'60 Minutes' producer dead at 34 (Cheney connection)

[prolesunited]

NEW YORK - Trevor Nelson, a producer for CBS News' "60 Minutes," died on Thursday from complications from meningitis. He was 34.

Nelson produced reports for correspondent Steve Kroft, including a recent story on business interests in Iraq by Vice President Cheney's former firm. In three years, he produced 20 segments, 15 of which led the broadcast.

http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/fortwayne/entertainment/6385268.htm

Well, at least he didn't commit suicide. :shrug: So sad, leaving a wife and two small boys.

[ChillEB]

1. Condolences to his family...

This is a terrible tragedy. What a shame. It's never a great time to lose a loved on, but 34 is just sooo young to go. I shall say a prayer for his soul, and for his survivors, before bed tonight...

[preciousdove]

2. More

http://www.tvbarn.com/ticker/archives/013600.html

Nelson helped Kroft produce 60 MINUTES' lead story after 9/11 in just 5 days - an intensive investigation of the U.S. airport security lapses that made the terrorist attack possible. It was one of six reports he and Kroft produced concerning the security of the U.S. in the wake of the attack, a series that included investigations of the INS, The Border Patrol and the nation's ports. In another 9/11 related segment, he and Kroft examined the attack's effects on one of the hardest hit financial firms, Sandler O'Neill, which lost its headquarters and a third of people. The report earned Nelson his second nomination for an Emmy Award.

[dArKeR]

3. Just think where our country would be without 60 Minutes!

This guy must have had more morals than all of D.C. and the Bush cronies combined! Hope the family can make it throught this!

[NIGHT TRIPPER]

4. my sympathies...

too bad when it happens early---
death happens every day.
Most of us never really think
about the fact it WILL happen to US one day.

And my point is just that it could happen at ANY moment.
on any day.
If we all just thought about that each day when we awakened it would definitely affect our actions that day… likely in a good way.
When you die it doesn't matter what job you had or how much money you made.
If we thought about it we'd probably never wake up even one day chasing a damned overglorified dollar.

[seventhson]

5. biowarfare

meningitis is a likely a delverable WMD and probably a very good assassination agenbt.

Never be certain it was "just fate"

[donsu]

6. agree

nt

[Christian73]

7. Biowarfare

I was thinking as the same thing!

[LifeDuringWartime]

8. whaat

that sounds like crazy-talk to me........

[BeHereNow]

12. Yes, Wolfowitz & Co. ARE crazy...

and deadly serious about using bio-chemical agents
as "politically useful tools" (excerpt from the PNAC diatribe
'Rebuilding America's Defenses)

Wayne Madsen: Online Journal
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/050303Madsen/050303madsen.html

I firmly believe this man's death was NO accident.

BHN

[Pallas180]

14. West Nile Virus is one of our "bio-chemical" inventions -Senator

Pat Leahy let the cat out of the bag during the anthrax
scare when he was quite upset.

Apparently another of our bio-chem inventions that got loose
on the population or carried from one country to another by
air or sea.

I firmly believe AIDS is another.

The very first experiment //accident was the gypsy moth that
destroyed unnumbered amount of trees in the US remember?

[soothsayer]

15. West Nile is another (came from Plum Island just off NYC)

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/bioterror_plumisland_990929.html

West Nile radiated out of NY, and yes, Plum Island was working on strands of West Nile at the time.

The question is, are these things released accidentally or deliberately? I mean, the gov't can experiment on military personnel without their knowledge or consent (by law), but I bet they can't resist continuing to do it to the general population as they have prolly forever, but certainly at least since the 50's and before.

On edit, oops, forgot Tuskegee was in the 30's.

[Tinoire]

16. Do you have any links to this? I want to start keeping track. Tks n/t

[ParanoidPat]

25. Google, 'Bush House', 'September 11', Waterloo Bridge'....

....or just click here! :evilfrown:

Ya' know folks, ya' just can't make this stuff up! :shrug:

Can you say ricin? :scared:

Good! I knew you could! :evilgrin:

[Tinoire]

9. OH DAMN DAMN DAMN posters 5, 6 and 7 !!!!

Last night something came up that made me pull out Mike Vreeland's letter from pre-911. Assuming the entire thing wasn't a hoax and I think enough of us were around AT THE TIME so watched the whole thing develop and analyzed it...

