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rainbow4321 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:04 AM Original message |
Suspect in 2001 anthrax attacks kills himself |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:06 AM Response to Original message |
1. anybody remember the Pat Leahy - Mukasey exchange on this. |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:07 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. No. Missed that one. Fill me in? |
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Ellipsis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:11 AM Response to Reply #3 |
9. here ya go |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:16 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. thanks for pulling that up. nt |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 10:27 AM Response to Reply #9 |
164. That makes the suicide very suspect |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 05:10 PM Response to Reply #164 |
213. It looks like a cleanup of all the witnesses to the crime |
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LeighAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 06:29 PM Response to Reply #164 |
217. Yep. I'll bet he was murdered and it was made to look like suicide |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 12:35 AM Response to Reply #9 |
243. They know but can't do anything because their hands are tied by powerful dangerous people. |
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Ellipsis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 01:57 AM Response to Reply #243 |
245. I just saw Michael Clayton tonight... |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:07 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. No. What was it? |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:12 AM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Here's the link - from the oversight hearing July 9 |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:54 AM Response to Reply #11 |
55. Thank you! Since I don't have C-span II on my TV, I now miss a lot of stuff --- |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #55 |
205. I'm sorry, but we need more evidence to implicate the White House... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 09:51 PM Response to Reply #205 |
228. What . . . ??? |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 10:31 PM Response to Reply #228 |
232. I'm not covering anything up... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:01 PM Response to Reply #232 |
233. You mean you're trying to be provocative . . . ? |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 12:47 AM Response to Reply #233 |
244. Usually I'm on the side of pushing for the conspiracy... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 03:47 PM Response to Reply #244 |
247. Coincidence theories are more "tinfoil" these days . . .. |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #247 |
249. It should be very clear by now that there was a conspiracy behind Oswald... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #249 |
250. Still . . . |
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katty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:25 AM Response to Reply #11 |
178. yeah, alot going on bts - it always seems to be a 'suicide' |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:06 AM Response to Original message |
2. Who, What, When, Where? |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:15 AM Response to Reply #2 |
13. Dunno. It's easy to believe that the type of coward who would mail murder rather than |
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Cobalt-60 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 02:00 AM Response to Reply #13 |
76. Remeber Cheney's revision of the anthrax attacks? |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:34 AM Response to Reply #76 |
184. Cheney was lying, but I can't say they did it. |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 10:24 AM Response to Reply #13 |
163. Or is this a case of a convenient suicide being used to wrap up the |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #163 |
186. I read it in detail. |
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DogPoundPup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 08:59 PM Response to Reply #186 |
227. And yet the FBI never investigated the one man actually CAUGHT ON THE SECURITY SYSTEM |
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UndertheOcean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #13 |
195. So suicide is a cowardly act ? thank you for being so judgemental |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #195 |
199. Check out the mirror when you accuse someone of being judgemental. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 08:18 AM Response to Reply #2 |
112. Right - another convenient 'suicide' to CLOSE ANOTHER FOCKING CASE FOR BFEE. |
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bigworld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
5. The guy seems to have known his stuff |
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katty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #5 |
188. hmmmm... the man who knew too much |
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Seen the light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:09 AM Response to Original message |
6. Oh. My. GOD. |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:09 AM Response to Original message |
7. Recent Advances in the Development of an Improved, Human Anthrax Vaccine |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:16 AM Response to Reply #7 |
16. He complained to the Government in 2001 for bad Anthrax Bio Labs |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:18 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. :-() |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 01:10 AM Response to Reply #16 |
66. The FBI sure looks dumb. |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 10:53 AM Response to Reply #66 |
169. A little off-topic, but who the hell ever cleared Hatfill to work |
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FormerOstrich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 08:01 AM Response to Reply #16 |
107. Interesting..... |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 08:58 AM Response to Reply #107 |
139. Operation Noble Eagle |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 01:00 AM Response to Reply #7 |
60. This from someone on the internet tubes in 2004... |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 01:18 AM Response to Reply #60 |
