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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 10:27 PM
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Obama picks RIAA's favorite lawyer for a top Justice post
Source: cnet

As a presidential candidate, Barack Obama won applause from legal adversaries of the recording industry. Stanford law professor Larry Lessig, the doyen of the "free culture" movement, endorsed the Illinois senator, as did Google CEO Eric Schmidt and even the Pirate Party.

That was then. As president-elect, one of Obama's first tech-related decisions has been to select the Recording Industry Association of America's favorite lawyer to be the third in command at the Justice Department. And Obama's pick as deputy attorney general, the second most senior position, is the lawyer who oversaw the defense of the Copyright Term Extension Act--the same law that Lessig and his allies unsuccessfully sued to overturn.

Obama made both announcements on Monday, saying that his picks "bring the integrity, depth of experience and tenacity that the Department of Justice demands in these uncertain times." The soon-to-be-appointees: Tom Perrelli for associate attorney general and David Ogden for deputy attorney general.

Campaign rhetoric aside, this should be no surprise. Obama's selection of Joe Biden as vice president showed that the presidential hopeful was comfortable with someone with firmly pro-RIAA views. Biden urged the criminal prosecutions of copyright-infringing peer-to-peer users and tried to create a new federal felony involving playing unauthorized music.

Read more: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10133425-38.html



Marvelous. First a heap of Reagan Republicans who call themselves "Democrats", now Sanjay "I just make crap up about Michael Moore" Gupta and this clown.

I'm starting to wonder about our man...
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cbc5g Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 10:30 PM
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1. Can't offend the corporate masters
DLC DLC DLC....sigh
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 06:08 PM
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36. That's the key.
Heinlein saw it coming - "The Senator from Standard Oil." Might as well be, I tell ya. I'm not sure I don't put breaking up the behemoths ahead of election and campaign finance reform.
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antimatter98 Donating Member (537 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 10:39 PM
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2. Obama continues to turn his back on those who elected him. What a disappointment.
And guess what: he could give a damn.

Pelosi and Reid are going to run the White House, that much is clear.

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Sultana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 10:43 PM
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3. Bows head in shame
:(
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 10:51 PM
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4. This bipartisan stuff is really giving me acid indigestion x10. Hangin' on
by my fingernails and hoping that this man knows what the hell he's doing, playing with them damn snakes, vipers and scorpions.

I sincerely hope the man has a huge horsewhip (for ass kickin'), a stool (to hold 'em back) and a can of Raid with him at all times.

I really do hope he remembers "us".

:scared:
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Shardik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 11:03 PM
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5. That sucks.
This worries me. I'm just about ready to remove my Obama Biden sticker.
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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 11:26 PM
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11. I think I may do that tomorrow. And remove myself from their email list.
At this point I don't see myself donating to him again. This isn't what we worked so hard for.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 11:05 PM
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6. No worse than Hillary
We didn't lose anything. Oh well. We tried.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 11:10 PM
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7. That's How I'm Starting To Feel
Sigh.
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DissedByBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 11:16 PM
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8. I tend to forget when I get behind a politician
That he is a ** POLITICIAN **

What part of that word do I not understand?

No different.

No better.

Ready to screw us on orders from his owners.

Just like the rest.

I now hold out only a vain hope that there is some master plan that I have yet to understand.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 12:09 AM
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15. It's the owners we have to dislodge ---
and DLC, right in the Democratic Party, is part of that ownership ---!!!

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

And what might be DLC influence over DU website?

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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 01:42 AM
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21. Don't go with the master plan. What you see is what you get, period. Time to face reality.
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DissedByBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 07:14 PM
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37. Depressing n/t
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 10:22 PM
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38. Yes, but the truth is better than a self imposed fiction.

