Mumbai attack: US backs Indian proof of Pak hand

[cosmicone]

Source: Times of India

NEW DELHI
: The US has endorsed the evidence gathered by Indian agencies about the complicity of Pakistan's state actors in the terrorist attack
on Mumbai, in what can result in stepped up international pressure on the Zardari regime to take action against the mentors of Lashkar-e-Taiba.

Top US intelligence official John Michel McConell is learnt to have expressed complete satisfaction with the strength of India's
case against Pakistan, based on FBI's examination of call records of satellite and cellular phones used by Mumbai attackers and their Pakistan-based handlers.

McConell confirmed that one of the numbers logged on the satellite phone the terrorists used while navigating their way to Mumbai belonged to known Lashkar terrorist Abu Al Qama. Indian intelligence officials are familiar with the satellite phone that Qama uses. The US, using its leverage with Sharjah where Thuraya is headquartered, corroborated this fact, and also the fact that Qama was passing instructions to the attackers from Pakistani soil.

India's case about the Pakistan hand has also been borne out by the data the Americans retrieved, using their superior technology, from the damaged mobile phones used by terrorists while they were carrying out the massacres in Taj and Trident hotels. The phones had got severely damaged in the fire that broke out during the gunfight.

Read more: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Mumbai_attack_US_backs_proof_of_Pak_hand/articleshow/3882282.cms

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Now for action against Pakistan with severe economic sanctions until Pakistan closes terrorist camps, hands over terrorists and guts ISI.

[BunkerHill24]

1. for fuck sake how many terror attacks happened in Pakistan just last year?

Did we forget just last and recently attack at the Marriott at Islamabad?


What about the killing of Ms. Bhutto?


India and Pakistan both have terrorists living among them.


The issue is Kashmir. They ought to solve it together.

[cosmicone]

3. The terror attacks in Pakistan are also orchestrated by the ISI

for political reasons. Benazir was assassinated because she was a threat to the ISI-Military complex. The longer the US supports the military and ISI in Pakistan, the longer ordinary people of Pakistan will suffer.

Kashmir is not really an issue. It was silent until 1989 when the ISI sponsored and empowered terrorists were moved from Afghanistan (where they defeated USSR) to Kashmir to give India the same medicine.

Kashmir ceases to be an issue when Pakistan is balkanized and weakened.

[bottomtheweaver]

5. The issue is Pakistan's nukes.

And Pakistan, the ISI, Lashkar, and any other Muslim organization you'd like to name or invent had nothing, but NOTHING to gain from this attack.

[cosmicone]

6. Yes they did.

They carry out these attacks to internationalize the Kashmir issue which is a bilateral issue. Pakistan is treaty-bound to keep it as a bilateral issue. However, Pakistan gains by internationalizing it to bring pressure on India.

You need to read up on the subcontinent and the shenanigans of Pakistan the illegitimate failed state.

[ohio2007]

7. Taliban had something to gain and , it is starting to pay dividends

Pakistan Moves Troops Away From Afghan Border

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (AP) -- Pakistan began moving thousands of troops away from the Afghan border toward India on Friday amid tensions following the Mumbai attacks, intelligence officials said.

The move represents a sharp escalation in the stand off between the nuclear-armed neighbors and stands to weaken Pakistan's U.S.-backed campaign against al-Qaida and Taliban close to Afghanistan.



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http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2008/12/26/world/AP-AS-Pakistan.html?_r=2&hp

Taliban and their 'rogue' supporters continue to play out the hand they are dealing...

Pakistan cancels troops' leave over India tension

ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - Pakistan's army has canceled leave and ordered troops to report to duty because of tension with old rival India over last month's militant attacks in Mumbai, a military official and soldiers said on Friday. Tension has escalated between nuclear-armed Pakistan and India since 179 people were killed in a militant assault on several places in India's financial hub that India has blamed on Pakistan-based militants.

"Leave has been canceled because of the situation. All soldiers have been asked to report to duty," said a military official who declined to be identified.Pakistan's military spokesman was not available for comment but several soldiers confirmed that orders had gone out calling soldiers back from leave.




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http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE4BP16V20081226

Taliban can celebrate and continue to ramp up their rule in shariastan which
of course, is being left unnoticed in the west

... ban applies on Swat residents on Jan. 15

ISLAMABAD (AFP)






Taliban leaders in Pakistan's troubled northwest Swat valley have banned ( X/X chromosone carriers) from attending school, threatening to kill any X/X chromosones student, officials said Thursday.

The threat was delivered this week by local Taliban commander Shah Durran in an address carried on an illegally-run radio station in the area, local officials told AFP.

"You have until Jan. 15 to stop sending your X/X to schools. If you do not pay any heed to this warning, we will kill such X/X ," one official quoted the commander as saying.

"We also warn schools not to enroll any X/X chromosone students; otherwise, their buildings will be blown up."