70. This guy was a real piece of work. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 05:13 AM Response to Reply #70 |
84. They killed soldiers with that garbage, didn't they? |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:24 AM Response to Reply #60 |
177. Two that come to mind are Bayer and SAIC. |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
8. Suicide? Or |
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Just-plain-Kathy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:53 AM Response to Reply #8 |
52. My thought exactly. ..n/t |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:57 AM Response to Reply #8 |
58. I'm with you on that . . . the guy has been a "suspect" for 7 years . . . !!!! |
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Winston. (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 01:01 AM Response to Reply #8 |
61. Cheney gets anti-antrax cipro one week before first antrax attack. |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #61 |
200. Cipro producer -- BioPort -- Owned by Admiral Crowe, Carlyle Group, Bin Laden Family |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #200 |
202. Remember "suicide" of Dr. David Kelly? BioPort is spin-off of Porton Down, UK bioweapons plant |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #200 |
204. !!! |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 03:21 PM Response to Reply #200 |
207. o.m.g! |
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Duppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 03:49 AM Response to Reply #8 |
80. bingo. nt |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 05:14 AM Response to Reply #8 |
85. Ah, the convenient suicide. |
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debunkthelies (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 05:04 PM Response to Reply #85 |
212. I Wonder |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 03:25 PM Response to Reply #212 |
246. The CSI shows have been showing ways to detect phony hanging suicides. |
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judasdisney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 06:12 AM Response to Reply #8 |
93. Tylenol is ALWAYS the first choice for suicidal top bioweapons experts |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 08:41 AM Response to Reply #93 |
130. It was Tylenol with Codine. That can be lethal, |
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Fovea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 09:04 AM Response to Reply #130 |
141. Even among opiates |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 09:27 AM Response to Reply #141 |
149. He's attacking two organs you can't live without. Liver and lungs. |
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Fovea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 10:45 PM Response to Reply #149 |
248. But the hepatic damage takes days to kill. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 08:42 AM Response to Reply #93 |
131. Codeine overdose... tylenol is just along for the 'ride' |
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geomon666 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 09:25 AM Response to Reply #93 |
148. That's what I was thinking. |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 10:02 AM Response to Reply #93 |
155. AND for murderers, for that matter! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-03-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #155 |
251. True . . . not good for a suicide - not good for a murder --- so what gives? |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 06:37 AM Response to Reply #8 |
94. Hmmm. Now he will never be able to reveal who may have put himup to it. |
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Phred42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 08:52 AM Response to Reply #8 |
138. I'm wondering about that too |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
10. Again? File this in the tin foil Hard drive for sure. |
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rainbow4321 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:32 AM Response to Reply #10 |
37. The steps in Fort Detrick's 2002 anthrax breach |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:13 AM Response to Original message |
12. An anthrax scientist takes Tylenol to kill himself. Hmm. |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:18 AM Response to Reply #12 |
19. He could have picked something .......... nobody could trace |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:34 AM Response to Reply #12 |
38. tylenol is a common choice for suicide for those in the know... |
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trashcanistanista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 01:56 AM Response to Reply #38 |
75. Tylenol is a common method , as well as aspirin. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 08:52 AM Response to Reply #75 |
137. You are talking tylenol only... this was tylenol with codeine |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 06:58 PM Response to Reply #75 |
219. yes tylenol is a common choice for the unknowing |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 08:43 AM Response to Reply #38 |
132. It was tylenol with Codine. It's sold as Tylenol 1, 2, or 3. Depending upon how much codine is in it |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 12:06 AM Response to Reply #132 |
236. The army at the fort where the anthrax originated and the bogus reports came from |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 12:08 AM Response to Reply #236 |
237. That same army post did the autopsy? Ivins helped a senator pull it off. |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 12:09 AM Response to Reply #237 |
238. ABC knows who perpetrated the attacks but are covering for them. |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 12:12 AM Response to Reply #238 |
240. check www.glenngreenwald@salon.com to see ABC knows now who it was. |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:15 AM Response to Original message |
14. unsettling to say the least...... eom |
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cbc5g (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:16 AM Response to Original message |
17. Yep he was suicided. Now that their "prime suspect" is dead..no more investigating! |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:20 AM Response to Reply #17 |
24. Totally agree |
