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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:27 PM
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Member of Sept. 11 Panel Praises Interview With Rice
CLINTON BLAME ALERT
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The commission reviewing the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks met with President Bush's national security adviser yesterday for an interview one commissioner described as cooperative and productive.

Condoleezza Rice met with the panel privately for several hours at the White House to discuss what the administration knew before the catastrophe, said Timothy Roemer, a former Democratic House member from Indiana. He declined to give details of the meeting.

"I thought the tone and level of cooperation and the exchange was productive," Roemer said.

But he added: "I strongly underscore and underline the need" to have Rice and Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger, national security adviser under President Bill Clinton, testify in public.

source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A22207-2004Feb7.html
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CLINTON BLAME ALERT ---- CLINTON RESPONSIBLE FOR 9/11
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:33 PM
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1. WTF???
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:34 PM
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2. I don't know...
Rice might be trying to blame Clinton, so he want's her to testify to that publicly and then have Berger testify as well. It could spell disaster for the misadministration.
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:34 PM
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3. How 'bout Condi *and* Sandy Berger under oath at the same time?
Dare I dream?

I believe Mr. Berger... Condi was told about the Al Qaeda threat during the transition and let it fall off the radar for whatever reason.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:44 PM
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4. I might believe it when I see it
I'm not quite as daring a dreamer, but we'll see....
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:46 PM
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5. Good point,,,,,then they can get into
the push by Bush to abandon Hart-Rudman, hee.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:59 PM
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8. That's a good angle
Hart-Rudman had this a 9/11-type event predicted in advance. All Condi could say was that she could not have predicted anything but "conventional" highjackings.

For anyone curious, here's a pdf version of the Hart-Rudman findings: http://www.carlisle.army.mil/ssi/pubs/2001/hartrud/hartrud.pdf
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 01:39 AM
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17. "All Condi could say was that she could not have predicted anything but
conventional hijackings." Don't you just love it when she says that in defense of the misadministration's actions, like a "conventional hijacking" is just fine, fine and dandy.
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:51 PM
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6. Did Franken cover that Time vs NYTimes versions of Condi's story
in the Lies book? Seem to remember something about that. Can't remember what his proof or sources were, but Condi was warned by Berger and somehow stated that fact. :shrug:
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patriotvoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:57 PM
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7. Pinning the blame on Clinton's team
Edited on Sat Feb-07-04 10:58 PM by patriotvoice
People will easily believe that Clinton's team should receive most of the blame and that Bush's team is only marginally culpable.

People were told that a low-energy fuel fire was sufficient to melt the steel girders of the world's largest skyscrapers. They believed this because their knowledge of explosive power comes from Hollywood: low-energy explosions produce lots of fire and smoke but are always juxtaposed with tremendous catastrophes. Hence, there is a mental association between Hollywood explosions and major catastrophes, despite the actual physics involved.

People will be told that it's Clinton's team's fault and there was no way for Bush's team to stop it: after all, only a handful of months passed between transition and The 01 Event. Most people will believe that there simply wasn't enough time and/or the "terrorists" struck us when we were most vulnerable. Either way, Bush's team finds a measure of absolution.

Why don't you deliver us from pain and evil?
We stand in a quiver before our god,
and we will follow his will as long as he will feed us.
But we're not sure if he does really need us. --wumpscut
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 11:01 PM
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9. Good points
Welcome to DU, BTW.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 11:11 PM
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10. That woman does not know how to tell the truth. If she were not
going to lie, why did she refuse to testify under oath? Also why did the commission have to go to her?
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Sven77 Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 11:14 PM
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11. Condi Rice to testify unsworn, in secret
Bob Kerrey Says 9/11 Group Meets With Condoleezza

http://www2.observer.com/observer/pages/frontpage1.asp

from http://www.timnews.com/
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 11:22 PM
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13. Really contradictory
Good find, Sven. That's why I think this commission is bogus. On one hand, you have a Democrat publicly hoping to get Condi to testify via the NY Times. Then here you have the NY Observer saying she won't.

It will simply add to the confusion and obfuscation, which, of course, is the point.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 12:37 AM
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15. I thought she grabbed her broom and flew out of town
Edited on Sun Feb-08-04 12:37 AM by saigon68
I guess I was wrong:-(
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 11:14 PM
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12. Condi under oath
Please explain your statement, "We never dreamed that they'd use planes to crash into buildings".

Would she refute that statement? Or risk perjury?



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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 11:22 PM
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14. Accountability is a word that does not apply to..
this administration at all. Really tired of the 'Clinton' excuse for everything. It didn't happen on his clock!
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 01:18 AM
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16. If if is not public and under oath it is meaningless
It might be interesting to see both Berger and Rice being questioned in public. It would be an interesting contrast. It all needs to be sworn testimony though.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 01:51 AM
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18. I know this is a different commission,...
but what's to prevent congress from initiating their own investigation into this ASSHOLE admin. BS war failure?

Is it because repukes have the majority (temporary) or are people too scared to go-around the czar?

No financing?
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