in bush and company I would have some sympathy for them ,actually no I would'nt . I feel the press has alot to do with the current state of our country by not reprting accurately or doing investigating reporting on Iraq and many other things. These supposely news agencies are mostly owned by big corperations or right wing consevative billoniares and I dont give much credence to just about anything they write . While we are working on change ,how about getting rid of the the same old gang of talking heads and news men and women on TV . Wolf Blizer comes to mind and the same group of politicial talking heads who are already talking about McCain like he is somoeone that may win the election ,when I see him only as a senial old man with the same mentality of bush and a even more dangerous war monger! Lets start with a whole new group of these TV reportes also ,retire all the old hasbeens Iam sick and tired of hearing their voices while they are so out of touch with what the average Ameican middle class and the working poor must endure with their muti-million $ contracts ! Let them all sit on the unemployment lines with the rest of us !
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 08:08 AM
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51. After the way the Press treated them,
should the Press wonder why Barack and Hillary might want to exclude them from knowledge of the meeting?
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Zambero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 08:10 AM
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52. Assemble the musicians!
Violins only!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity:

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against all enemies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 08:18 AM
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53. Maybe they should be more upset at their boot licking of Bush during
the build up to the Iraq War. But they all did get cool nicknames that the President could joke with them with.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 08:25 AM
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56. But that requires a sense of shame. Vapidity (a job requirement for enternewsment)
precludes shame.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 08:33 AM
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57. What would you guys bet
Edited on Sat Jun-07-08 08:33 AM by FlaGranny
that Hillary demanded this exclusion of the press. After all, she had Obama come to her and the meeting was held in HER friend's home, and didn't Obama tell her he'd like a meeting at HER convenience? This is all Hillary - not Obama.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 09:25 AM
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60. Oh for Pete's sake, there's one in every crowd. A pathetic shit stirrer who
just can't manage keeping on point. This isn't a blame Hillary thread, it isn't a anything Hillary thread.


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lolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 11:37 AM
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70. Check your own sigline, Florida
n/t
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 12:34 PM
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72. Well, I really didn't mean that to be nasty.
Edited on Sat Jun-07-08 12:36 PM by FlaGranny
I just believe Hillary asked for it and part of the evidence for that is where the meeting was held. There is nothing wrong with it, but I still believe it was at Hillary's request. I don't blame her - I would probably have done the same thing. My opinion stands - Hillary asked for it. I don't know what's wrong with the opinion or Hillary asking for it.

P.S. Everyone seemed to be backslapping Obama for slipping his reporters, but no one considered the fact the Hillary wanted privacy.
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jcla Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 08:59 AM
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59. Good for Obama and Clinton!
The press don't have to be at every meeting of everybody. They are just griping because they didn't get a news flash on what they want to be news. What about investigating Bush and Cheney for war crimes and why this isn't pursued. What about the economy... or the gas crises that are forcing prices up when there is oil... what about getting green vehicles... So many stories are more worthy than a meeting of a presidential nominee and his former opponent.
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 10:44 AM
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67. Obama know enough to keep the press away as much as possible.
He has seen what they have done to Gore, Kerry, and Clinton. He will have none of it. He doesn't need them...he has the Internet!!!
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 09:25 AM
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61. The Obama/Edwards meeting was no press - why is this different?
Just because of the Bilderberg Group?
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heliarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 09:48 AM
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62. "If the president is sleeping with Marilyn Monroe, we go with him"
Oh wait... that's different. :-)
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 10:56 AM
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68. Fuck you, you chickenshit LIARS!
You let Bush disappear to his ranch, and all sorts of other places without following him.
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ryanmuegge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 11:39 AM
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71. But they weren't angry over Cheney's secret energy task force?
You know, the shit that really matters?

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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 12:36 PM
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74. excellent point!
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NewEnglandGirl Donating Member (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 12:51 PM
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76. Press/Media does not know their places
They think they're some kind of entitled royalty. They'd be in everyone's bedrooms if they could get in there.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 07:43 PM
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79. The press is all butthurt because the politicians outsmarted them.
Morons.
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seasat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-08-08 07:47 PM
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80. If they were real reporters, they might have known about the meeting
That is what aggravates me about their complaints. A real journalist doesn't just trail around public figures waiting to see what they eat for dinner. They investigate the background behind what that figure says. They cultivate sources to get them inside information. They don't just wait on spoon fed comments. The press was embarrassed by their own laziness. That is what was exposed.
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