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givemebackmycountry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:17 AM Response to Original message |
18. Verrrrrry Interesting..... |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:18 AM Response to Original message |
21. Question is: Who put him up to the attacks if he indeed was the sender? |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:19 AM Response to Original message |
22. So, will that be the end of it? |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 07:40 AM Response to Reply #22 |
102. For all we know he sent a mass mailer to everyone he wants to off |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 12:12 AM Response to Reply #22 |
239. case closed. nothing more to see here. move along now. |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:20 AM Response to Original message |
23. Link above and off LATimes home page not working? |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:22 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Works for me |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:25 AM Response to Reply #25 |
31. works in IE, not Firefox. nt |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 05:16 AM Response to Reply #31 |
86. I use the Firefox IE Tab for sites like that. |
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rainbow4321 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:26 AM Response to Reply #23 |
33. It was hit or miss for me, so I found another link, same story |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:31 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. LATimes posted 4 hours ago and it's not picked up by AP, NYT, WP... |
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rainbow4321 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:35 AM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Yep.....the news was probably supposed to be a Friday night take out the trash |
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tbyg52 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 05:43 AM Response to Reply #35 |
89. It was the lead story on my AM radio this AM |
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Frisbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:23 AM Response to Original message |
26. Is it just me... |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:25 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. I shot myself in the chest as that Air Force General did |
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file83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 07:36 PM Response to Reply #27 |
223. what about those 5 other Air Force members tied to the nuke case all dead now... |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 07:42 AM Response to Reply #26 |
103. Even if they're legit suicides, |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 09:08 AM Response to Reply #26 |
144. i'm tempted to make a button- if they tell you i committed suicide, its a lie. |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 10:15 AM Response to Reply #144 |
159. Right. Let's be objective: he died. How do we know it was suicide? nt |
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mikelgb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 10:45 AM Response to Reply #144 |
167. how about a tatoo? |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #167 |
173. really |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:25 AM Response to Original message |
28. Amazing the news the MSM determines the public not need to know about... |
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Seen the light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:25 AM Response to Original message |
29. Does anyone have the list of people involved in bioweapons that have committed suicide? |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:26 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Not right now .... but it is very long... it will be brought up |
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Seen the light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:48 AM Response to Reply #32 |
49. Found it |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:51 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. includes an anthrax-related one |
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Seen the light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:54 AM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Go down and click on the link for those prior to 2003 |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:55 AM Response to Reply #53 |
56. added another link on edit above |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 01:17 AM Response to Reply #53 |
69. ah, several more anthrax ones on there, some on that other link, some new |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:54 AM Response to Reply #49 |
54. MAJOR LINK TO ALL SCIENTISTS THAT HAVE DIED SUSPICIOUSLY |
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skoalyman (751 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 01:08 AM Response to Reply #49 |
64. he had a good heart, but it "gave out". |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 06:42 AM Response to Reply #49 |
95. This is a list that would scare any scientist. |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 09:48 AM Response to Reply #29 |
151. A question about the development of genetically targeted bioweapons |
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14thColony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 10:21 AM Response to Reply #151 |
162. But... |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 10:37 AM Response to Reply #162 |
166. Very different circumstances |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:25 AM Response to Original message |
30. Not sure if I believe this or not. |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:29 AM Response to Original message |
34. comments from his brother |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:40 AM Response to Reply #34 |
43. "Last year" . . . ? |
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FormerOstrich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 06:05 AM Response to Reply #34 |
91. yep, he sort of buckled from |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:31 AM Response to Original message |
36. Another chapter closes in The Life and Times of Dick Cheney |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:34 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Tylenol.......... used by one the most brilliant minds |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 08:45 AM Response to Reply #39 |
