Reporters were given 20 minutes each to look at Bush's medical records

[NNN0LHI]

Just now on CNN's Newsnight. Had to go into a room take a peek and get the heck out ASAP. Whats with this stuff? I thought we were going to be able to see them? Guess not.

Don

[aquart]

1. 20 minutes to see how many pages?

Jesus, George, what are you afraid of?

[WillParkinson]

4. Why should this be a problem?

Once you get past all the blacked out pages there should only be a paragraph or two left.

[Mel]

11. 400 pages

is what I heard.

[SadEagle]

13. CNN.com does say ~400 pages...

They also say, right in the blurb:

"None of the documents relate to service between May 1972 to May 1973, when Bush transferred from Texas to Alabama."

[Media_Lies_Daily]

15. Bwahahahahaha!! This bullet is too big to dodge!

[calimary]

18. And they said this was EVERYTHING?

And reporters got a big, fat, whole 20 minutes to look through 400 pages.

[Scairp]

26. No

The various news orgs who were reporting on this said that the documents released publicly amounted to around 400 pages. If they gave a specific number of pages in the medical records that were not released and could only be viewed behind closed doors, I didn't hear it. I doubt it was as many as 400 though.

[ChompySnack]

2. PR-Nightmare for them if the press doesn't let it pass

They are forgeries and letting them out would expose that!

[0007]

3. Your kidding?

[NashVegas]

5. Then What Was That Stack Terry Moran Was Holding on WNT?

A Prop? Heehee.

Or did I just hallucinate him standing with a two-inch-thick wad of papers?

[kskiska]

7. Those weren't the medical records

The medical records are being kept under lock and key. He said that someone was coming out of the W.H., summoning each reporter to take a peek at the medical records. David Gregory said so on Hardball, I think it was.

[Insider]

6. really?

'cuz "BUSH ORDERED THE RELEASE OF ALL MILITARY RECORDS"

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[Nancy Waterman]

9. This seems to be sticking

It has been on the news constantly. Too bad for you.

[poppabear36]

10. yeah, like -

No WMD's, Halliburton ripping off American tax payers, Cheney's secret energy meetings, Bush failure to prevent 9-11, Bush stonewalling 9-11 committee.
Uhm - do you want me to continue?
This issue goes to character.
Once Joe Publis sees the issue of Bush's character, he no longer gets a pass on any of these other issues.

[Shadder]

12. Oh look, another one

I'd welcome you, but what's the point?

[mountainvue]

14. Supposedly

they released 400 pages.

[mouse7]

16. All the medical records are pre-1972, not needed anyway

Nobody has really questioned what Dumbya did prior to his refusal to take a drug test in 1972. There are no medical records after Dumbya refused his flight physical. This situation will not turn on the investigation of said medical records.

[TacticalPeek]

20. All pre-1972? I would have sworn that a doctor's exam was required

for separation from service. Maybe that was just retirement, but I think it was ANY separation.

In fact, I remember it being one of the things that could hold you over your ETS date. No medical records clearance, no ETS. If your medical records were 'lost', they had to be reconstructed BEFORE separation.

Hmmmm.

[jmowreader]

33. You can waive it for normal discharges

They do encourage you (very, very strong encouragement) to take the preseparation physical if you're getting out on Chapter 4 (separation due to completion of obligated service--the standard "you did your four years, thank you very much, good luck in your civilian career" discharge most people receive) or Chapter 16 (force reduction due to overstrength), but any other chapter of the Administrative Separations regulation or any chapter of the Medical Separations reg requires it.

It's very hard to claim service-connected medical problems after discharge if you don't take the physical, which is why it's so recommended.

However, if you choose to waive the physical, they send you and your records to a doctor. He looks through them and decides whether you can waive the physical--if you were on sick call once every six weeks, he'll probably say no. If you never went on sick call, he'll probably say yes.

[Journeyman]

17. So they should make the most outrageous claims possible. . .

about what they think they saw, and force BushCo to prove them wrong.

Later, they can claim the brevity of the initial look confused them.

[AZCat]

19. Seriously- How many times can they make this claim?

How many times have we heard that this is all the documents?
5? 6? It's amazing how childish this has become.

[jean]

21. I hope the reporters had a strategy going in...like they each look at

however many pages and the next person looks at the next pages, etc. At the end they could compare notes. This sounds like it would never happen, right?

[Matilda]

27. You beat me to it.

Great minds, etc....

[Manix]

22. Maybe they didn't want them to notice any failed drug tests

nt

[lpbk2713]

23. NBC News tonight made an interesting point.

That when the White House releases something newsworthy on a Friday afternoon it is usually something they would rather not disclose at all. They pointed out that when something hits the media late on Friday it won't get much coverage on Saturday.

[DoYouEverWonder]

35. I don't think that the Friday news dump trick works anymore.

What is happening lately, is that they try to bury this stuff by releasing it late in the day on Friday. It peculates around on the internet, where it either gets verified or discredited. By Monday, if the story still holds up to scrutiny it makes it into the mainstream press.

Besides, the WH is no longer in control of the news cycle. This story and all their other scandals are now coming to a head and the public is finally waking up. Everyday is another major revelation.

[kskiska]

24. Here's the link to what's in the papers

Many Gaps in Bush's Guard Records

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A40964-2004Feb13.html

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=364127


Then there is his medical history, set out in more detail than many Americans might want to know. He had his tonsils removed as a young boy, had appendicitis when he was 10 and at 14 had an operation to remove a cyst from his chest, leaving a scar. At the time he applied for entrance into the guard, he had a hemorrhoid, the location of which was charted with military precision.

more…
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/14/politics/14MILI.html?ex=1077426000&e ...

[JCMach1]

25. MSNBC reported this morning-- no records from the critical

period.

[NNN0LHI]

28. CNN reported the same thing just a few minutes ago n/t

[dbt]

29. Anybody else getting Watergate Flashbacks from this?

Are you hearing the sound of stonewalling? Is someone from the regime being allowed to twist slowly, slowly in the wind yet?

Does the phrase "I am not a crook" begin to ring any bells?

:evilgrin:
dbt

(The hell of it is that the press has been in bu$h's back pocket for so long that they may let him skate yet again!)

[DoYouEverWonder]

36. More like Floodgate this time

And unfortunately they are the Floodgates of Hell that are being opened this time.

The Watergate scandal was contained to the WH. Floodgate is of global proportions. This is just the tip of the iceberg.

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[fishnfla]

30. This Calhoun guy is on our front page this am (Daytona paper)

69 years old, freshly and copiously Grecian formula'd up for the big race! Claims he saw the chimp 6 times between May and Oct. '72. Bragging how he voted for -gulp-Goldwater! Complain how his revelation is ruining his weekend (Daytona 500)

[underpants]

34. Why does someone read training manuals at a postal unit?

Does that make any sense?

the F102 had already been decommissioned. I understand that TM's an such are still put out for maintenance reasons and the like but how much reading could there be?

[Robb]

31. This seems really familiar

...OK someone with a better memory... isn't this what happened with Iraq's weapons program files? Fill in the gaps for me, if you remember.

[underpants]

32. Reminds me of the 5 minutes enviro groups got about the Energy policy

The story came out that Dick didn't even meet with enviromental and consumer groups to discuss his energy policy. Dick sent staffers to talk to each group, or to have 5 minutes each, in a room with several of them and they hadn't even been given the policy as it was at that stage to comment on . They basically came in and read their mission statement.