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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 05:27 AM
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U.S. will lose financial superpower status: Germany
Source: Reuters via Yahoo

By Noah Barkin 38 minutes ago

BERLIN (Reuters) - Germany blamed the United States on Thursday for spawning the global financial crisis with a blind drive for higher profits and said it would now have to accept greater market regulation and a loss of its financial superpower status.

In some of the toughest language since the crisis worsened earlier this month, German Finance Minister Peer Steinbrueck told parliament the financial turmoil would leave "deep marks" but was primarily an American problem.

"The world will never be as it was before the crisis," Steinbrueck, a deputy leader of the center-left Social Democrats, told the Bundestag lower house.

"The United States will lose its superpower status in the world financial system. The world financial system will become more multi-polar."

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080925/ts_nm/us_financial_germany_steinbruecknews_1
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 05:28 AM
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1. Thanks, Bush. nt
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 05:31 AM
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2. THE BUSH LEGACY
n/t

pnorman
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 05:35 AM
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3. We can tell our grandkids...
how we were an economic superpower once, and Bush pissed it all away. :mad:
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tama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 09:54 AM
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25. Why the anger?
Do you really think it's GOOD to be an economic superpower?
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 10:02 AM
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26. A decent standard of living is nice...
Would you rather we were all in shacks?
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tama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 10:13 AM
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27. Ecological footprint
worth several planets is not "nice", it means literally feasting on your childrens and grandchildrens lives.

Greed is not nice, it is a mortal sin.
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 10:20 AM
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28. economic superpower does not necessarily equal greed.
it is what is. or has been. though it is clear there has been a LOT of greed in this country over the past few decades.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 11:04 AM
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30. Get of the computer and save energy...
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tama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 11:16 AM
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31. In due time
I'm currently 50-50 (half month online, half month offline); whereas some time ago I was online all the time. I preach gradual learning process, taking baby steps. It's taking the first steps the counts most, others come easier when one learns to walk. But learning to run before learning to walk does not usually end well.
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tama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 11:49 AM
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32. Why the anger:
Psychology 101 tells that the more you owns, the more you are pwnd by your possessions, gripped by fear of loosing your possessions (MY PRECIOUSS!), the more you fear the more you feel anger.

Ownership society = society of hatred.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 05:36 AM
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4. Considering How the US Has Abused This Power (Outside of the Marshall Plan)
This is a good thing.

No nation should be in the business of making or breaking other nations.

The responsible adult takes the matches and sharp tools away from children.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 06:09 AM
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5. I think it has already lost superpower status
Thank Bush & Company for destroying the US in 8 short years.

Priceless.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 06:40 AM
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7. Like most DUers, I was leary of Bush from the get-go and feared he'd be a complete disaster,
but even I didn't think he would be as big a FUBAR as he's turned out to be (at least for those of us in the lower 99%). Everything he touches turns to shit. The pre-Bush USA is a distant memory. :-(
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 01:15 PM
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35. One of my good friends in Texas said "God help the USA"
Edited on Thu Sep-25-08 01:15 PM by 48percenter
when the asshat stole the election. He lived through 5 years of * as Governor, and said this guy is pure poison. Watch you won't recognize the country when he's finished with it.

I tell him "L. you are prescient!!" He groans.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:33 AM
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43. Count me in as one of those Texans that saw the writing on the wall...
I told my sister back then, "I lived under morons* governorship for 5 long years, believe me he* will ruin this nation, just give it time".

Believe me, this is one time I really don't like being right. Oddly, now my sister is a big Obama supporter, funny that. :)
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:45 PM
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37. Nonsense.
The self-destruct process began with St. Raygun. It took the repukes nearly thirty years to destroy what one of their own called "the last, best hope of Earth". :eyes:
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 06:30 AM
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6. This sounds very much like the direction it is heading - MUST READ!
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 06:42 AM
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8. Europeans played along with many of these games
so they're hardly in any position to talk....
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GinaMaria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 07:46 AM
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15. it worked in their favor n/t
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 06:50 AM
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9. Yes. China called in its chips.
It's what everybody who isn't an ideologue warned about.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 07:17 AM
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10. This will be our reasoning to start the resource wars
Or continue them I should say. "Waahhh the world won't trade with us anymore, everyone has dumped the dollar and we must invade (Fill in blank) to protect our Murikan way of life. Oh BTW we don't have enough cash to hold the election anymore. Sorry. Maybe in a couple years."
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 07:27 AM
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11. Our military, and a few tourism dollars, are the only thing keeping us any kind of power.
We nearly have nothing else to offer the world at this point. They don't need our resources, they don't need our manufacturing and they damn sure don't want us fucking up world economics anymore.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 05:11 PM
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39. Incorrect.
The us drives technology and design, we then send manufacturing out to low bid (a big mistake) nations to make the gear.