133. Tylenol with codine actually. It's a commonly prescribed pain killer. |
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Night_Nurse (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 09:53 AM Response to Reply #133 |
154. Yes, but... |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 10:06 AM Response to Reply #39 |
157. Yup, seems like a "brilliant" way to murder someone. nt |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:38 AM Response to Original message |
41. This guy has been a "suspect" for 7 years . . .???!!!! |
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rainbow4321 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:40 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. "Dr. Ivins told Army investigators he did the unauthorized testing " |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:43 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Motive............ what was his motive? |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 01:27 AM Response to Reply #46 |
73. I believe there's motive. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 01:10 AM Response to Reply #44 |
67. I don't think I'm near understanding this . . . |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:27 AM Response to Reply #41 |
179. Bushco hadn't installed Presidential Directive 51 yet. |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:33 AM Response to Reply #41 |
183. First I'd heard of it too |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 07:01 PM Response to Reply #41 |
220. hatfill was VERY well paid to be the upfront "patsy" |
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Norrin Radd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:39 AM Response to Original message |
42. Suicide...at the age of 62? |
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Alcibiades (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 07:52 AM Response to Reply #42 |
104. What's his age got to do with it? |
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Norrin Radd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:33 PM Response to Reply #104 |
193. His age is just one of the factors that makes me suspicious. I never said it was the only one. |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:43 AM Response to Original message |
45. I am officially freaked. |
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Newsjock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:44 AM Response to Original message |
47. It's now a big red banner at cnn.com |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:47 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. MSNBC grabbed it too - but very abbreviated version |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 01:02 AM Response to Reply #47 |
62. WashPost now with some more info |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 01:06 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. edit - found the journal article |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:51 AM Response to Original message |
51. Cheney wants to use fake Iranian troops (Navy seals) to kill to go to war with Iran |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 01:19 AM Response to Reply #51 |
71. thank you . . . love Hersh--!! Right . . "highschool" . .. |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:56 AM Response to Original message |
57. 3 suicides thise week |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 01:20 AM Response to Reply #57 |
72. Three that we know about, so far . . . Looks like they're cleaning up -- |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:59 AM Response to Original message |
59. Apparent suicide. Unreal, just like David Kelly? |
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Ellipsis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 01:10 AM Response to Original message |
65. FBI Images of original letters... |
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Winston. (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 02:24 AM Response to Reply #65 |
78. "Allah is Great" |
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jaysunb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 01:15 AM Response to Original message |
68. Sorry. I aint buying . |
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file83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 07:38 PM Response to Reply #68 |
224. Me neither...what do they think we were born yesterday? |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 01:48 AM Response to Original message |
74. LA Times - is this an updated version of story? |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 02:04 AM Response to Original message |
77. recommend |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 03:05 AM Response to Original message |
79. Oh, what a tragic "suicide". Crying here. |
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MrModerate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 04:15 AM Response to Original message |
81. Damn! I lived across the street from Ft. Dietrick . . . |
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 04:25 AM Response to Original message |
82. Does anyone else think all that's missing from this administration is the end piano theme to "Layla" |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 10:27 AM Response to Reply #82 |
165. One of the best closings in a movie ever.... |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 04:33 AM Response to Original message |
83. Government, burned by Hatfill, searches for person who A) can in... |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 09:09 AM Response to Reply #83 |
145. yeah, hard to believe the anthrax killer wouldn't be watched 24-7. nt |
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bos1 (997 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 05:20 AM Response to Original message |
87. Anthrax terrorism was an INSIDE JOB |
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Doug.Goodall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 05:23 AM Response to Original message |
88. Bruce Ivins took (or was he sent) to the grave information about the Bush purges |
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rox63 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 05:50 AM Response to Original message |
90. Hey, they just mentioned this story on my local morning news |
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judasdisney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 06:08 AM Response to Original message |