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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 11:21 PM
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9. great ....a scum bag from the riaa
so much for the free flow of information. the riaa gave up suing moms and kids and are now forcing service providers to monitor our bandwidth use. change we can believe in....just do`t fileshare

oh well just another day in paradise or is it hell?
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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 11:24 PM
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10. Obama better not make me regret working for his campaign.
I don't want him to be a one term terrible president.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 11:53 PM
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12. Good thing we got the DLC types out! n/t
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EraOfResponsibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 12:03 AM
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13. awww, boo-hoo...Obama won't let me download illegally
impeach him now! :sarcasm:
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 12:10 AM
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16. Umm, haven't you heard of trading hard drives? It's so much more efficient. nt
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 12:11 AM
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17. Not The Point.
It's the RIAA's strong arm tactics. ...like suing grandmothers, 10-year olds and dead people. Corporatism at it's best.

Jay
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 12:51 AM
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19. I thought the RIAA failed miserably when it refused to embrace the new filesharing technology
and so they began picking off a few innocents, not so innocents and corpses and it costed them a ton of $$, time, bad publicity and never even put a dent into the trend. They created a sh*tstorm to the point where even the artists and musicians (especially the fresh new artists) found a way to avoid dealing with them altogether by going directly to the internet and embracing the technology.

So this pick bugs me for the simple reason that the RIAA and I have to assume those who are employed by the RIAA agree with the way Big Music does business and sees nothing wrong when a business refuses to modernize and get in tune with what the customer wants. It's so much easier to blame all of their woes on the very people who keep them in business by buying their product. Sounds like bad management to me.

I wonder, has the RIAA ever publicly admitted they screwed it up way back in the Napster days? I doubt it.



















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blendermax Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 02:57 AM
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23. The RIAA is a special/private interest

If I'm not mistaken the Justice Department is supposed to be about protecting the public interest, not a narrow private one. There are much more pressing legal cases in this country then for the Justice Department to be chasing after high school and college students as if they were terrorists and turning the Justice Department into a wholly-owned subsidiary of the record industry.

The RIAA can go after illegal downloaders all they want, and have the right to do so, but it should be on their dime and resources and not the taxpayers.
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 03:05 AM
Response to Reply #13
25. Why don't you just admit
that you don't know anything about this situation rather than blindly snark?
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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 12:30 PM
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31. Copyright extension isn't about downloading anything.
The constitution specifically spells out that copyrights MUST be temporary. For all practical purposes they are not.
This is more about the strong arm tactics, legal copying, and questionable constitutionality than wither someone can illegally copy music.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 12:06 AM
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14. Did you hear the rumor for Surgeon General . . . ???
CNN: Gupta approached about surgeon general post AP – 2 hrs 34 mins ago

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

H E L P ---
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 12:49 AM
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18. If this keeps up I may not answer the phone the next time his staffers call
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 01:10 AM
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20. Lawyers have no integrity, so I'm not worried.
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Cronopio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 02:48 AM
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22. As disappointed as I am about this, I still keep one fact in mind.
It could have been McCain making these appointments.
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blendermax Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 03:01 AM
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24. Well, this sure sounds like an appointment that Bush or McCain would have made
nt
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justsomeguy1973 Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 03:52 AM
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26. I don't get the sense that he's concerned at all about his base
Which is tragic. We put him there, and yes it's good to reach out. But he definitely makes me nervous doing stuipd things like this, because he's yet to truly prove he can keep all these people in line and that HE will champion our causes.

This appointment is garbage and Obama should be worried about being perceived as pandering to corporations if he EVER wants to see a 2nd term.
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KillCapitalism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 04:04 AM
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27. Great, just great.
With appointments like this we will continue to lose more rights to privacy. Assholes like this guy helped usher in warrantless wiretapping under Bush.

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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 08:26 AM
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28. No doubt John Conyers loves this pick since he's a buddy of the RIAA
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 08:31 AM
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29. Breaking: Obama appoints Money-Changer to run Temple. nt
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 09:55 AM
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30. If you didn't consider the implications of 'TRADE SECRET,' PROPRIETARY programming code,
in voting systems throughout the country, owned and controlled by far rightwing, Bushite corporations, with virtually no audit/recount controls, before, consider them now. For one thing, neither Barack Obama, nor any public official in the country, can prove that he or she was actually elected. I happen to think that Obama WAS elected, by a landslide, in fact--about 5% more than the "official count" reflects--but the fact that he can't prove it, and the fact that these far rightwing corps could have easily--EASILY--denied him victory, and can do so in 2012, greatly influences what he is doing now and will do in office.

