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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:54 AM
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Bush's last major visit to Europe greeted with hostility
Source: USA Today

BRDO PRI KRANJU, Slovenia (AP) — U.S. President George W. Bush is making his last major visit to a continent where many dismiss him as yesterday's man.

As his presidency winds down, Bush — reviled by many Europeans and simply ignored by others — can do little this week but smooth the way for his successor.

"I believe that it's more important now for all of us to see if his successor would do any change," said Sonja Virant, a 42-year-old clothes designer in the capital, Ljubljana.

Bush, she said, "can't do anything bad anymore — or I hope so."



Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2008-06-09-bush_reaction_N.htm
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 10:58 AM
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1. His last major visit to the mid-east resulted in the same.
can't do anything bad anymore — or I hope so.--:wtf:
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 11:00 AM
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3. And his last major trip from the White House, in the helicopter, will be still more of the same
That's my wish for his last day, that some skilled and gifted photographer adequately and inspirationally captures the image of him getting on that copter and LEAVING.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 11:58 AM
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12. Too bad it won't happen before Jan 20. nt
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 11:00 AM
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2. "We don't want no steenkin, lying republicon chickenhawk elitists." - Europa
Edited on Mon Jun-09-08 11:01 AM by SpiralHawk
"We have had it with you republicon liars and war profiteers, and your denial of the facts of environmental degradation and global climate change. When you Yanks finally get someone reasonably honest into office, send them over. Until then, fuggetaboutit."

- Europa
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 11:14 AM
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9. SpiralHawk
SpiralHawk

The symbol for Europe,is indeed a nice woman.. Even that I believe she is not that young anymore.. Rather a middle aged woman, who know how the world can be, with wisdom and knowledge about the most of affairs... But still with the glimt of the young woman she once was..

What is the symbol for US again?.. A Eagle?

Diocletian

Sorry my bad english, not my native language
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 12:45 PM
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15. The symbol of my people is our symbol
The symbol of your people is your symbol.

There's no such thing as a "superior" culture -- just other ones. Yours is yours, in all its bad and good,
just as mine is mine.
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 04:19 PM
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18.  melody
melody

By all means;). Was not meant that way. The symbol of Europe are something we have together I guess. What I wanted to say, is that the woman in many ways "symbols" Europe (who in ancient times was a goodness, but not to much is known about the goodness I am afraid)

Even that this picture are nice, very wonderfully. I would guess that a better symbol of the goodness of Europe, should be little older. We as an continent, who say we are from Europe, are older than many other parts of the world.. I wold say, that a older, more life-Wise woman should given Europe a proper presentation if something should portrait our continent... our old continent, have seen their share of death, war and misery... But I guess we have been learning ourself some lesson about the wastefully of war... Even your Eagle must understand that sometimes down the road;).

Diclotican

Sorry my bad english, not my native language.

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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 05:48 PM
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19. Our culture is as old as any other
It is a cumulative culture. Culture doesn't adhere to real estate ... it moves with its people.

But I understand your point.

I assure you, your English is probably better than mine. lol
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 06:00 PM
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20.  melody
melody

Absolutely.. The culture in Europe have grown with all the history we have here.. The Greeks, the Romans, and every one else who have been here, have shaped our culture and what we are today.. As the history, and they who have shaped US in past have made US what it is today... Our roots is deep, and even today europe have much to thank to their roots in early times...

As US have much to thank their roots...

I try my best, even that I do know I am not the best in english... But I'm better and better, and use the spell page enough to get it right;)

Diclotican

Sorry my bad english, not my native language
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 11:00 AM
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4. Bush, she said, "can't do anything bad anymore — or I hope so."
It ain't over until the White House swing doors are hitting Dumbya hard on his ass (I hope) at the end of his last day in office.
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pink-o Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 06:21 PM
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23. "Don't let the doorknob hit ya where the good lord split ya" n/t
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 11:04 AM
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5. Loved to the very end.
:rofl:
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GreatCaesarsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 11:05 AM
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6. is pickles meeting him in europe?
she was just there. are they having separate european vacations?

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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 11:15 AM
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10. lokks like he has another traveling 'companion'
Edited on Mon Jun-09-08 11:15 AM by xxqqqzme
'...Bush and U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice planned to meet with Slovenian President Danilo Turk and Prime Minister Janez Jansa, and later with European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso and EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana....'
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 11:18 AM
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11. Eva faithfully accompanies Adolf on his final freedom-lovin' lame duck victory lap


:scared:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 12:21 PM
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14. Condi is his babysitter.
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 11:08 AM
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7. "Reviled by many and ignored by others." That could be his epitaph.
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concerned canadian Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-10-08 01:00 AM
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25. "reviled by many and ignored by others. This could be his epitaph"

haha too funny to let slip away so easily
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 11:11 AM
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8. "...Bush,...." said
Sonja Virant, a 42-year-old clothes designer........"can't do anything bad anymore — or I hope so."