92. 3 new suicides in 3 days |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 06:45 AM Response to Reply #92 |
96. "Suicided", a word that was coined for BushCO. |
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FormerOstrich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 07:13 AM Response to Original message |
97. Report: Anthrax attacks suspect takes own life |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 07:13 AM Response to Reply #97 |
98. How convenient |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 07:13 AM Response to Reply #98 |
100. Yes. |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 07:13 AM Response to Reply #97 |
99. So they finally found someone to pin it on. |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 07:23 AM Response to Reply #99 |
101. Wonder how tight this fellow was with Judith Miller and Jerome Hauer? |
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DWilliamsamh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 08:00 AM Response to Original message |
105. The saddest part is that the Bush Admin has done so much dirt I don't think this was suicide. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 10:20 AM Response to Reply #105 |
160. So now Leahy has his answer . . . "the guy who did it killed himself" . . . !!! |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 08:01 AM Response to Original message |
106. Greek Tragedy Alert: Sounds like even his brother thought he was guilty. |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 08:07 AM Response to Reply #106 |
109. Side Note: Is anyone keeping the "Bush Body Count" |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:11 PM Response to Reply #109 |
191. bush body count |
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Botany (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
108. This might have to do w/ Speaker Pelosi's failure to act on bush / Cheney's |
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blackspade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 08:15 AM Response to Original message |
110. Well, that was convenient. |
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pleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 08:17 AM Response to Original message |
111. Another "suicide"? n/t |
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LiberalEsto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 08:22 AM Response to Original message |
113. How con-VEE-nient! |
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MasonJar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 08:30 AM Response to Original message |
114. How convenient for Bushco. Another death. No trial where truths |
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masmdu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
115. Anthrax scientist commits suicide as FBI closes in |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 08:32 AM Response to Reply #115 |
116. how very...convenient |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 08:32 AM Response to Reply #116 |
126. We wouldn't want to have to take this to trial, would we? |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 08:32 AM Response to Reply #115 |
117. Maybe himself just like the unibomber. |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 08:32 AM Response to Reply #115 |
118. I wonder who ordered him suicided? n/t |
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Tesla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 08:32 AM Response to Reply #115 |
119. I wish people would quit taking anti-depressants |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 08:32 AM Response to Reply #119 |
122. Yes, because depressed people are not at risk for suicide unless they take pills. |
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global1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 08:32 AM Response to Reply #119 |
128. Wow - Where Did You Get The Pirates Pic?..... |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 08:32 AM Response to Reply #115 |
120. Are we going to actually see any evidence? |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 08:32 AM Response to Reply #115 |
121. Anybody know what happened with the Tuberculosis guy? |
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davidwparker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 08:32 AM Response to Reply #115 |
123. "who writes this stuff" - they finally got him just as the headlines about |
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Botany (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 08:48 AM Response to Reply #123 |
134. Wanna bet that bin Laden turns up dead before the election? |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 09:14 AM Response to Reply #134 |
146. seems more and more likely, doesn't it? |
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Botany (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 09:24 AM Response to Reply #146 |
147. and he will kill himself by huge explosion just as "troops" are closing in .... |
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davidwparker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #134 |
203. I'm afraid to take that bet. :-)) |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 08:32 AM Response to Reply #115 |
124. Another sign that the Rethugs think the Dems will win big this Fall...n/t |
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CanonRay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 08:32 AM Response to Reply #115 |
125. What a crock of shit |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 09:02 AM Response to Reply #125 |
140. Absolutely. A five-year-old can see that. nt |
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global1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 08:32 AM Response to Reply #115 |
127. Just Tying Up The Loose Ends Folks...... |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 08:50 AM Response to Reply #115 |
136. FBI was "closing in" |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
129. The investigation hit a dead end. Case Closed. |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 08:50 AM Response to Original message |
135. cleaning up before they leave? ----> |
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kma3346 (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 09:49 AM Response to Reply #135 |
152. Yes, they're in overdrive now |
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Rainbowreflect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
