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NeoConsSuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 07:49 PM
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U.S. Treasury Said to Invest in Nine Major U.S. Banks
Source: Bloomberg.com

Oct. 13 (Bloomberg) -- The Bush administration will announce a plan to rescue frozen credit markets that includes spending about half of a total of $250 billion for preferred shares of nine major banks, people briefed on the matter said.

The companies are Citigroup Inc., Wells Fargo & Co., JPMorgan Chase & Co., Bank of America Corp., Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Morgan Stanley, State Street Corp., and Bank of New York Mellon Corp., the people said. One of the people also said Merrill Lynch & Co. will receive an investment.

None of banks getting government money was given a choice about it, said one of the people familiar with the plans. All of the banks involved will have to submit to compensation restrictions, said the person.

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The Treasury plans to spend $25 billion each for stakes in Citigroup and JPMorgan, people said. Another $25 billion will be divided between Bank of America and Merrill, which agreed last month to be acquired by Bank of America. Goldman and Morgan Stanley will each get $10 billion, while State Street and Bank of New York will get injections of about $3 billion each, people said.



Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=adm0lax5u714&refer=home



Buying preferred shares is a hell of a lot better than having the banks dropping off their toxic waste at the Treasury door and picking up a check.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 07:52 PM
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1. "none of the banks were given a choice"???? coerced into Socialism much?
Edited on Mon Oct-13-08 07:52 PM by NightWatcher
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:55 AM
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11. I cannot believe that the government can do this.
I just don't think that Congress (much less the president) has the authority under the Constitution to give money in this way to specific, selected private entities. This hand-out discriminates against smaller institutions that don't get anything. I think the controls on executive salaries are actually limits on tax breaks on executive salaries or something like that. (I don't think I am explaining it quite right.) As I recall, only salaries up to $500,000 are eligible for special tax treatment. The companies can probably figure out ways to circumvent this. They tend to be creative when it comes to grabbing money for the CEOs.

This is shameful. The money should be spent to encourage competition and to bail out borrowers, not these megabanks. Most of this money will be spent building factories overseas and shipping what few jobs are left to who knows where. Pretty soon, our hamburgers will be packaged and frozen in China and shipped over here to be warmed over at the local fast food joint. That's what this bail-out will fund.
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 08:03 PM
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2. The Dems were playin hardball....
Europe ponied up and we get an equity stake. And Obama gets to spend it at a later date.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 08:16 PM
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3. Two things they do: Up consumer credit interest rates, and bonuses for the top execs.
I'm worried. There are zero protections for consumers in this bailout. We need Sen. Carl Levin's bill passed protecting consumers against avaricious credit card rates.
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NeoConsSuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 08:23 PM
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4. Supposedly, there is compensation restriction
I think the Europeans put the squeeze on Paulson. The British had tight restrictions on the banks they invested in, including limits on compensation pay and bonuses. Once they announced their plans, Paulson's hands were tied.

I'm sure if it was up to Paulson and Bush, there would have been no restrictions on the banks they bailed out.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 08:25 PM
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5. Conceptually, This Is A Step In The Right Direction
Depending on the terms, of course.
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Deny and Shred Donating Member (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 08:38 PM
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6. Must have been quite a meeting
Hank : Hey guys, thanks for coming. How's roughly $25 billion a piece sound?

5 Banks : Uh, great. What did we do to deserve this?

Hank : Dunno. Hey, I mean how could I deserve it? A 30-year vet of Goldman Sachs - we basically invented derivatives - I know guys, quit laughing. Anyway, we're in the money.

5 Banks : Well, if that's all, I'm gonna go inform the board. We've got some stock to buy back. I sense roughly $25 billion in buy orders in the near future.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 08:43 PM
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7. I Hope the Bankers Are Miserable About It
and Paulson, too.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 07:31 AM
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16. why would/should they be...?
their uncle sam just gave them a HUGH low-cost loan to get them back to obscene profitability.
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 08:43 PM
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8. since my tax dollars are helping BOA, then they can stop charging
me a fee every month, right...?

:banghead:
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:57 AM
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12. libnc, I'm with you.
What are we getting in return for this bail-out? So far, nothing. This is ridiculous.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 08:47 PM
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9. This is a fascist takeover of the banking system, here is why...
<snip>
Imperialist War Needs Dictate Fascist Financial System Take-Over
Posted by challengenewspaper on October 3, 2008

Lenin explained many years ago the stage of capitalism where the big bankers eat up the smaller ones: Imperialism is capitalism at that stage of development at which the dominance of monopolies and finance capital is established; in which the export of capital has acquired pronounced importance; in which the division of the world among the international trusts has begun, in which the division of all territories of the globe among the biggest capitalist powers has been completed. (Lenin, Imperialism: The Highest Stage of Capitalism, 1916)

FACING WORST CRISIS SINCE GREAT DEPRESSION
U.S. capitalists caused the financial crisis they now seek to solve with drastic measures like the stalled $700-billion bank bailout. Over the past 30 years, they drove house prices sky-high and workers’ wages down, creating the conditions for subprime loans. Financiers got rich, for a while, by trading these worthless instruments as if they were pure gold. But that joy ride has ended and left U.S. banks in a deep hole. The staggering consequences include a $1.2 trillion New York Stock Exchange plunge on Sept. 29th amid a spate of bank failures. And U.S. bankers’ woes extend far beyond Wall Street.

The profit system ties a nation’s capacity to exploit foreign labor, markets, and raw materials by armed force to the strength of its financial institutions. The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), U.S. imperialism’s leading think-tank, is worried. “The issue today is whether Wall Street turmoil will produce similar pressure for the United States to look inward—and indeed whether its capacity to sustain an international role may have been compromised” (CFR website 9/29/08).