I did 2 searches. One, unrelated to this thread was for the M234 RAG with kinetic projectile launcher www.dtic.mil/ndia/nld4/flat.pdf & https://192.156.75.103/mcrp/view/mcrp337c/mcrp337c.pdf

and the second quick search was for "brown recluse" because that has ALWAYS nagged at me about Vreeland's message. So I read a little and then clicked on this thread because the board is very slow this morning. Shit. Did a google on "brown recluse" meningitis

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22meningitis%22+%22brown+recluse%22

and found this:

was apparently bitten on June 2. I remember feeling pain at the site, but didn't really pay much attention at the time, as I was busy rescuing a kitten that was stuck under the garage.

I developed a severe headache and stiff neck that evening that progressed over the next day, sending me to the ER thinking I might have meningitis. There, blood cultures were drawn and found to be negative. I was put on Augmentin (for precaution, I guess). There was no improvement in my general sympotms. The ankle site remained red, then blistered, then red with black center that was surrounded by a red ring. I still didn't think about a BRB, thinking instead it was an infected chigger bite.

To make a really long story shorter, after no less than 4 doctor visits (after the inital ER visit), my neighbor discovered the cause. I had experienced 2 full days of nausea and vomiting, along with severe joint pain and muscle cramping, headache and stiff neck. They came over to check on me and she happened to see the ulcer on my ankle, which she said looked like a Fiddleback bite. She got her husband (a paramedic) to look at it....and off we went to the ER again. After IV Zithromax, Phenergan, and 1000cc of IV fluid, I'm beginning to feel somewhat human again. The ER physician diagnosed it as a brown spider bite and has had me keep my leg elevated with hot moist packs, antibiotic ointment and has continued me on Zithromax by mouth.

The ulcer hasn't increased in size (which is approx. 1cm in diameter)and the black center is no longer there....it is now pink but still cratered. It is also less sore than it was.

http://www.highway60.com/mark/brs/bite.asp?Msg=489

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Cutaneous Anthrax Management Algorithm

1. Suspicious Lesions

a. The highest suspicion should be given to those lesions where the patient had a known or highly suspected exposure to anthrax. However, as some of the recent cases have demonstrated, no known exposure had occurred when the patients presented for care.
b. After an incubation period of approximately 7 days (range = 1 to 12 days), cutaneous anthrax begins as a papule, usually on an exposed area, such as the head, neck, or an upper extremity. The papule may resemble an insect or spider bite and may itch.
c. The papule enlarges and develops a central vesicle or bulla with surrounding brawny, non-pitting edema.
d. The central vesicle becomes hemorrhagic, depressed, and necrotic, and it may become surrounded by satellite vesicles.
e. A central black eschar forms, and the surrounding erythema and edema increase. The necrotic ulcer is usually painless, which is an important differentiating feature from a brown recluse spider bite.
Pustules are rarely present in anthrax lesions, and a primary pustular lesion is unlikely to be cutaneous anthrax. Primary lesions presenting as cloudy vesicles may occur.
f. Lesions progress from papule to vesicle to ulcer to eschar with or without antibiotic therapy as the progression is based on toxin production.
g. Lesions may be solitary or multiple, and if multiple, they are usually found on the same part of the body.
h. Tender regional lymphadenopathy, fatigue, fever, and/or chills may accompany cutaneous findings (ulceroglandular disease).
http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cache:xVtfObA5KTQJ:www.aad.org/BioInfo/Biomessage2.html+%22meningitis%22+%22brown+recluse%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

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Bioterrorism Summaries from Annual Session 2002
Course Title: Bioterrorism
Section: Disaster Preparedness
Faculty Member: Richard P. Wenzel, MSc, MACP
Date/time: April 11, 2002, 10:45 a.m.-12:15 p.m.
Course Number: MTP 131
Reporter: Shannon Donovan, MA

Introduction
Timely recognition of symptoms and early treatment are key to the survival of victims of bioterror attacks. Physicians must be able to diagnose quickly the symptoms of such attacks.

<snip>

Clinical Questions
What are the clinical characteristics of infection with various biological agents that may be used as weapons?
What is the pathogenesis of anthrax, smallpox, and botulism?
What measures can be taken to control the problem?
Key Points
Symptoms of anthrax are nonspecific: fever, chills, fatigue, and malaise.

Anthrax is characterized by hemorrhage and edema. Key symptoms of cutaneous anthrax are massive edema and painless ulcers (unlike those seen after brown recluse spider bites).