142. Even my husband, who has no tin-foil hat, agreed with my reaction |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
143. Add it to a million other 'coincidences' that just happen so the truth never sees the light of day |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 12:22 AM Response to Reply #143 |
241. Well - at least they LEARNED from their previous "mistakes" during Nixon's term... |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
150. Case closed. |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:28 AM Response to Reply #150 |
180. Yep. Just another "lone nut". |
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Willo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
153. John Robert's phone interview with the brother this morning was hysterical. |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
156. BBC news item on it - |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
158. Was Ivins familiar with any reporters? |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 10:50 AM Response to Reply #158 |
168. maybe his lawyer better be careful too - quoted in NY Times: |
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Kablooie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
161. Wouldn't be surprised if the Bushies just wanted a fall guy so they could close the case. |
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RufusTFirefly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 10:57 AM Response to Reply #161 |
170. Exactly. Now this old news can be called "old news." Time to move on. |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
171. Very convenient |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
172. So the threat of the death penalty made this guy kill himself?? |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
174. I suspect this really was a suicide, and NOT a BushCheney cover-up... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
175. Deleted message |
suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
176. Making me think of the song "Harrowdown Hill" |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
181. I'm not buying it. |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
182. UPDATE:"Three sourcess...said the case soon will be CLOSED because a threat no longer exists. " |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #182 |
187. lol dry cleaning |
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Maine-i-acs (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
185. Cause of death is ironclad 3 days after the death ... with no autopsy? |
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PATRICK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 05:21 PM Response to Reply #185 |
215. Or simpler than that |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-02-08 12:24 AM Response to Reply #185 |
242. not buried - cremated... |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
189. convenient nt |
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guruoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
190. Convenient suicide= guilty= case closed |
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Jackanapes (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
192. Anthrax! |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
194. This may totally unrelated--but the comments on all the information that DIDN'T come out at trial |
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file83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 07:40 PM Response to Reply #194 |
225. I thought of Ken Lay too - amazing how suicides are keeping so many secrets. |
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mountainvue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
196. Another dead scientist. n/t |
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ThoughtCriminal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
197. Never discussed - why the target list |
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
198. Wiki on Bruce Ivins |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 03:27 PM Response to Reply #198 |
208. Thanks for posting that link. |
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kerry-is-my-prez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
201. Interesting article: "How Bruce Ivins Toppled Saddam"- claimed it was same anthrax as Saddam used... |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
206. Was Ivins part of Phillip Zack's self-named KKK? i.e. Kamel Klub Kids, whatever |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 04:00 PM Response to Reply #206 |
211. Yeah, Marion Rippey (sp?) was one of the others with Zack but it's unknown... |
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Twist_U_Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
209. This belongs in the dungeon. If its being played up by MSM its a fraud |
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nebenaube (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 06:13 PM Response to Reply #209 |
216. kind of clueless eh? n/t |
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galledgoblin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
210. either the justice department is completely incompetent or it's a cover-up |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 10:05 PM Response to Reply #210 |
229. We don't have a Justice Dept. There's a Just Us Dept. that has replaced it. nt |
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Snazzy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
214. How a company cashed in on anthrax |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
218. odd manner of suicide from a knowledgeable person |
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Geek_Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
221. KO reporting on this now |
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MadrasT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
222. Suicide. My. Ass. |
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Phred42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
226. BS. The REich is desperatly attempting to tie up all loose |
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LuckyLib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 10:24 PM Response to Original message |
230. He wouldn't be the first scientist who was a flat out nut case. |
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OKthatsIT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-01-08 10:26 PM Response to Reply #230 |
231. with an answer like that one...I could guess who you work for |
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