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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 05:26 AM
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Climate protesters set sights on biofuel company
Source: Kent News

Up to 100 climate camp activists are expected to blockade a Kent agro-fuels firm today in the first of two days of mass action, Yourmedway reports.

The eco-campaigners were expected to leave the Camp for Climate Action site yesterday and chain themselves to the unnamed company’s main gates this morning.

One of the organisers of today’s action, who only gave his name as Peter, refused to reveal precise details of their plans due to the risk of police intervention.

Speaking exclusively to Yourmedway on Monday he said: “Between 50 and 100 people from the camp will carry out direct action against an agro-fuels firm somewhere in Kent on Wednesday.

Read more: http://www.kentnews.co.uk/kent-news/Climate-protesters-set-sights-on-biofuel-company-newsinkent15157.aspx



Climate Camp website: http://www.climatecamp.org.uk/
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 06:31 AM
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1. While we do need to switch from land based biofuel crops to water based biofuel crops
I still think that this group is out of line. They bemoan the extensive use of fossil fuels, and declare that we've absolutely got to use less fossil fuels, they also blast the alternatives of biodiesel and ethanol. Their solution is simply use less, which is all well and good up to a point. But we simply can't stop using fuel for travel, and thus the need for biofuels.

Sure, let's switch away from landbased biofuel crops, but other than that, we should switch as quickly and completely away from fossil fuels as quickly as possible, which means that we need to get into biofuels, at least as an interim solution.
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 08:30 AM
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2. It's not so much can't as don't want to
It's physically possible to travel without fossil fuels or biofuels in any sort of concentrated form, but we just don't want to.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 08:33 AM
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3. Travel in what manner?
Fly, haul heavy loads such as a boat or a big rig, etc??
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 08:54 AM
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4. It all depends on how you set things up
We don't have to fly, or haul heavy loads such as boats, big rigs, or etc. We wouldn't do any of those things if the external energy weren't so cheap. But the cheaper the external energy, the greater impact we have environmentally, since it allows us to fly(which evolutionarily speaking, we actually can't physically do), or have boats miles and miles away from any coast, or produce such mass quantities of products as to require a big rig to transport them to every place possible so that everyone can have everything anytime they want it.

You have to give something to get something. If we want to keep flying, and hauling boats and big rigs, and whatever etc happens to be at any given moment, then we actually can't decrease any impact we have on the planet. I'm sure we want to decrease the impact, but we can't if we continue to give ourselves the ability(and increase that ability) to do what has been increasing our impact over thousands of years.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 09:01 AM
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5. Ha..
I fly probably once a week, mostly for business, but I try to hit a different continent every year for vacation. I think its good for people to travel to other cultures to gain perspective and to gain an appreciation for the Earth as a whole. This past week, I traveled for my annual deep sea fishing trip. We went 70 miles off the coast and caught quite a few tuna. There are things that you can learn on that beautiful open water, that you just can't learn anywhere else. I think we can be smart about our fuel usage and still maintain a decent lifestyle.
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