Your hope is shared by the world dear lady.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 12:01 PM
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13. I am about to go buy a nice bottle of bubbly for when Bush leaves.
I want to take inauguration day OFF and stay home and drink myself silly in celebration of his getting his CRIMINAL ASS out of we the people's house.
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postulater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 01:14 PM
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16. Me? I thought I'd STOP drinking on Inauguration Day.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 03:55 PM
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17. he has an affinity for the new Europe now that old Europe has turned on him
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Bragi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 06:02 PM
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21. I'd say "loathing and contempt" rather than just "hostility" /NT
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 06:09 PM
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22. I hope they arrest him and throw his ass in the Hague
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-09-08 09:29 PM
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24.  nebula
nebula

I was hoping you can fix the little scum on your own... Why should we have to get him, and get him the trial he so richly deserve?.. It would cost "us" a lot of taxpayers money just to get him the protecting he would need in prison.. Many in Europe, even criminals who would say a little word to this toed of a man... Just because the International Criminal Court are in Hague don't mean the US should not try to get the scumbag into the custody of the criminal system.. But I guess he would be told to be insane, and therefore not in any position to stand trail in the US.. But i DO hope that ICC and Interpol would get an international criminal warrant for EVERY ONE OF THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION and that every member state of ICC or Interpol have the duty to arrest, and send them to Hague... That should deter every one of this administration to ever put their feet outside of the United States territorie... And it would kill every possible chance, to this administrations representation to get money for their book sales.. Not if hey have to promote their books internationaly... And you can't get a diplomat pass to every single when they are out of office.. Even as former government figures.. I would love to se Pearle and CO be arrested for criminal behavour... Or maybe even the old Rumsfeld been dragged to the Hague... What a wonderfully sight it would be... Then he should thank his maker for one thing.. "Old Europe" don't hang people anymore.. Even Russia have stopped that habit..

The best is if US was doing a type of the Nuremberg system. Where all the biggest, fattest criminals of the former Bush administration was to get the trial they deserve.. And there _all_ prof of their guilt is coming to light... When US, with their allied managed that in 1945-46 at the beginning of the cold war, with the deep distrust from the russian, you should manage it when it come to Mr Bush and the cronies that come there.. I know it would consume the most of the US for a decade or more. The process would be painfully, hard for many american.. But in the end a better, more healthy USA would come to light.. And a more honest country, who really know that evil are not everyone else get, but even american could get this evil... And that the american learned something from the experience of mr Bush too... Never sleep and let the guard go down when it come to dictators...

But, that is maybe just a dream.. If we are Lucky he would be remembered as the worst President the US have had since the beginning... And maybe even that it meant that USA was correcting their course little.. To hope for a full blown criminal cort when it come to the many crimes this administration have been doing, to the US and the world is possible little to naive to dream about.. It looks like in US they grow up to believe that their system is best in the world.. And there even criminal president would get their statue, even if it means that every one proof of their criminal are up in the open is neglected.. The Right still believe mr Nixon was a hero... Even that he was minutes away from criminal hearings in the Senate... But hey he was not a criminal.. :sarcasm: I guess the same would happened to Bush, even that his crimes are worse than everything President Nixon ever do....

No, I don't believe mr Bush would be arrested, or faced with what he have been doing.. The US would not dear to dig into the past, and to se that they have been lied to, corrupted to the core.. And plundered for everything of value.. Then rater live with the false impression that they still are honest. And that 8 year with mr Bush never really happened.. Better to blame every ting on the leftist, the liberals, whatever the right wing talking points would be in the future.. The fact that liberals have going away from the name and using "progressive" instead, when they mean liberals tell a whole new story about the misuse from the right.. And that even Orwell's 1984 would be proud of how the rich english language have been corrupted to say the opposite of what the words really mean... The "New-speak" language of the Right have learned their lesson from other dictatorship in the time of history I guess

If US was to dig into the history, and I mean REALLY DIG into the last 8 year, and every single document about what happening since 2000, to 2009 was coming to light, millions of americans would almost die.. If the Media really, after the new president (whatever it may be) was doing their job, and give the public every bit of information of what they have been holding back for 8 year, I would guess that the right wing radio host and CO would be driven out of their studios by ten of thousands of angry mob, who would give them everything they deserve... If US was to wake up to the reality of misuse of their name for 8 year.. Many millions who believed every one word that the Right wing media was given would tear down the Fox studio.. And types like mr O'really would be happy to stay alive... It would be a horrible scene where the public itself would tear down every single right wing media nuts.. But I guess it is more easy to sit down, and take a bear and look at american idol, then to stand up to the oppressors, and to fight for the right they are taking for granted.. Millions of americans still believe they are living in a free nation... And the their Constitution are still living well.. We on the outside sees all the danger, but can't help you to se it. That is something You have to do for yourself...

Diclotcian

Sorry my bad english, not my native language



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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 01:49 AM
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26. Rep. Kucinich has recited 35 counts of Impeachment in the House.
It's a start.
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-11-08 07:04 AM
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27.  Perragrande
Perragrande

Definitely a start.. Even that I am not sure how long mr Kucinich are going with this... It would take more than one man to get this criminal syndicate out or office.. But it is a start.. And mr Bush are out of country for some "haven't I been a nice president" trip to Europe.. Who welcome him with what I would call a cold sholder...

Diclotican

Sorry my bad english, not my native language
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