Run a big company you use Z/OS/I or P class , EMC, or others. Need aerospace, we are the best period.

You are way off base. Germany does not even make a wide body jetliner.

What we do manufacturer is by far the best in the world.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 10:30 PM
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41. You should tell that to the people in Hamburg
who work in the factory of Airbus Industrie, which started out as a joint venture between France's Aerospatiale and Germany's Daimler-Benz Aerospace.

:eyes:
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 07:30 AM
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12. Unregulated greed is a terminal disease. Who could have guessed?
:mad:
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workinclasszero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 07:41 AM
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13. It only took eight years of Rethuglian rule
Edited on Thu Sep-25-08 07:42 AM by workinclasszero
to destroy everything that made America great.:mad:

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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 08:21 AM
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17. No, It took 28 years, 28 long corporate years!
Reagan 8 years
Bush 1 4 years
Clinton 8 years
Bush II 8 years count em up its 28 years Clinton was not really a true democrat.

28 Fucked Up years of moving backwards!
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 09:04 AM
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20. Clinton isn't the same kind of Democrat like FDR or Truman were. That's for sure.
Unfortunately, anybody can register as a Democrat, and their party registration papers would say they're Democrats. Even right wing people can register and call themselves Democrats.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 12:55 AM
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42. Clinton started out as a progressive Democrat
He almost won his bid for a Congressional seat in Arkansas' dyed-in-the-wool-Republican 3rd District in 1974, but lost a lot votes because he was "too liberal". He then became state attorney general in '76, and became the country's youngest governor in '78, on a surprisingly liberal (for Arkansas) platform. However, after his defeat by creationist Frank White in the Reagan landslide of 1980, Clinton figured he needed to tone down his "liberal" credentials in a not-so-progressive state to get back into the governor's mansion.
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GinaMaria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 07:45 AM
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14. that could be one of the consequences of
having * in power for 8 years. We will be paying for this for a long time in many different ways. :(
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 08:17 AM
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16. No, duh. nt
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 08:36 AM
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18. From the world's most powerful dictator to guttersnipe overnight.
Hell of a legacy, Georgie Boy. Hell of a legacy.
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shrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 08:56 AM
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19. I think that ship sailed before he made his remarks n/t
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RedLetterRev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 09:05 AM
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21. Whadda they mean "will" lose?
It's a bit late. That water is already over the dam and gone, thanks to all the cast and crew that made this day possible. Begin :sarcasm: For this award, we'd like to thank Newt Gingrich, Phil Gramm, John McCain and the cast of the Keating Five, the entire Bush Family, the entire Pierce family, the entire Harriman family, Grover Norquist, Mellon Scaife, every Republican in the House and Senate since 1972, many others too numerous to mention in the time and space we've been alloted before the music starts and we're ushered off the world stage ...

... and we'd also like to thank every other shill, enabler, apologist and propagandist who knew better but didn't do better. End :sarcasm:

For the crimes of fraud, larceny, election theft, and treason to name but a few, each and every one deserves to be depended from a short, stout rope from the nearest tall, sturdy object. If they had any honor, they'd do themselves, but -- look around -- QED, they don't.

:nuke:
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 09:08 AM
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22. (Blatantly stealing from Bill Maher) - On Bush's watch, we've lost
almost all of our allies, the surplus, four airliners, two trade centers, a piece of the Pentagon, the City of New Orleans, AND NOW OUR ECONOMY. Maybe you're just not lucky. I'm not saying you don't love this country. I'm just wondering how much worse it could be if you were on the other side.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 09:13 AM
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23. Maybe that's a good thing in the long run. I've been thinking we were past
due for a fall like Rome when it was in it's last days. Corruption and shallow materialism have invaded the
culture and we are going down. Maybe if they'd just let it happen we could rise again as a better country.

Or maybe not. :shrug:
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 09:47 AM
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24. Republicans Destroyed Their Number One Myth:
they they were better at handling the economy than Democrats
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 10:46 AM
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29. What took them so long?
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 12:01 PM
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33. Good!
Because our system sucks a big, gangrenous ass. No health care, no labor rights, fraud and corruption on an unprecedented scale.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 12:38 PM
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34. That would be a good thing.
Finance must be multi-polar. The whole world is clamoring for the end of the superpower system of world affairs. The end of the USSR as a superpower was only half of this task.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 04:30 PM
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36. The US will always be a superpower debtor nation with a vast arsenal of
the most advanced lethal weaponry so graciously financed by other nations. :P
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 05:06 PM
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38. GER GDP divides in to US GDP leaving whole numbers
we buy their shit (cars, high end technical stuff, etc).

His explanation why his economy is jacked. Blind investment in Mortgage securities.
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greblc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-08 05:42 PM
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40. Will we then cut all foreign aid...
ad pull Troops out of Germany?
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