Here's what I think happened. Obama's was a genuine insurgent campaign, with the enthusiasm and hard work of his supporters inspired by a determination to rid the Democratic Party of pro-war, pro-corporate leaders. The early momentum of his campaign during the primaries came from the caucus states, which are NOT counted by Diebold & brethren. He won something like 11 out of 15 of them, and was thus launched as a serious contender. Money started pouring in from the American people, whose contempt for our DLC leaders resulted in a 10% approval rating for the 2006 so-called Democratic Congress (worse approval rating than Bush, for godssakes!). The people clearly wanted real change. The money, and the volunteers pouring in, and the big crowds at rallies, kept Obama in the running. The people made him a serious contender. Hillary Clinton's Florida/Michigan strategy (ignore the rules, get early momentum as the 'inevitable' candidate) collapsed.

At that point, I think Obama underwent an early vetting by the global corporate predators who rule over us. He began his very distinct move to the right. Also, I think it suited the powers-that-be to have two big liberal groups--women and blacks--at each other's throats. The contest in the Diebold & brethren primaries (most of the country) went on and on and on. I don't think this was genuine--but was deliberately prolonged. Obama won it, and we should have realized then that nobody gets that far in a U.S. presidential election without a serious compromise of principles (if he or she has any, at that point), and a deal with the emperor-makers. The voting system is so egregiously non-transparent, and so corporatized, that it cannot be otherwise. These rightwing corps DO have the power to steal any presidential election, with almost no hope of detection. Half the voting systems in the country are 100% non-transparent. The other half are 99% non-transparent (use 'TRADE SECRET' systems with only a 1% audit; recounts almost never occur, and are very difficult to get).

Obama then had to win an all-Diebold-&-brethren general election, in which there was to be virtually no transparent vote counting--no hands raised, as in the caucus states, no ballot TO count in half the systems in the country, and things not much better in the other half. That is when the most serious vetting by the global corporate predators occurred, when Obama brought Biden on board, and when he made his deal with the Clintons. And that is when he became more the creature of the global corporate predators than the candidate of the anti-war, corporate-oppressed masses. And now we are seeing the results of that deal.

I happen to think that Obama is a good guy--good heart, very intelligent, wants to do good, and is not particularly beholden to any corporate predator interest (at least this was the case at the beginning). But he was running for emperor, not president. And I think we have to face this. Until We, the People, restore transparent vote counting--which is still possible to do, since power over voting systems still resides in local/state venues--our opinion doesn't count for much, and can easily be overridden, and our sovereignty as a People--our right to hold our leaders accountable--is nil. We are no longer a sovereign people. The global corporate predators are the sovereign, and they have the final say on who gets to be emperor, which means that anyone who wants to be emperor--for good or for ill--must obey them, not us.

Private, rightwing corporate, 'TRADE SECRET' vote counting is not the only thing wrong with our election system, by any means, but it was the coup d'grace--the final blow--to a democratic system that was already in deep trouble, from the filthy campaign contribution system, and global corporate predator monopoly control of the media. 'TRADE SECRET' vote counting makes reform impossible. It is the final blockade to real reform. And until we peel back the corporate veil that has been placed over vote counting, nothing is going to change. The Democrats-In-Name-Only are going to continue to serve war profiteer/corporate interests, and set things up for nazis like Cheney and Rumsfeld. It was Bill Clinton who bombed Iraq for 8 years, softening it up for invasion. It was Bill Clinton who shoved "free trade" down our throats, and down the throats of millions of people in South America (who are now rejecting it) and others. It was Bill Clinton who promoted the U.S. "war on drugs," and larded the fascist narco-thugs running Colombia with billions of dollars in military aid, to murder thousands of union leaders, peasant farmers, human rights workers and others in Colombia.

