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dtotire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:25 PM
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Barack Obama's image suffers under John McCain attacks, poll finds
Source: LA Times

Barack Obama's image suffers under John McCain attacks, poll finds


The presidential race remains tight, with respondents to a Times/Bloomberg poll choosing Obama by 45% to McCain's 43%, a statistical dead heat. Obama's race remains an issue with many voters.
By Michael Finnegan, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
2:00 PM PDT, August 19, 2008
Barack Obama's public image has eroded this summer amid a daily onslaught of attacks from Republican rival John McCain, leaving the race for the White House statistically tied, according to a Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg poll released today.

Far more voters say McCain has the right experience to be president, the poll found. More than a third have questions about Obama's patriotism.






http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-poll20-2008aug20,0,5506138.story






Read more: http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-poll20-2008aug20,0,5506138.story
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:28 PM
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1. Who did they poll, the Klan?
What transparent bs.

lol
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 05:28 PM
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10. Apparently. Over a third question Obama's patriotism? Give me a break.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:37 PM
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2. The Surge is working
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:37 PM
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3. This is what
any astute campaign watching the Hillary strength in the primaries would figure out as the very best tack to keep their guy in there against Obama. The same intractable parity- whatever the different situation it might be this time- is the major threat to the Obama campaign. On this great hinge swings the massive desire of the public for something better than the old versus the powerful engineered distractions that might move McCain within striking distance at least for cheating. The primary was indeed a mini-model for the main campaign now even with the Penn machinations and the willingness to bend the rules.

The taunt will always be that Obama can't get a bad man down. Not being an expert and not having any way of knowing how Obama could have "put Hillary away" or McCain I offer no advice. I only note that there is less reason for caution now since the entire electorate is engaged and the party united( a little detail ignored by very many!). Simply pitching for pennies among the 2% non polarized swing voters is a recipe to concede McCain the unearned parity strategies. There IS a huge majority to win(one that Kerry was starting to get in spite of all) out there. Not to go for it with intelligence and passion is to betray the electorate's political desires.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:38 PM
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4. Polls that don't include cell phone users, and...
polls that don't really matter at this point. In another week that is all going to change.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:56 PM
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5. Polling stupid people
Unfortunately there are far too many stupid people out there.

McCain is a dumb ass. But if 100 is an average IQ and if McCain has an IQ of 100, then he is smarter than half the country. There are plently of people out there who probably think McCain is smarter than they are and they are probably right.

But average isn't good enough IMHO. I want my president to be the smartest guy in the room. I would like him to be smarter than I am. Obama is. McCain doesn't even come close.
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 05:05 PM
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6. So I take it that these polls are based on a non-electoral college system? n/t
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 05:09 PM
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7. "Stupid, corrupt polling company attacks Obama."
Better title.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 05:14 PM
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8. Fight. Back. Actually, that's coming, I think.
Goad McCain. Get his temper to flare.

This is no time to hold back.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 05:26 PM
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9. How could anyone believe anything McCain says at this point?
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 05:35 PM
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11. those polls lie-- rovian tactics
they have to manipulate the polls so the "elections" aren't a surprise. (good luck to them this year- can you say mcriot?)

I just posted this elsewhere on the site:

snip

Chamber Of Commerce Launders Money To Fake Front Organizations To Fund Attacks On Candidates

The untold story behind our new RoveCyberGate campaign is frightening:

We have learned from attorneys that the Chambers of Commerce, both US and state, have a political arm that works closely with Karl Rove to raise hundreds of millions of dollars for the purpose of manipulating elections. That money is used to create fake front organizations as so-called "advocacy groups" to attack candidates who are not "pro-business." The advocacy group donors are exempted from disclosure....

This is a nationwide strategy to attack progressive candidates and stack the judiciary with pro-business judges. Big business benefits with hands off regulations, lax enforcement, and policies that pump billions of dollars into the coffers of energy, tobacco, pharmaceutical and military corporations. Since the election of George Bush, the Chamber of Commerce has been one of the largest lobbying organizations, spending almost $400 million. It intends to spend millions more in the upcoming election, much of illegally and unreported. We intend to expose the Chamber, the fake front groups, and the dishonest, partisan companies funding this anti-democratic operation.

http://www.markcrispinmiller.blogspot.com/
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 06:09 PM
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12. BS - the only people who answer phones or surveys are rw n/t
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 10:37 PM
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13. "More than a third have questions about Obama's patriotism."
And here I'd been thinking Americans had grown the fuck up lately.



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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 11:13 PM
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14. Swiftboating Works, If Your Side Owns the Media
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 11:16 PM
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15. Experience?
The same old same old?

I have a hard time believing that's what voters really want.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 06:29 AM
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16. I'm hoping after the convention Obama opens the flood gates.
If he can't mar his image by going after McBush, someone else absolutely has to. If we continue to play "let's make nice" with the Republicans, they will win. Pure and simple. The American public, generally speaking, cares more about American Idol than who the American president is. Sad, but true. If they manage to vote, their criteria will be what gets their attention for a second on a television ad. Republicans are reverting to the "we will keep you safe" load of baloney in the above board ads and the "scary black man" in some of the others. Someone, somehow, has to point out McCain's lack of mental fitness for the job, otherwise we're going to end up with a president even worse than Bush.
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