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ArchieStone1 Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 08:43 PM
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Gingrich becomes a Catholic, then has dinner at Café Milano
Source: The Hill

By Betsy Rothstein
Posted: 03/30/09 08:15 PM
Former Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) converted to Catholicism on Sunday and celebrated his new faith with some close friends at the hot spot Café Milano.

Gingrich, who had been a Baptist, attended Sunday evening Mass at St. Joseph’s Catholic Church on Capitol Hill and was confirmed into the Catholic Church that evening during a separate service.

Read more: http://thehill.com/in-the-know/gingrich-becomes-a-catholic-then-has-dinner-at-caf-milano-2009-03-30.html



I wonder what pollster told Gingrich that Catholicism is "in" this season.
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 08:46 PM
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1. Probably wants to drink a little more ! (Disclosure--I'm Catholic)
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 11:12 PM
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66. A Baptist's idea of heaven is being able to
drink in public.
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ColesCountyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 11:30 PM
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68. You beat me to it! LOL!
I am, too!

:hi:
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 08:46 PM
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2. He'll need to get his first marriage annulled to make his current one legal.
Those are the Catholic rules.
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 08:47 PM
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3. Very true
Edited on Mon Mar-30-09 08:47 PM by Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
That was my first thought when I heard this.
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 08:52 PM
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7. What about his second marriage?
Edited on Mon Mar-30-09 08:54 PM by Kingofalldems
I believe this is his third. If he were already a Catholic he would not be allowed to receive the sacraments.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 08:57 PM
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9. Not so ..........
Neither of his prior wives - nice phrase, no? - were Catholic, he was never before married in the Catholic Church, and so he is regarded by Mother Church as having never been married until he married this darling little Roman Catholic girl who didn't give that pesky old Seventh Commandment much attention when she was banging the married Speaker Of The House did she?

So, yeah, by marriage standards, Newt was only married once - I presume in a Catholic ceremony, since she's so damn devout - to his present concu .......... er, wife.

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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 10:23 PM
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46. Tangerine, it's mean, but I'm laughing
>since she's so damn devout - to his present concu .......... er, wife.<

I remember that wedding, and how horrified they were when their lavish registry choices were made public.

It's hard for me to believe that any woman would marry him.

Here's a question dumb as paste: Is she PG? After all, was this a sudden conversion?
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 10:39 PM
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53. OMG!
I had forgotten about those registry entries. They were totally craven, as I recall.

After all, it was only his third marriage.

I doubt she's knocked up. She's no longer the "younger woman," and I don't - oh, man, you're forcing me to go to That Really, Really Bad Place - think that ::: ahem :::: lovemaking - at least within the bonds of matrimony - is high up there on that fat fuck's agenda. Newt's never reproduced - for which we must all be grateful - so I suspect the unit fails when it's in captivity.

LOOK WHAT I FOUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Consider the wish list of former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and his soon-to-be third bride, Callista Bisek:

Twelve place settings of Waterford china in palest ivory rimmed with hand-applied bands of gold. Lacquer chargers painted gleaming gold to set off the dinner plates. Lead-crystal goblets, flutes and water glasses from Waterford etched with a delicate diamond pattern. Lenox flatware ringed with a gold band. For a more intimate setting, king-size, 280-thread-count, sateen Sandy Dune sheets from Ralph Lauren.

The registry of tableware, cookware and linens from Macy's and Williams-Sonoma, worth more than $14,000, suggests the taste and lifestyle of a couple who are planning formal dinners, not backyard barbecues.


http://articles.latimes.com/2000/jun/18/news/cl-42069

Don't you just LOVE these Internet(s) tubes, oh, sluttily-named one?
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 04:41 AM
Response to Reply #53
78. The unit fails when it's in captivity. Heh heh.
Think I read somewhere Newt prefers BJs.
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SomeGuyInEagan Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 11:28 AM
Response to Reply #53
94. Isn't the third marriage called the "craven marriage"?
Sort of like the wedding anniversaries (25th is silver, 50th is gold). After all, you only get married for the third time once ... why not celebrate it on your terms?
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 10:31 AM
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93. No, that's not true. If both were non-Catholic at the time, then the marriage was valid.
Edited on Tue Mar-31-09 10:48 AM by SharonAnn
Sorry.

You can't just convert to Catholicism and have your marriage invalidated in the eyes of the Church.

The key is that if BOTH of them were non-Catholics at the time they married, then the marriage is valid. However, if one or both of them were Catholic then they would have had to be married "in the Catholic Church" to be considered married according to Catholic rules.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annulment_(Catholic_Church)

"If someone has been married previously and the first spouse is still alive, he or she must get a Declaration of Nullity before entering into a marriage in the Catholic Church, even if neither party in the marriage was Catholic (privilege of faith being separate cases). The Catholic Church treats as indissoluble and valid every marriage when it is the first marriage for both parties. However the Church does not recognise as valid a marriage when one of the parties is Catholic but the marriage was not celebrated before a Catholic minister, unless a dispensation was first obtained."


