Judge orders Cheney to preserve records

[inanna]

Source: AP

WASHINGTON (AP) — A federal judge on Saturday ordered Dick Cheney to preserve a wide range of the records from his time as vice president.

The decision by U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly is a setback for the Bush administration in its effort to promote a narrow definition of materials that must be safeguarded under by the Presidential Records Act.

The Bush administration's legal position "heightens the court's concern" that some records may not be preserved, said the judge.

A private group, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, is suing Cheney and the Executive Office of the President in an effort to ensure that no presidential records are destroyed or handled in a way that makes them unavailable to the public.


Read more: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hKXn0zpu4g78bQXEplkbxWQy4euQD93AMNE00

[Jackpine Radical]

1. Why should he pay any attention to some pipsqueak judge?

Who's gonna arrest him? Who's gonna prosecute?

Sorry, folks, hope for what you will, but if McNutso wins, it's moot, and I don't see the Obamites launching a huge legal vendetta either.

We're gonna be in such deep economic shit by then that people will have more important things on their minds. Like survival.

[Festivito]

14. He may face a sternly worded letter.

It may even be delivered at an inopportune moment, such as between courses five and six.

[Jackpine Radical]

18. That could be absolutely withering.

[crossroads]

21. Well said! nt

[bemildred]

2. So? nt

[shanti]

23. or go f*ck yourself

take your choice :hi:

[KoKo]

3. Sorry Judge...remember that fire we had in my office "Broom Room"...HaHaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Just like those e-mails judge ordered turned over from Bush...Gone...Gone...Gone... OOPSIE...we and the RNC just managed to have "server problems." ALL GONE....HaHaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Jokes on You Judicial Floozies...I knew you'd have to rule against me sometimes...but you know you are all in my pocket. Just keep doing those "rulings" so you kinda' look honest! HaaaaaaaaaaHaaaaaaaaaaaaHa............

[chat_noir]

4. Judge orders Cheney to preserve records

Source: Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) — A federal judge on Saturday ordered Dick Cheney to preserve a wide range of the records from his time as vice president.

The decision by U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly is a setback for the Bush administration in its effort to promote a narrow definition of materials that must be safeguarded under by the Presidential Records Act.

The Bush administration's legal position "heightens the court's concern" that some records may not be preserved, said the judge.

A private group, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, is suing Cheney and the Executive Office of the President in an effort to ensure that no presidential records are destroyed or handled in a way that makes them unavailable to the public.

Read more: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hKXn0zpu4g78bQXEplkbxWQy4euQD93AMNE00

[rucky]

5. CREW does it again!

:applause:

[Alameda]

6. with the respect this regime has shown, he will probably say ****

....and either shred them or hide them. Given the egos, they will probably be hidden. Hey, they ignore supoenas....why should they respect this order?

[nytemare]

9. Bingo...if they aren't already destroyed.

[Trajan]

7. NOW they do this ?

Yeah ... right .....

That horse ran away from the barn long ago ....

It's in the next solar system by now ....

[EFerrari]

8. This is CREW -- people who work for a living

not the Hill corporati.

[Trajan]

11. "They" ....

"They" would be the elements of the justice system that allowed this to transpire for SO LONG without acting .... until now ....

[EFerrari]

12. Then, "they" will never do it. We have no functioning DoJ, as far as I know.

[lynnertic]

10. ...as if they weren't shredded months ago! n/t

[VP505]

13. I am sure Dick told his staff

Get right on it, wink, wink as the sound of shredders drowned his voice out.

[nichomachus]

15. They've got judges on the payroll

who were put into their position specifically to overturn stuff like this.

Nice try -- but it ain't gonna work. If all else fails, they'll send it up to Roberts, Thomas, and the rest of the hired help.

[kestrel91316]

16. Judge, I've got some sad news for you. You can't "preserve" what

you've already destroyed.

Furthermore, Cheney will ignore your order because he knows damned well there will be NO CONSEQUENCES for ignoring you. Bush will pardon him in advance of any prosecution for obstruction of justice.

What a waste of time and effort.

[cyr330]

17. When has a court order stopped that PIG?

[whistle]

19. Dick Cheney replies, "Fuck you!". So jail time is now due

[lelgt60]

20. It can be done...remember watergate

They all looked invincible: Nixon, Agnew, Haldeman, Erlichman, Mitchell

[Maccagirl]

29. Please see Post #28.

n/t

[Elidor]

22. I'm sure Snarling Dick will get right on that

Because he's always shown such respect for the law, after all.

[Pavulon]

24. Sadly PGP and the expiring key make this irrelevant

if they have smart it people. When I travel I use PGP whole disk encryption. If ever asked to provide a key, I will just forget. Everything, including memory is trash. Many companies write data to disk encrypted with a different key each day. There may or may not be a master key.

Then in addition to destroying backups after a given period they expire the key. So the unaltered data becomes unrecoverable as it is written down with aes-256 and no key no longer exists to reverse the process.

I wonder how smart these folks are.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

25. "Awww...Too late, man."

"Sorry, but we destroyed those before the ruling."

[Solly Mack]

26. Snort

Too little too late and meaningless...

Cheney won't listen and the records have been destroyed already and nothing the court says will stop Cheney from destroying any records now.. if any records still even exist

"heightens the court's concern" snort...concern,eh? lol

just concern...well, put those concerns to rest...that records have been destroyed is a certainty

and if after all this time of Cheney/Bush flouting the law the strongest word the court can find is "concern" then the court is a joke.

[santamargarita]

27. Think he will start another fire? Or, another WTC Building 7?

Put nothing past these fascist pigs!

[young_at_heart]

28. From John Dean's 'FindLaw' page about Cheney:

If Armey is right, Dick Cheney has not only behaved improperly, but also criminally: In addition, when lying to Armey, Cheney clearly committed a "high crime or misdemeanor" in his blocking the Constitution's checks and balances from stopping our march into Iraq. During the debates that took place during the Constitution's ratification conventions, it was specifically stated that lying to Congress about matters of war would be an impeachable offense. Congress has also made it a crime.

Nonetheless, nothing is likely to happen to Cheney, for Congress is too busy dealing with the disastrous economy that he and Bush are leaving behind as they head for the door. No one seems inclined to hold Cheney responsible, and he appears totally unconcerned about the wrath of history. Yet in lying even to those in his own party, about reasons to go to war, he has sunk to a low level few have reached, and it is no hyperbole to call his actions treasonous to the structure and spirit of the Republic.

[tanyev]

30. It's like ordering the wind to stop blowing.

What needs to be done now is issue search warrants and arrest warrants.

[Democat]

31. Cheney doesn't care about laws or the constitution

Offer him enough money, and maybe he'd be willing to preserve the records. Bush and Cheney care about one thing, and that's money.

[judasdisney]

32. Cheney orders judge to be shot in the face

[judasdisney]

33. Cheney orders judge to be shot in the face