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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 10:57 AM Original message |
Russia aiming to take over Georgia - Saakashvili (has spoken w/ * and signalled his "full support") |
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frankieT (375 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
1. Saakashvili is full of shit |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 11:27 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Yeah Countries should just let territories declare independence |
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Arctic Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Maybe the people of the region should be able to |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 12:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Putin is doing a powerplay here |
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Arctic Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #8 |
22. Russian heyday? Ossetia isn't what you would call an immense |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. I don't think he has any plans on stopping at Ossetia |
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Arctic Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Russia may be flexing their muscles |
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Dead_Parrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 06:55 PM Response to Reply #30 |
53. I think Gulf war 1 might be good parallel |
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The Croquist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 12:38 PM Response to Reply #4 |
16. Like Chechnya |
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Arctic Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 02:04 PM Response to Reply #16 |
29. Probably no more then we are of Afghani or Iraqi |
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SpikeTss (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 11:37 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. It was already answered |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 12:02 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Ironic |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 12:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. Or Kosovo? |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 12:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. I'm from Michigan originally. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 12:31 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. I'm from PA |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 01:13 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. So long as you include the upper Midwest, I'm in! n/t |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 01:15 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Michigan can come |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 01:18 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Well, maybe the northern parts of those states could pull a Kosovo or S. Osettia and secede. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 01:20 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. The middle part of PA is |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. I used to live in Mechanicsburg west of Harrisburg. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 01:46 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. They aren't bad people |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 02:08 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. When I stood outside the polling place in 2004 (working for the Dems), |
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frankieT (375 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #3 |
13. in fact south ossetia was always free from georgian rule |
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rayofreason (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 02:21 PM Response to Reply #13 |
34. Apologist for Russian aggression. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 02:34 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. I'm sure the oil and gas pipelines |
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rayofreason (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 02:39 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. The better to squeeze the EU... |
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nebenaube (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 05:44 PM Response to Reply #34 |
46. bullshit propaganda and revisionist history.... n/t |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 03:53 PM Response to Reply #3 |
38. More like immigrants into an area deciding to take it for their home country. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 11:37 AM Response to Reply #1 |
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rayofreason (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
32. "Russia is not interested in Georgia"??? |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 02:15 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Wasn't the German population in the Sudatenland |
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rayofreason (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 02:22 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Yep... |
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frankieT (375 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 04:58 PM Response to Reply #33 |
41. oh you know when you use examples try to think a little before |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 05:04 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. I never said Nazi |
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frankieT (375 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 05:15 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. i find the example a little bit too oriented but OK |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 05:42 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. It isn't over yet |
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frankieT (375 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 06:24 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. maybe but for now all that speak is pure speculation |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 06:29 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. The people in that region declared independence |
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frankieT (375 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 06:51 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. A more adequate comparison would be Serbia vs Kosovo backed by NATO |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 06:52 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. True Chechnya had no friends to help them |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 04:54 PM Response to Reply #32 |
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SpikeTss (308 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
2. War criminals among themselves |
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fedsron2us (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 04:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
39. The leaders lie while the people die |
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ckramer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
7. Putin got to use some expired ammunition, didn't he? |
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UpInArms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
14. Flashback to May 15, 2001 |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
15. Lavrov told Rice Georgian leader "must go"--US envoy |
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frankieT (375 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. leave to the georgians to decide their leader. |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
18. Lavrov tells Rice about Georgia’s numerous war crimes in S Ossetia. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. After Russia's own little war crimes in one of their break away provinces |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 01:40 PM Response to Reply #19 |
27. Yes, they really distinguished themselves in Chechnya. |
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frankieT (375 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 06:15 PM Response to Reply #19 |
48. If russia hasn't the right to denounce georgian atrocities who does ? |
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ButterflyBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
44. I doubt Russia goes all the way in occupying all of Georgia |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-10-08 05:50 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Don't need to occupy |
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