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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:18 AM
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Cheney gets last laugh (in battle to withhold records. Dems are conceding defeat)
Source: The Hill

Vice President Dick Cheney has won his battle to withhold records from the public despite efforts by Congress and other critics who say they should be open to scrutiny.

The Democrats are conceding defeat. The party’s top investigator in the House of Representatives acknowledges that there is nothing more he can do to force the vice president’s hand.

“He has managed to stonewall everyone,” said Rep. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.), chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee. “I’m not sure there’s anything we can do.”

Waxman said that despite Cheney’s turning this administration into “one of the most secretive in history,” there’s not much he or anyone else can do because the administration has only a few more months left in office.

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Congressional probes, sometimes ignored by the Justice Department, have led nowhere, and prominent lawmakers are throwing their hands in the air.

Read more: http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/cheney-gets-last-laugh-2008-06-19.html



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loveable liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:20 AM
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1. Grow a set and impeach the GD-MF-POS!!!!!!
hows that for some friggen action??
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Cambist Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:27 AM
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2. I Agree
with you 100% !!!! These guys are an absolute disgrace to the once proud Democratic Party. I am so disgusted with them I could puke !!! Impeach for god's sake !!!!!! Impeach for god's sake !!!!!! Impeach for god's sake !!!!!! Impeach for god's sake !!!!!! Impeach for god's sake !!!!!! Impeach for god's sake !!!!!! Impeach for god's sake !!!!!! Impeach for god's sake !!!!!! Impeach for god's sake !!!!!! Impeach for god's sake !!!!!!Impeach for god's sake !!!!!!Impeach for god's sake !!!!!! Impeach for god's sake !!!!!!Impeach for god's sake !!!!!!Impeach for god's sake !!!!!!Impeach for god's sake !!!!!!
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 10:02 AM
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15. Agreed. I can't say anymore because I am sick over this and all that have come before.
Serial capitulations. Serial surrender. Serial deriliction of duty.

There can be no doubt, other than violence and fear, THIS is what is felt like to live in Nazi Germany, circa 1932-34.

If anyone doubts me, they are free to read this firsthand account, which in many ways is like holding up a mirror.

http://www.amazon.com/Defying-Hitler-Memoir-Sebastian-Haffner/dp/B0013TFBNS/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1211866105&sr=8-1
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 10:54 AM
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23. It's all part of the game
Neither side wants to push the other because they don't want the same force to be used against them when the shoe is on the other foot. Democrats have lots planned for next year when they control it all.
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Riddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 11:34 AM
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28. Absolutely!!! Too bad our Democratic "leadership" doesn't have the balls to actually do it.
Edited on Fri Jun-20-08 11:34 AM by Riddler
Pelosi, Hoyer, Reid, et al are nothiing but a worthless bunch of chicken shits. Damn I hope we elect enough of a majority in November to demand change and finally get rid of these turncoat traitors and get some REAL leadership.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:29 AM
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3. Cheney won because impeachment was off the table
The one thing that would have make an obstinate office holder face consequences for his wrongdoing was taken away.

The moral of the story is: Don't try to fight tyranny with one hand tied behind your back.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:30 AM
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4. Same old shit, another day. They can't do anything about
anything apparently. Even though it's against the law or the Constitution, they just can't fucking find a way to do anything about anything.

What a useless bunch
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lordsummerisle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:37 AM
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6. You've got that right
I'm pretty disgusted with the congressional Democrats. I saw a lengthy interview with Ralph Nader on Democracy Now
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/6/18/ralph_nader_on_barack_obama_it

and was thinking "why can't the Democrats be more like this...?"
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CanonRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:34 AM
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5. Why don't they send the Seargant at Arms out to arrest the bastards?
Geez, grow a pair, will you?
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:58 AM
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12. Do you think that the Secrect Service would allow that to happen?
:shrug:
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:42 AM
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7. F You Pelosi!!!!
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:45 AM
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8. If we can get a Democratic Adm., a new Attorney General could force him to compy with the subpeonas
But that will take until 2009.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:53 AM
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9. GRRRRRRR...whad da fuck??? we got Dems w/o BALLS??? and those PUBs? they proud of the VP?
Fuck the PUBs...they have turned America into a joke...
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gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:54 AM
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10. I have an idea
Impeach the evil bastard - then arrest him.

So much for no one being above the law in America - but we all knew that already, didn't we?
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:56 AM
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11. recommend
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:59 AM
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13. Dems in Congress doing what Congressional Dems do best
Concede defeat, that is. :cry:
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 09:59 AM
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14. Disgusting!
:grr: :grr:

What I have to say about that man is not fit for public consumption. :puke: Instead, I'll just say I hope he has an MI.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 10:12 AM
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16. The next administration release those records
Since they're government property, not private.

Of course, they'd have to find them first.
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 10:43 AM
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20. The shredders are working overtime.
There's mysterious fires in his office. Hard drives get erased. They do that, you know. And if anyone says anything, a hunting trip is in your future.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 10:50 AM
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22. I'm sure you're right. What Obama needs to do
Edited on Fri Jun-20-08 10:50 AM by DavidD
as soon as he's declared the victor in November (assuming, of course, that he is the victor) is publicly offer amnesty to anyone who saves copies of incriminating documents and promising prosecution for anyone found to have helped destroy them.

Come to think of it, he shouldn't wait for the election to say that. He should say it now.
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 11:41 AM
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30. I am a State employee, and information on our computers/e-mails is PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE
and open to scrutiny at any time. What are the parameters for the Federal Gov't.?
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 10:27 AM
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17. Remind me again why I worked my ass off to elect these clowns in 2006?
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 10:31 AM
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18. "The Democrats are conceding defeat."
Get used to that phrase in the last few months. Boy, I guess I can rob my boss blind in the last week of work, shoplift, trash the office and they won't do anything because I'd only have a little time left.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 10:49 AM
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And even that's a lie. They *engineered* this defeat, as they did with all the others.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 10:42 AM
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19. the dems never fail to disappoint..
weak sauce.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 10:49 AM
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21. shame on you henry waxman! and every dem rep who lies back
and takes this bullshit.

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LiberalLovinLug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 10:56 AM
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24. F*#king cowards
” there’s not much he or anyone else can do because the administration has only a few more months left in office"

:wtf:

A 'few' is three, by my English. We've got double that.

So Cheney is managing to stonewall everyone. Wow he must be a genius. Seems to me he's simply giving congress the old "go fuck yourself", and that seems to be enough.

Does congress have NO POWERS against the executive branch? Funny, I always thought America was NOT a monarchy.

What's next? "We HAD to authorize war against Iran, Cheney just gave us no choice"
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 11:04 AM
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25. letting him go is helping criminal activity
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 11:16 AM
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26. Pelosi, good job letting him get away with everything!
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 11:29 AM
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27. For the love of the FSM
*facepalm*
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frickaline Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 11:40 AM
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29. "not much he [...] can do because the administration has only a few more months left"
well, what TOOK SO DAMN LONG.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-20-08 11:55 AM
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31. It Ain't Over 'Til The Fat Man Croaks
Cheney's going to find out how it feels to bear the mark of Cain.
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