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Education has suffered badly in Swat as a result of the ongoing fighting between Taliban-linked militants and security forces, with only a handful of schools still open in the region's main city Mingora, Khan said.

The government had reached a deal with the rebels in May to gradually pull out troops and introduce an Islamic justice system in exchange for an end to rebel attacks, but the violence eventually resumed.







http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2008/12/25/62773.html

Hope you all study up....

there will be a test

[bottomtheweaver]

8. Occam's razor, my friend.

Remember that handy hogwash that's supposed to cast doubt on troublesome conspiracy theories? Well in this case I'll give it some credit. None of these inane claims about al-Qaeda recruitment or Lashkar or the ISI or Kashmir holds a drop of water and we both know it. The issue is simply Pakistan's nukes. India would like to see them taken out and so would the rest of the terra gangsters including us. But don't worry, you won't have much trouble selling your snake oil.

[ohio2007]

9. the inconvenient truth you tin foil conspiracy theorists have is

:tinfoilhat:
a reality on the ground that rears its ugly head.
How do school children impact a few closely guarded nukes holed up in a weak Pak government 'controlled' Fort Apache in the badlands ?

snip



This is 164th school that was exploded by the militants in Peshawar and adjoining areas while after the final warning given by the militants to the parents...

snip
http://www.geo.tv/12-27-2008/31354.htm

:tinfoilhat:
btw,
How do you spin Mugabe's grip on Zimbabwe ?

bc the rest of the gansta's don't care for what he does to his ghetto Crib since no snake oil pipeline is projected to run inside it that benefits country "X" ?

:sarcasm:

[IMPERIUM V]

2. Fuck off in your khaki shorts, chicken hawk

NO TEXT

[cosmicone]

4. I am wearing a blue striped suit hahaha n/t

[xchrom]

10. this is all very bad -- whether we like it or not

some very very unsavory characters exsit inside the Pakistani Goverenment -- and it's the unwillingness to deal with that
that continually leads us to this point.

[ohio2007]

11. Pakistan's Probe Finds Local Links To Attacks On Mumbai ( admits to the inconvenient truth )

ISLAMABAD -- Pakistan's own investigation of terror attacks in Mumbai has begun to show substantive links between the 10 gunmen and an Islamic militant group that its powerful spy agency spent years supporting, say people with knowledge of the probe.

At least one top leader of militant group Lashkar-e-Taiba, or "Army of the Pure," captured in a raid earlier this month in Pakistani-controlled Kashmir, has confessed the group's involvement in the attack as India and the U.S. have alleged, according to a senior Pakistani security official.

The disclosure could add new international pressure on Pakistan to accept that the attacks, which left 171 dead in India, originated within its borders and to prosecute or extradite the suspects. That raises difficult and potentially destabilizing issues for the country's new civilian government, its military and the spy agency, Inter-Services Intelligence -- which is conducting interrogations of militants it once cultivated as partners.
Pakistani security officials say a top Lashkar commander, Zarar Shah, has admitted a role in the Mumbai attack during interrogation, according to the security official, who declined to be identified discussing the investigation. "He is singing," the security official said

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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123068308893944123.html

It's a shame nobody understands the words

[varun]

12. No doubt about Pakistani involvement in Mumbai attacks

Even the lone terrorist survivor's father in Pakistan admitted that his son talked about Jihad before disappearing. Pakistan's former prime minister Nawaz Sharif admitted it, and now some other Pakistani government officials are admitting that there might be Pakistanis involved.

BTW, how many Indians have been involved in worldwide terrorism (Bali, London, Madrid, 9/11)?

On the other hand, every one of these events have been linked to Pakistani terror camps.

[varun]

13. Pakistani Militants Admit Role in Siege, Official Says

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/01/world/asia/01pstan.html?_r=1

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — Pakistani authorities have obtained confessions from members of the Pakistani militant group Lashkar-e-Taiba that they were involved in the terrorist attacks in Mumbai in November that killed more than 160 people, a Pakistani official said.

The confessions are sure to put pressure on Pakistan’s leaders; senior Pakistani officials have repeatedly complained in recent weeks that India had not provided them evidence of Pakistani complicity.

American and British officials — and Indian investigators — have said for weeks that their intelligence clearly points to the involvement of Lashkar in the Mumbai attacks. That evidence has been deeply uncomfortable for Pakistan, whose premier spy agency, the Directorate for Inter-Services Intelligence, helped create, finance and train Lashkar in the 1980s to fight a proxy war against Indian forces in the Indian-controlled portion of Kashmir.

But now, after weeks of stonewalling, it also seems clear that Pakistan may use its investigation to make the case that the Mumbai attackers were not part of a conspiracy carried out with the spy agency, known as the ISI, but that the militants were operating on their own and outside the control of government agents...