Which brings me to Obama's appointments. The one that makes me angriest is Eric Holder, Obama's new Attorney General. Holder was the high-priced corporate attorney for Chiquita International, whose execs paid $1.7 million to rightwing death squads in Colombia, who murdered some 4,000 union leaders and members over a 7 year period. Holder, in collusion with the Bushwhacks, rescued these execs, and got them a handslap (a minor fine, in corporate terms, payable over time) for whacking some 4,000 people!

To my mind, this was an unconscionable appointment, and it tells us exactly where Obama stands, vis a vis the global corporate predators who are running things. He stands under them. He feels beholden to them, not us.

The best thing we can do to help Obama achieve some independence from these fuckwads--if we judge him worthy (and he may be--I really don't know yet)--is to restore transparency to our voting system and insure that we can re-elect him. In my opinion, the bad guys' direct control of the vote counting is why he is making these dreadful compromises.

Again, I think the corporate 'news' monopolies are a big factor. They can make or break an emperor, or any public figure, at the drop of a hat--or that is how it has been up to now. They did it to Kerry. They did it to Dean. They did it to Kucinich. They did it to Edwards. Combined with Bushwhack NSA spying, they probably did it to Spitzer. Combined with Bushwhack politicalization of the DOJ, they did it to Siegelman and others. In California, they did it to our good Sec of State, Kevin Shelley, when he sued Diebold (six months before the 2004 election). They have been doing it to Hugo Chavez, president of Venezuela, for some time. There are many examples. I do think the American people are developing some immunity to these dirty psyops by the corpo/fascist media--which is one reason that 'TRADE SECRET' vote counting was so necessary to our rulers. (The bill that fast-tracked 'TRADE SECRET' vote counting all over the country was passed by the Anthrax Congress in the same month as the Iraq War Resolution--Oct '02). But the false narratives in the corpo/fascist media are still a big factor in elections. People may not believe them (--nearly 60% of the American people opposed the Iraq War--Feb '03, all polls--during the period in which the IWR and the e-voting bill were passed--despite intense, 24/7 warmongering and propaganda), but people do get demoralized under these onslaughts of propaganda. They are effective at confusing and disempowering people. And the billions of dollars raised from lobbyists and the super-rich, to pay for hugely expensive corporate TV ads, is also, of course, extremely corrupting.

'TRADE SECRET' vote counting is the final blow, though. It deprives us of the ability to elect real representatives of the people, and to protect them--to keep them in power, through re-election. Transparent vote counting insulates our leaders, to some extent, from global corporate predator influence. That is why transparency in our voting system was deliberately destroyed.

'TRADE SECRET' vote counting is better than assassination, I suppose (the raw method of the war profiteers, in controlling the emperorship, in the 1960s). It also means that our rulers are afraid of us--which I have always considered a good sign. Through the '80s and '90s, the corpo/fascist media prevailed as the primary fucker-up of our democracy. Now, the lawlessness and looting of these predators has gotten so bad that they MUST directly control the vote counting, along with everything else.

So that's where we should start, while we still have the opportunity to do so--that is, while control of the voting system still resides at the local/state level. (That could change.)
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 04:31 AM
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39. Wondering and worrying
about effect of these on Public's Right to Know the News.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8068904

How will Anti-Trust Chief play with these?
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Buenaventura Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 12:58 PM
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32.  ...we'll get a million volunteers into the YCL,
♪♩and sink this rotten system ♬ to the deepest pits of hell.♩♪

whoops - did i violate your fuc*king copyright? :grr:
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Boomerang Diddle Donating Member (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 05:33 PM
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33. Was he picked
because he's a good lawyer or because of his clientele?

I'll willing to bet it was based on his qualifications.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 04:38 AM
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40. I think so, too.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 05:39 PM
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34. I knew Bush was up to no good before 9-11 based on the appointments he was making.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 05:43 PM
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35. RIAA backing off lawsuits lately
Edited on Wed Jan-07-09 05:45 PM by mvd
It is my hope that they don't get emboldened again.. not that I'm for sharing copywritten music, but no way should it be a big offense. There's more to worry about. The internet makes it hard to police, too.
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