Only 8 anthrax spores have to reach the mediastinal nodes to cause pleural effusions, followed by bloodstream infection, sepsis and septic shock, and (in 50% of patients) meningitis.

Hemorrhagic meningitis occurs in 50% of patients and should be treated expectantly with antibiotics that cross the blood-brain barrier.

Gross pathologic examination of patients with anthrax reveals hemorrhage, edema, hemorrhagic necrosis of the thoracic lymph nodes, hemorrhagic mediastinitis, focal hemorrhage at portal of entry, and hematogenous spread (meningitis <"cardinal's cap"> and gastrointestinal tract infection)

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and this:

Bioterrorism: Background and High Priority Agents

<snip>

Inhalational anthrax is the most lethal form of anthrax. The incubation period typically ranges from 1 to 7 days but may last up to 60 days. Initial symptoms include mild fever, muscle aches, and malaise. Inhalational anthrax has a high case-fatality rate, progressing to respiratory failure (with radiographic evidence of mediastinal widening) and shock. Cutaneous anthrax is the most common form of the disease and appears to require lower doses of spores rubbed into the skin or introduced into cuts in the skin. The incubation period ranges from 1 to 12 days. A skin lesion evolving from a papule, through a vesicular stage, to a depressed black eschar, characterizes cutaneous anthrax. The lesion is usually painless, but patients may also have fever, malaise, headache, and regional lymphadenopathy. (Note: Recent cutaneous anthrax cases had lesions clinically identified as “Brown Recluse bites”). Gastrointestinal anthrax usually follows after eating raw or undercooked contaminated meat and can have an incubation period of 1 to 7 days. Symptoms are severe abdominal pain followed by fever and signs of septicemia. Lower bowel inflammation typically causes nausea, loss of appetite, and fever followed by abdominal pain, hematemesis, and bloody diarrhea.

http://www.acponline.org/bioterro/as_sum2.htm

Is it time to re-examine Vreeland? Seeing just how much migh or might not add up?



http://www.gaianxaos.com/SpecialReports_files/vreelandnote.htm

[donsu]

11. kick

nt

[ColumbusGirl]

10. How sad...

And so young.

There are so few good journalists out there who are willing to put their necks on the line.

[Sophree]

13. Literally

"willing to put their necks on the line."

I'm with the tinfoilers on this one. Highly suspicious.

How incredibly sad.

[grasswire]

21. Plum Island

My ancestors were the lighthouse keepers on Plum Island for two generations. I always wanted to go there, but no dice!

[BeHereNow]

17. Kick and Agree with Tinore...

We need to keep track of these reports and incidents.
I am looking for a link right now about the DARPA Pharma-bio
program.

BHN

[BeHereNow]

18. Tinore:

http://www.fpnotebook.com/ER117.htm

Just scratching the surface as far as the Pharma-Cartel's involvement.

[BeHereNow]

19. More here:

http://www.fpnotebook.com/PSY168.htm

CHECK OUT THE SYMPTOMS....

This is a link from a message in a group discussing
anti-depressant withdrawal- I am still waiting for people to
connect the dots between the anti-depressant seige
and the bio-chem war being waged world wide.
There IS a connection and I am convinced history
will reveal it.

BHN

[Tinoire]

20. I Will! And while I'm reading up on that will you look at this?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=82238&mesg_id=82238&page=

and tell my why a man in DK's position would find it necessary to mention mind control in the 'Space Preservation Act of 2001' and again in the a House Floor Statement Against The Weaponization of Space.

Makes you wonder what's going on behind the scenes

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=82238&mesg_id=82238&page=


On edit: I think we better start a thread or just PM for a while lest we hijack this sad thread about yet another untimely death.

[BeHereNow]

22. WHOA-

Thanks for that! How did I miss that thread?
So much happening so quickly- it is hard to keep up.
And yes, we should probably start another thread
as, to not high jack this one.
BHN

[9215]

23. Great stuff!!

I missed this too. Never heard anyone call Kucinich a :tinfoilhat: This is very interesting.

I don't think we are hijacking the thread here, unless the person who started the post feels that way.

[prolesunited]

26. No, actually I found this discussion

quite interesting. I just threw this out there to see what other people thought.

I really wasn't here over the weekend and I'm just catching up. Screw the tinfoil hat. I'm covering my entire body. :scared:

[umcwb]

24. Nevermind

On edit: I didn't realize that this thread was kicked up from Friday. Thanks to NSMA for pointing this out. I apologize.


UMCWB
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