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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 01:50 PM
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$825 billion question: How fast will it work?
Source: Time

http://money.cnn.com/2009/01/27/news/economy/stimulus_spending/index.htm

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Tax Relief On The Way!..............
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kcks Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 01:57 PM
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1. It will
take a long time if ever for this type of action to help, give everyone a 6 month federal withholding holiday.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 02:03 PM
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3. That helps the tens of millions unemployed how?

And the tens and tens of millions of underemployed aren't helped either.

What is needed is the creation of good paying jobs. Giving a tax break to those who already have good paying jobs helps nothing.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 04:06 PM
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9. I smell freeper madness with that one. lol nt
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 02:02 PM
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2. President Obama is
Edited on Tue Jan-27-09 02:04 PM by Politicalboi
Killing the Repubes with kindness. :rofl: This is great. They were wooed like little school girls. I just saw them on MSNBC.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 02:12 PM
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5. Yeah, they looked like 'star struck groupies!' LOL! But still
posturing against increased spending. They are soooo short sighted!
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 02:09 PM
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4. again, I say..as long as huge corporations continue to send jobs
out of the country and benefit from cheap slave labour, nothing will change. stimulus is a band aid on a gaping bleeding wound.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 09:07 PM
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13. If contracts could be
limited to American Corporations, not Global ones, that would be great..although I don't know how many of them are left.
$32 billion to transform the nation's energy transmission, distribution, and production systems
$16 billion to repair public housing and make key energy efficiency retrofits.
$6 billion to weatherize modest-income homes
$10 billion for science facilities, research, and instrumentation
$6 billion to expand broadband internet access
$30 billion for highway construction
$31 billion to modernize federal and other public infrastructure
$19 billion for clean water, flood control, and environmental restoration investments
$10 billion for transit and rail
$14 billion for School Modernization and Repair Program
$6 billion for higher education modernization
$20 billion for health information technology


Tax cuts
$87 billion for a temporary increase in the Medicaid matching rate.
$43 billion for increased unemployment benefits and job training
$39 billion helping with healthcare under COBRA and providing short-term options to be covered by Medicaid.
$79 billion in state fiscal relief to prevent cutbacks to key services
$4.1 billion to provide for preventative care and to evaluate the most effective healthcare treatments
$15.6 billion to increase the Pell grant by $500
$4 billion for state and local law enforcement funding.
$27 billion to local school districts through
$20 billion to increase the food stamp benefit by over 13% in order to help defray rising food costs.


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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 02:46 PM
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6. Tax rebates will be immediate as returns are filed, other components
...as states get infusions of cash/credit and infrastructure items as projects as begun and jobs created. Lots of time there for repukes to drag some things out
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D-Lee Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 02:55 PM
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7. Repubs would probably like no-bid / no-strings contracts to spend the money
Hey,that worked so very well overseas! (Sarcasm.)

What kind of blather are they spouting? Gee whiz, it is just so awful and such a surprise that construction / infrastructure contacts need lead time for planning, approvals and bid solicitations. (More sarcasm.)

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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 03:31 PM
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8. At least poor women will be able to get unplanned pregnancies
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pjt7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 04:39 PM
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10. some tough times ahead no matter what
America has to realize we are in for rougher times & the snap you're finger, it's over dream, ain't happening.
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 04:40 PM
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11. $825 billion answer: Not fast enough! n/t
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 04:50 PM
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12. Who said it will work?
Edited on Tue Jan-27-09 04:51 PM by Baby Snooks
I don't recall anyone in Congress saying it would work. But, well, they have to do something. Might as well bail out the rest of the crooks after they bailed out Wall Street.
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 09:29 PM
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14. Throwing money against the wall won't work.
A total waste.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 09:56 PM
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15. Well, isn't that how 'bottom up' economics is supposed to work?
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 10:36 PM
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17. Nothing will work..
so we shouldn't bother doing anything. People think health-care will solve the problem. As if those jobs will come back if these global corporations are relieved of the burden of health care. I don't think people really care that much about other people's jobs. Too bad isn't it? I kind of liked some of this stuff. I haven't begun to read the 647 page package, have you?




$32 billion to transform the nation's energy transmission, distribution, and production systems
$16 billion to repair public housing and make key energy efficiency retrofits.
$6 billion to weatherize modest-income homes
$10 billion for science facilities, research, and instrumentation
$6 billion to expand broadband internet access
$30 billion for highway construction
$31 billion to modernize federal and other public infrastructure
$19 billion for clean water, flood control, and environmental restoration investments
$10 billion for transit and rail
$14 billion for School Modernization and Repair Program
$6 billion for higher education modernization
$20 billion for health information technology




$87 billion for a temporary increase in the Medicaid matching rate.
$43 billion for increased unemployment benefits and job training
$39 billion helping with healthcare under COBRA and providing short-term options to be covered by Medicaid.
$79 billion in state fiscal relief to prevent cutbacks to key services
$4.1 billion to provide for preventative care and to evaluate the most effective healthcare treatments
$15.6 billion to increase the Pell grant by $500
$4 billion for state and local law enforcement funding.
$27 billion to local school districts through
$20 billion to increase the food stamp benefit by over 13% in order to help defray rising food costs.


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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-09 10:01 PM
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16. We are entering a Depression..
... and no matter what the gov't does, we're going to be there for some time.

I think anyone expecting a "recovery" in less than 2-3 years is dreaming.
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