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DogPoundPup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 08:46 PM
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Bush: Russian response to Georgia "disproportionate"
Source: Reuters

BEIJING (Reuters) - President George W. Bush said on Monday he had expressed grave concern to Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin about what Bush called Russia's "disproportionate response" against Georgia in the South Ossetia conflict.

Bush, in an interview with NBC Sports on his final day at the Beijing Olympics, said that in a discussion with Putin on Friday at the Games he had told the Russian leader, "This violence is unacceptable" and had urged that all troops return to the August 6 "status quo ante."

"I was very firm with Vladimir Putin," Bush said. He said he made similar comments in a phone call with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev.

*entire article posted in these 3 paragraphs

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN1029880820080811?rpc=401&
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 08:49 PM
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1. didn't violence break out before August 6?
:shrug:

Bush is wrong in two languages now.
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 08:50 PM
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2. And he knows what he's talking about when he references
"disproportionate" responses! Gee georgie, maybe if you weren't such a fucking cowboy during your reign of terrible, other countries would still listen to what we have to say. What a douchebag :grr:
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 08:54 PM
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3. Yep, I'll bet he wants the status quo ante now.
That's what happens when you draw to an inside straight.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 08:57 PM
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4. The great LIAR has spoken!
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 08:59 PM
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5. If memory serves me right, wasn't it the US
that coined the phrase "shock and awe". Wasn't it the US military spokespeople salivating over the amount of bombs and cruise missiles we were going to use on Iraq. Wasn't it the US that used banned and outlawed munitions in Iraq.
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nebenaube Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 03:41 PM
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34. actually...
the doctrine derives from the term "Blitzkrieg". I probably misspelled it but who really gives a damn?
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 09:14 PM
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6. I do not believe they will do anything. It is all talk. If we get mixed up
in this personally we will most likely just prolong the worst and we will once again be arguing with most of EU. *ss and co. know that this will go bad for the elections here at home.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 09:20 PM
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7. I wonder if Bush has any realization of irony ?
Hm, 2003 invasion of Iraq. Naw, he's too stupid to realize he's a complete hypocrite.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 10:08 PM
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23. No. I'm pretty sure you have to be conscious for that realization. n/t
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DogPoundPup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 09:22 PM
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8. US backs Georgia against 'Russian aggression'
Source: ABC Austrailia

The United States has accused Russia of seeking regime change in Georgia as the US pushes the UN Security Council to call for a ceasefire in the widening, bloody Caucasus conflict.

The simmering conflict between Russia and its small, former Soviet neighbour Georgia erupted late on Thursday when Georgia sent forces into South Ossetia, a small pro-Russian province which threw off Georgian rule in the 1990s.

Moscow said 2,000 civilians were killed and thousands made homeless in a "humanitarian catastrophe" but there has been no independent confirmation of the number of dead and wounded throughout the region.

Russia, which has accused Georgia of "genocide" in South Ossetia, had provided support to the separatists and acted as a peacekeeper in the province, responded to Georgia's invasion by pouring troops and tanks south through the Caucasus mountains into South Ossetia to drive back the Georgians.

Russian troops and tanks took control of Tskhinvali, the region's devastated capital, early on Sunday after a three-day battle.

Georgia offered Russia a ceasefire and peace talks on Sunday after pulling troops back from rebel South Ossetia's capital, and mediators began a mission to end the internationally condemned fighting.

However, some fighting still gripped parts of the Caucasus region and Russia demanded an unconditional Georgian withdrawal.

The conflict has alarmed the West, which views Georgia as a valuable, if volatile, ally because of its strategic location on an energy transit route carrying oil from the Caspian to Europe.

Read more: http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/08/11/2330960.htm?section=justin
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 09:22 PM
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9. Maybe we can dust off the old "Domino Theory"...
:eyes:
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 09:22 PM
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10. Georgia replies....
"Guys, not helping. Ixnay on the ackingbay"...
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 09:22 PM
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11. Oh HELL NO,
Hey Russia, the US doesn't back anyone. It is Bush and Cheney opening their big mouth. Take it out on them, not on us.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 09:22 PM
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16. You'll pay at the pump.
oh hell yeah

prices should be lower.
I guess the uptick will make the oil barons happy.
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 09:22 PM
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19. Down to half a tank of gas a month.
Getting that one under control.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 09:22 PM
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12. WWIII and VI all in one package
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 09:22 PM
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18. well, they're already most of the way there - quite efficient! (sarcasm) nt
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 09:22 PM
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13. Good doggie.
Let the butt-covering begin.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 09:22 PM
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14. We helped in Iraq - now help us, beg Georgians
Edited on Sun Aug-10-08 09:04 PM by ohio2007
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article4500362.ece

thrown under the bus ?

Wonder how Obama's team will spin this next week

lol

all the while China "entertains" other nations leaders from around the world ;)

just to get the conspirecy theories started



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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 09:22 PM
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17. Well
They've made an active choice to participate in the greatest lie ever sold re: Iraq. They should have pulled out when Spain did. Did they really think Bush Co. was in 'it' for anyone other than themselves?
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nebenaube Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 03:44 PM
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35. what theory?
The conspiracy is obvious.
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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 09:22 PM
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15. Now see
There's this thing called pot. It should meet the kettle. They're both black . . .

The United States has accused Russia of seeking regime change in Georgia as the US pushes . . .

Well aren't we a fine group of folks to point fingers about seeking regime change. And isn't it funny - Bush and Putin came to words over this just four months ago.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 09:22 PM
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20. Our Country is Run by Upper Crust Nut Cases who have nothing to lose
nor do they sacrifice a fucking thing. Talk about hubris...
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 10:01 PM
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21. Oh the irony...
Not to even mention the never-ending hypocrisy.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 10:03 PM
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22. People who live in glass houses........
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 03:22 AM
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26. glass houses.......
shouldn't stow thrones : the Emperor Chimpmy has spoken.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 10:08 AM
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30. The moral high ground used to be our strength.
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katukov Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 11:12 PM
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24. War criminals
Chimpy Bush would never invade a sovereign nation, drop bombs on civilians, and commit atrocities!

Oh, wait...
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 11:23 PM
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25. To quote Stalin (out of context),
"How many divisions does he command?"

Wait! All of Bush's divisions are in Iraq-nam.

Oh well, support our Oops!
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 04:07 AM
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27. Throughout the interview with Costas, the idiot son grinned wildly
while speaking about war and tensions within the international community. His ridiculous countenance was truly disturbing. It was the face of a madman.
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mahina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 04:16 AM
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28. Wait, so now proportionality matters? We lost all credibility
as a force for world peace when shithead started war on Iraq.

Proportionality is one of the criteria for just war- I guess somebody in the White House read a book.

Tragic.

We just have to do everything we can to prevent the theft of the coming election.
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scarface2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:24 AM
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29. putin: us response in iraq 'disproportionate'!
hey twit pretzeldent...stfu!!
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 10:44 AM
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31. Disproportionate
Like Fallujah, as just one example.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 12:10 PM
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32. He must not be familiar w/ the term "Shock and Awe". Oh wait.......n/t
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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 12:30 PM
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33. I thought he "was able to get a sense of his soul" in 2001
what does he see now when he looks in his eyes?
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 04:47 PM
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36. I think Putin and Bush made a bet to see who could kill the most civilians
and cause the most terror in the world before each of them left office. He was just joking around with Pooty Poot on Friday wasn't he?
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 07:48 PM
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37. Whoa. A 5-syllable word from Il Dunce'
:applause:
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