To maintain their global dominance, U.S. bosses are undertaking an unprecedented restructuring of their troubled financial system. Wealth and power are concentrating more and more into a handful of megabanks like J.P. Morgan Chase, Citigroup, and BankAmerica. The bank bailout, a massive infusion of capital to such firms from a Treasury run by Wall Street stalwart Henry Paulson, is part of the plan. The big money boys continue to fight for it despite its Sept. 29th rejection on Capitol Hill. They also call for stricter government regulation of markets.

Through these proposed new regulations and massive consolidation that will give the ruling class more direct control over the financial sytem than ever before, the major U.S. capitalists are advancing economic fascism.

RULERS WANT CONGRESS UNDER MILITARY DISCIPLINE
The bailout’s failure in Congress (which may prove temporary) highlights a major obstacle on the finance capitalists’ road to fascism and war. An inefficient political system, especially the House of Representatives, hinders actions they sorely need. With every house seat up for grabs in five weeks, most reps opportunistically pandered to their voting bases rather than support the bankers’ vastly unpopular bill.

U.S. rulers formed the Hart-Rudman (H-R) commission in 1999 to guarantee their world supremacy well into the 21st century. In 2001, it had proposed downgrading Congress’s cumbersome one-member-one vote rule in favor of a five person “leadership team” to “review the totality of Executive-Legislative relations.” It was to consist of “the Speaker of the House, the Majority and Minority leaders of the House, and the Majority and Minority leaders of the Senate” and consult directly with the “the President, the Vice President, the National Security Advisor, and senior cabinet officers.” Complaining of self-serving reps, Hart-Rudman said “Only by having the five most powerful members of the Congress directly involved is there any hope of real reform.” One “reform” was that “every member of Congress…participate in one or more war games per two-year cycle” at the National Defense University.

Bush dropped the ball after 9/11, implementing only one of H-R’s 50 provisions (Homeland Security). Expect more ruling-class calls to clean up Congress following the bailout debacle.

As for the White House, the rulers hope the presidential race will produce a protector of the U.S. empire far more capable than Bush. The CFR is “looking for signals from both campaigns on how Obama and McCain would restore the economy, and thus maintain the ability to project power abroad” (website, 9/26/08). But the Establishment’s New York Times (9/30/08) laments, “Senator John McCain and Senator Barack Obama were far from Washington, bit actors at best in helping to resolve a crisis that one of them will inherit.”

As this economic tsunami is hitting U.S. bosses harder than any other imperialist, the constant allusions in the media to the 1930s are telling. U.S. rulers long for a Roosevelt-style president who can implement the economic discipline they need before they can mobilize to confront rivals like China and Russia militarily. Over the course of a decade of far-reaching economic programs, FDR was able to raise taxes on the ruling class to pay for the consolidation and militarization of U.S. capitalism in preparation for WW II. So we can expect more drastic finance-capital sourced initiatives, like the bailout, under the next administration.

The ruling class, in the midst of a crisis, looks for opportunities to prepare for future conflict. For workers, the financial mess shows voting is a dead end. Obama and McCain are in fact competing to see who can best serve the most powerful camp of war-hungry bankers. We have to take advantage of every opportunity to expose the failure of capitalism and build confidence in our class and our Party as the future of humanity. Investing time and effort in building the revolutionary, communist Progressive Labor Party represents a far better “growth strategy” for our class. Financial disasters and wars are built into the profit system. It will take a long time to get rid of it. But efforts today will reward generations to come.

http://challengenewspaper.wordpress.com/2008/10/03/imperialist-war-needs-dictate-fascist-financial-system-take-over/

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 09:23 PM
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10. This paragraph is worth repeating
Hardly anybody is saying this and it's damned annoying.
"..capitalists caused the financial crisis they now seek to solve with drastic measures like the stalled $700-billion bank bailout. Over the past 30 years, they drove house prices sky-high and workers’ wages down, creating the conditions for subprime loans. Financiers got rich, for a while, by trading these worthless instruments as if they were pure gold. But that joy ride has ended and left U.S. banks in a deep hole. The staggering consequences include a $1.2 trillion New York Stock Exchange plunge on Sept. 29th amid a spate of bank failures. And U.S. bankers’ woes extend far beyond Wall Street."

I also agree that this is fascism. No good can come of this entanglement of government and the top financiers who have done nothing but screw us over forever. I was for buying their bad debt with the understanding an Obama administration would regulate them so it wouldn't happen again. But government and corporate investment money together IS fascism - and they're going to have the freedom to use depositor money now too. This is just not good.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 04:06 AM
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13. I know and it can all happen before election day
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 07:29 AM
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15. "...the government's role will be limited and temporary..."
socialize the risk, privatize the profits.
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Poseidan Donating Member (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 06:55 AM
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14. i'm formally against the plan
Anything done now should be guaranteed short-term. Paulson, like all members of the Bush administration, is either evil, incompetent or both. Obviously, he was ruined by the Bush-touch.

The best solution is to hold off ruin until the Bush administration is gone.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 07:33 AM
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17. it WILL be short-term...
as soon as they get a whiff of profitability again, we'll be shown the door.
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indio55555 Donating Member (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 08:12 AM
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18. 250 billion here 250 billion there....
Why does it matter? It's the taxpayer’s money they can pay it right? Meanwhile Sue and Sam are struggling to keep up. This is nothing more than a temporary fix…. The pieces are already in play for a huge downturn still. This will look good for a week or two. The markets will go up, but the 500 trillion in derivatives haven’t showed up yet. When that happens even safe banks like Bank of America won’t be able to stay safe.

More money will be pumped while Sue and Sam get pink slips.
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