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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:53 PM
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IBM Expands R&D In China
Source: Information Week

The new facility will focus primarily on information analytics, Web-delivered service computing, cloud computing, and stream computing.

October 14, 2008 02:00 PM

IBM (NYSE: IBM) on Tuesday announced the opening of a new R&D lab in Shanghai, China, to redouble its efforts on Web-based services, including cloud computing.

The facility is an extension of the IBM China Research Laboratory in Beijing, one of IBM's eight research labs worldwide.

"Our extension in Shanghai adds to the significant research and development presence in China and increases China's position as an innovation hub for IBM," Dr. Thomas Li, director of IBM's China Research Laboratory, said in a statement.

In addition to cloud computing, the Shanghai campus will focus on information analytics, Web-delivered service computing, and stream computing.

Cloud computing is emerging as a buzz phrase these days but does represent a significant shift in computer cycle resource pooling and server consolidation as organizations are facing extreme data overload and skyrocketing energy costs.




Read more: http://www.informationweek.com/news/services/saas/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=211200449



What's wrong with a new R&D facility in the U.S.? Oh.....Nevermind.
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:56 PM
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1. the bleeding continues... and CONgress is on vacation..as usual
Edited on Tue Oct-14-08 01:56 PM by lib2DaBone
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ChromeFoundry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:58 PM
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2. haven't all the main arteries been tapped yet? n/t
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Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 01:59 PM
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3. FU IBM
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boomerbust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 02:34 PM
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4. IBM
Should be taxed into oblivion.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 06:04 PM
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9. You got it! n/t
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antimatter98 Donating Member (537 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 02:39 PM
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5. Not out of character for IBM for decades...but..
IBM has had research labs situated globally for decades, and these have been tied to
product development labs very closely since the mid 80's.

But, I'm not up on what IBM has done with US research labs--whether they have been
expanded or closed since 1990, so I can't comment on whether the company has
'de-committed' from the US for R&D. They certainly have in manufacturing (the
Endicott NY lab and plant have been sold off years ago, for example, and of course
the laptop business sold to China recently).

I'm not defending IBM at all. I think an Obama White House should look at all
corporate outsourcing to see where we're at in 2009, and make plans to deal with this.

Last, I will point out that a friend of mine who runs a university math program in
financial mathematics was told to make plans to recruit Chinese candidates because
US candidates were substandard. This might give a hint why IBM may not be
interested in the US as a 'seat of creativity' in the future.

My impression, having
taught at the university level is that US students are not academically inclined
compared to Asian students, and lack the drive to do well in higher level studies.
Sorry to say. Its chicken and the egg--- why expect more of students if there are
no jobs to employ the achievers, so you recruit overseas students who will do well
and return to their home country to excel and be employed appropriately. Why get
a PhD in the US if you end up as a Walmart clerk. (many students I've had who were
born in the US go to China with their advanced degrees where they are paid for their
work appropriately and don't have to flip burgers...)

Just saying.
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blue97keet Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 03:28 PM
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7. Look what creativity in "financial mathematics" has done for our
mortgage risk etc. management lately. Recruit Chinese candidates and maybe it can do the same for China.:sarcasm:
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 06:11 PM
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10. I don't buy the "underachiever" argument.
Study: There Is No Shortage of U.S. Engineers

"Dukes 2005 study corrected a long-heard myth about India and China graduating 12 times as many engineers as the United States, finding instead that the United States graduates a comparable number."

http://www.eweek.com/c/a/IT-Management/Study-There-Is-No-Shortage-of-US-Engineers/

:hi:

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Azlady Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 06:20 PM
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12. Ditto... I don't buy the underachiever argument either.. thanks n/t
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 04:35 AM
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17. My degrees are in hard science.
I saw no significant difference between my Chinese peers and my American peers in study habits, social habits, motivational drive or overall grades. I never had difficulty competing with Chinese students and often tutored them in Chemistry and Physics.

All of my Iranian classmates, on the other hand, consistently ranked in the top 1%. In my senior and graduate classes, they regularly obliterated the curve. I could speculate as to why the Iranian students were so much better than the rest of us, but clearly this exercise is merely anecdotal, as is the basis for your claim that Chinese students outperform American students.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 07:39 AM
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18. The selection process for students contemplating foreign study
is more rigorous in some countries. I had a former student from Ethiopia who was doing poorly in the chem class he was taking. He came to talk with me because I had taught the chem lab that he was a student in the previous semester. He was concerned that, if he failed, he would be severely punished on returning home. He was in tears.

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boomerbust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 02:45 PM
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6. The Conservative Arguement
We must guard against socialism but still allow our capitalist companies to do business in communist countries. These pigs should be taxed right into oblivion.
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 03:39 PM
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8. Well , they will then leave the US altogether ...
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 06:15 PM
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11. Then they'll go out of businesss. (nt)
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UndertheOcean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 06:35 PM
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14. Not if their market is Global.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 07:03 PM
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15. I agree........let them go out of business! n/t
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:13 AM
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20. Stop buying their hardware for the Military and stop buying their PS3 CPU's!
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Azlady Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 06:22 PM
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13. K&R
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 09:50 PM
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16. You're just one rec shy
:)
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 10:12 AM
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19. Why does IBM hate America?
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