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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 01:39 PM
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Buyers of bogus degrees named
Source: Spokesman-Review (Spokane, Wash.)

Hundreds of people working in the military, government and education are on a list of almost 10,000 people who spent $7.3 million buying phony and counterfeit high school and college degrees from a Spokane diploma mill.

The complete list of buyers, which the U.S. Department of Justice has refused to release to the public, has been obtained by The Spokesman-Review.

... Also on the list are William R. Church, a senior military adviser working in the White House, and George Michael Navadel, a U.S. State Department computer systems negotiator, who paid $5,400 for a doctorate in network engineering.

... The U.S. Department of Homeland Security, it was learned Monday, is considering pursuing charges against an estimated 300 federal employees who bought bogus or counterfeit degrees.


Read more: http://www.spokesmanreview.com/breaking/story.asp?ID=15898
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 01:43 PM
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1. Monica Goodling, Alberto Gonzales, et al?
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 03:35 PM
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21. Goodling definitely
Regent University is no more a school than my sphincter
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 03:41 PM
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22. And yours has tighter enrollment, I imagine.
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 01:44 PM
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2. I heard some of those websites really go out of the way
Some even have campus photos, faculty photos, semester schedules, the whole works you'd find on most university websites
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 01:47 PM
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4. You aren't saying these people didn't KNOW what they were doing,
are you?
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 01:58 PM
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8. Not at all
It's set up mainly to fool prospective employers or family members, the government, etc. I forgot to add that some even had a phone number to call. I'm not sure where you have to go first, those are just the front. It's more well known now and probably harder to get away with.
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Dangerously Amused Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 01:46 PM
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3. Pretty much everyone who went to Patrick Henry College bought a fake degree.
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 01:47 PM
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5. Bush got one of those from Harvard, didn't he?
:)
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 01:52 PM
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7. Yes and then his daddy bought him one from Yale.
There goes the Ivy League. After seeing Bush in action. Suddenly that community college doesn't look so bad.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 02:54 PM
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18. yale
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 01:52 PM
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6. Wow...I just looked over the list. You can BUY a PhD?
Unbelievable.

And these people are TEACHING??

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 01:59 PM
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9. When did the phony degree industry get started?
When did people stop having to just make stuff up, and instead could buy backed-up lies from a private company?

Hm.
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 02:12 PM
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10. That or....
Why don't they just get some fancy diploma or award type stationary and print up their own stuff? I should make myself some nice and fancy diplomas for every type of job out there. A medical diploma, a business diploma, etc.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 02:19 PM
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12. I didn't spend six hours photoshopping my diploma just to be called 'Mr.'
You can address me as 'DOCTOR' Phony, thankyouverymuch.
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 02:23 PM
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13. Most of the time we have to tell our doctors what's wrong with us anyways
So why not get paid like one?:shrug:
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SomeGuyInEagan Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 02:44 PM
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17. Nice ... while you're at it, dummy up some CEUs for Photoshop
Oh, go ahead and make it a degree. You've earned it (through your "life experience").
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diddlysquat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 02:57 PM
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19. LOL
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 05:30 PM
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28. When You Started Needing an MBA to Work in the Mail Room
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 05:34 PM
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29. Are they so cheap that those aspiring to work in the mail room can afford them?
I wouldn't think so... but... ?
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 02:18 PM
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11.  in 2006 the feds found government employees
were using st regis university and other mills......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Regis_University
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 02:35 PM
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14. Ah, Saint Regis, and its' sister college Saint Kathi Lee
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zelda7743 Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 09:30 PM
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32. Well, good heavens
I'm glad that wikipedia made the distinction between this diploma mill and the actual Regis University in Denver, from which I will receive my MBA next month. I've worked too damn hard on the thing to be accused of buying it.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 02:37 PM
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15. This may explain a whole lot...
fake degrees, inexperienced youth put in charge of whole organizations.
then again, since Bush is pretty much a poster child for BS, why should the WH care about all the BS people they hired?
Please tell me Regent Collage is not credentialed.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 03:45 PM
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23. 300 of them in Department of Homeland Security...
Amazing.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 02:40 PM
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16. Wow!!! $5,400 for a PhD? That's cheap!
I paid considerably more for mine, but was unable to find a career in my field, so now I'm working a podunkesque job while paying off my student loans.
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 03:33 PM
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20. Good, good, good, good!
Bust all of the limey bastards.
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 04:00 PM
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24. As someone who has worked her ass off
for the past 6 years to earn her B.A. and now her M.A. from UNC-Greensboro (Cum Laude)....


THIS PISSES ME THE FUCK OFF.


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tpsbmam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 04:03 PM
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25. Ditto.....a total of 9 years for BS through Ph.D. ......
And every time I was hired, the Ph.D. degree was checked. How pathetic that our government doesn't bother to do that. Not surprising, but pathetic.
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 04:05 PM
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26. and I'll be spending the next 20 years paying this shit off too
:steamingmad:

:nuke:
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 04:58 PM
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27. This explains everything. Katrina, and everything.
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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 05:44 PM
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30. In D.C., they have these degree sweeps about every ten years, its always the same, surprise & shock.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 06:29 PM
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31. Here's the list - it lists people from all over the world who got fake degrees/HS diplomas
Edited on Tue Jul-29-08 06:30 PM by superconnected
from many different US diploma mill schools.

http://www.spokesmanreview.com/data/diploma-mill/
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entanglement Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 10:17 PM
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33. Counterfeit high school diplomas?
:wtf:
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