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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 08:25 AM
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Berlin Rally Is Off-Limits for Embassy Workers
Source: Washington Post

The U.S. Embassy in Berlin has instructed Foreign Service personnel stationed there not to attend Sen. Barack Obama's public rally today, which the State Department this week labeled a "partisan political activity" prohibited under its regulations for those serving overseas.

Government employees serving in the United States are permitted to attend such events under the Hatch Act, which bars other partisan activity, such as contributing money or working in behalf of a candidate.

But "we always maintain that no U.S. government Foreign Service person overseas should be seen to be advocating one side or the other," State Department Undersecretary for Management Patrick Kennedy said, adding that "it has nothing to do with who" the candidate is.

"When a German sees you there, they're not going to think, 'Oh, he or she is on their off time.' It's 'Oh, they are a Democrat, a Republican, an independent,' God knows what," Kennedy said in an interview.

The American Foreign Service Association, the union of the diplomatic corps, objected to the ruling, calling it an "unnecessarily narrow interpretation" of the Foreign Affairs Manual. "The fact that you are working for the U.S. government overseas should not preclude political activity that you could engage in in the United States," one retired senior Foreign Service officer said.



Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/23/AR2008072303388.html?nav=rss_politics
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 08:27 AM
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1. I have $20 that says, had this been a McCain rally....
Embassy workers would have been ordered to turn-out despite the law.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 08:29 AM
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2. exactly.
this restriction is really a slap in the face, total BS, like those at this rally would even know who the workers in the US Embassy are. I hope Obama gets a very warm welcome.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:59 PM
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21. cue the whining
just watched Obama speech, broadcast through c-span 3...

crowd was clapping, shouting, hooting and hollering... huge crowds chanting Obama Obama Obama and Yes we can yes we can

tremendous....

time to cue up McCain on WHINER WATCH... waaaaaaaahhhhhh Obama got a bigger crowd... waaaaaaaaahhhhhhh...only faux news is fair and balanced to me.....
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 07:29 PM
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25. Exactly! The State Department is thinking of the
Berlin of 'old Europe'. The present Berlin population probably looks like any other urban world city.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 08:30 AM
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3. They probably would have arranged for big buses to take them there from work.
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 09:05 AM
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8. And they'd have supplied the rally with official State Dept. PortaPotties. nt
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 11:00 AM
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12. i'm not taking that bet
they would. they would have to, to have any bodies for the photo op.
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HowHasItComeToThis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 08:31 AM
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4. HITLER LAUGHS
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 08:35 AM
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5. I doubt it will stop them.
They'll put on their civies and try to blend in, but no way in hell will they all stay home.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 08:48 AM
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6. This from an executive branch that has violated the Hatch Act at every turn
Edited on Thu Jul-24-08 08:49 AM by alcibiades_mystery
Up to and including malicious politically-motivated prosecution and the firing of any prosecutor who wouldn't consider engaging in prosuction for the purpose of intervening in elections!

They really are a hilarious bunch, these GOPers.
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eagertolearn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 08:54 AM
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7. Instructions from the country of supposedly freedom????
This is so obvious what they are trying to do. This should be all over MSM. What a laugh. I hope they all go anyway!
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 09:36 AM
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9. so embassy workers can't attend any events for a congressman, senator or president?
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 09:54 AM
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10. if any attend.... THE OBAMA PUBLICITY WILL BE GREAT !!!
oh... if only they belonged to a free country.....
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 10:46 AM
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11. Riiight.
"When a German sees you there, they're not going to think, 'Oh, he or she is on their off time.' It's 'Oh, they are a Democrat, a Republican, an independent,' God knows what," Kennedy said in an interview.

I think we are watching them implode. Their self-parody is approaching Onionian levels.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 11:46 AM
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13. “Thousands Of GIs, State Dept Workers Flock To Obama In Baghdad”

Video and transcript from Daily Kos:

(Wild Cheers)

Nightline: Monday night in Baghdad, Barack Obama is in the house. The house, the U.S. Embassy and it was an amazing scene.

Barack: I just want to introduce myself, I’m Barack Obama.

(Wild Cheers)

Nightline: The troops and state department workers mobbed him. And he responded with brief remarks praising their service.

Barack: So I don’t care whether you are a Sailor, a Soldier, an Airmen, or Marine. A National Guard, a Reservist, active duty, we just want to say thank you. Read on…

If John McCain and the GOP weren’t scared before Barack Obama’s trip to the Middle East, they are now. McCain and his surrogates have been flooding the airwaves with a barrage of attacks against the Democratic candidate and looking more and more desperate. You can see the looks on the faces in the crowd, they are desperate for real leadership and a new direction for our country. Reporter Terry Moran says it all — “Barack Obama needed a big day and he got one.”

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/07/23/thousands-of-gis-state-dept-workers-flock-to-obama-in-baghdad/





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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:30 PM
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14. Condi demands that you (all of you) stay away from the moment
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:34 PM
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15. Condi, tear down these rules
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ImpeachEmAll Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:40 PM
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16. Obama at the Sieges Turm
Over 67% of Germans in that Deutsche Welle article would vote
for Obama for US president.  Even crazier is that a majority
of Germans would vote for Obama as Chancellor of Germany!!!
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,3509783,00.html
Sympathetic Canadian
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:46 PM
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17. They hate us for our freedoms.....Lol
Freedom isn't free
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:47 PM
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18. Condi - Queen of Dimplomacy
Gott - what a vile disgrace that 'woman' is.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 06:30 PM
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24. just heard from a good source---this isn't Condi's rule, it's State Dept's
IOW, it's King Gorge and Dickhead's rule that Condi's carrying out. I know about the Hatch Act but how is it political to go listen to a candidate's speech?

I would have called in sick and worn a disguise to the rally if I were a state dept. employee in Berlin today.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:56 PM
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19. Did they issue similar warnings to embassy workers during ?McCain's visit to S America?
Just who's engaging in "partisan political activity" here?
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 12:58 PM
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20. What a load of crap.
When I worked at the IRS, we were not allowed to wear buttons etc or advocate for a candidate DURING WORK HOURS.

The Hatch Act does not preclude you from working for candidates, donating time or money, you are just not allowed to do it on work time.

Embassy workers do not work 24 hours a day. They also have off time. They are civil servants like everyone else, they just happen to be doing it in a foreign country.
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 01:28 PM
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22. Amen....
what a better way to demonstrate how our democracy works. Actually, the reason I left the Army was that, while I was sworn to uphold the Constitution, the first thing I gave up was my Constitutional rights under the law (you are under the JAG-totally different)
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 01:38 PM
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23. Dan Senor: Condoleezza Rice Is Pursuing the VP Spot (ABC / April 08)
April 06, 2008 11:48 AM

ABC News' Mary Bruce Reports: Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is actively courting the vice presidential nomination, Republican strategist Dan Senor said. “Condi Rice has been actively, actually in recent weeks, campaigning for this,” Senor said this morning on “This Week with George Stephanopoulos.” According to Senor, Rice has been cozying up to the Republican elite ... http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/04/dan-senor-condo.html
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-24-08 09:36 PM
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26. Let Her Have It--Nothing Will Finish Off McCain Faster!
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