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Scairp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 04:28 PM
Response to Reply #9
112. Um, not sure about that
There are some organizations that Rome doesn't recognize such as Scientology. I read somewhere that when Nicole Kidman got married in a Catholic ceremony to that singer (what's his name?), she was not required to obtain an annulment for her marriage to Cruise. They never felt she was married, but they do recognize just about any marriage that was performed in any Christian church. Civil marriages also are, I think, recognized. Canon law requires an annulment for almost all divorcees, and there are very few exceptions.
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Matilda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 04:13 AM
Response to Reply #112
117. She did get an annulment.
Second marriage was performed by the same priest who married Mr Matilda
and me, and he helped her with the annulment process.

The point is that her marriage to Cruise was legal, but it was not
valid in the eyes of the Church because of her Catholicism, so she needed
an official annulment in order to remarry in the Church. You can't just
say "it was never valid anyway"; you have to have it officially declared
invalid.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 08:57 PM
Response to Reply #2
10. Only if it was a Catholic Ceremony. Otherwise he gets the Pauline
or Petrine Privilege.....



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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 01:23 PM
Response to Reply #10
99. You are forgetting....
for a limited time only-I think til June-one can buy indulgences. Maybe that is why the late conversion. Maybe he can get an indulgence as a wedding gift.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:33 PM
Response to Reply #2
33. Is that true if it wasn't a Catholic marriage?
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 05:44 AM
Response to Reply #2
81. If the marriage didn't take place in a catholic church
they need a simple dispensation from the bishop of the archdiocese they are from. Then he and his wife would need to be married in a Catholic Church. (If he's interested in having it sanctified by the Catholic Church.)


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Summermoondancer Donating Member (315 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 09:19 AM
Response to Reply #2
89. Not if he didn´t get married in the Catholic church
if you don´t get married in the church the marriage is not considered valid anyway.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 01:24 PM
Response to Reply #89
100. Not true.
If neither were Catholic, their marriage is valid.

He would have to get his first marriage annulled.

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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 08:22 PM
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114. My mother and step father considered Catholicism
When their daughter was attending Catholic school. While they were talking to the priest about converting though, the priest brought up that my mother would have to have her previous marriages annulled. She didn't feel that was right so they didn't join.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 06:51 AM
Response to Reply #2
118. Annulment--Just Spend a few thousand dollars
It's the new indulgence for the NEW AMERIKAN CENTURY

He now belongs to a corrupt criminal organization

Similar to the political party he belongs to
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 08:49 PM
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4. And he secretly wants to be Italian.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 08:58 PM
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11. Like that's fucking ever going to fucking happen.....
I'm Italian. He's not.

He shouldn't even be thinking of Italian, because that will get him in trouble.

I know this.
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 08:50 PM
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5. They can let in someone whose been married 3X
but they'll protest Obama speaking at Notre Dame because he's pro-choice.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 08:51 PM
Response to Reply #5
6. Newt Gringich
Edited on Mon Mar-30-09 08:51 PM by dflprincess
is a faithful friend of the fetus, therefore, all other sins are forgiven.

I wonder if he'll stay Catholic after he dumps this wife for #4?
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:01 PM
Response to Reply #6
15. Want to cheer up?
I have this theory that he's very seriously ill, terminal, and he's doing what Wife Number Three wants him to do because he doesn't want to be alone as he croaks.

It's probably not true, but it makes me feel better, so I'm passing this theory along to you. Use it well, my child .....................
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:39 PM
Response to Reply #15
39. Bless you
:evilgrin:

Did you see "The Trial of Tony Blair"? It was a dark comedy on BBC America last year or so. The way they dealt with his conversion was hysterical. He was desperate to convert so he could go to Confession and be absolved of his sins regarding Iraq. It's a little dated now because it had Hillary Clinton as president, but it would still be funny.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:00 PM
Response to Reply #5
14. A married man with no hint of adultery about him,
a dedicated and devoted husband and father, a man who is the exemplar for everyone in this country, and those asswipes at Notre Dame think he's not good enough?

If only Obama were Irish, right?

Fuck the University of Notre Dame. But I say that as an Italian-American, so I like saying it ........................
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:12 PM
Response to Reply #14
22. The students are about 97% in support of having Obama, and the administration is
standing pat. It's all the bishops who are having fits and loudly showing their support for Rome by making a fuss.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:14 PM
Response to Reply #22
24. Good ..............
And you just know he's going to deliver one HELL of a commencement address.

Ah, yes, the Bishops, who do their best work while wearing Vatican-approved kneepads....................
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:17 PM
Response to Reply #24
25. Here's a place to give your moral support to the good folks at the Golden Dome:
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:22 PM
Response to Reply #25
28. Excellent!
Thank you very much! I signed that petition, which currently has more than 22,000 signatures.

Good show. Thank you for that.

:toast:
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:23 PM
Response to Reply #22
30. Bishops and unaffiliated far right lay groups
aka the Catholic Newman Society. They want 100% orthodoxy in schools and colleges or else. :crazy:
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:32 PM
Response to Reply #30
32. BTW - The Cardinal NEWman Society has nothing to do with the
Bishop NEUmann Society that serves Catholics at college.
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 05:47 AM
Response to Reply #14
82. For the record
the University of Notre Dame isn't the one that has problems with Obama speaking there. The administration of the college and the students stand behind him overwhelmingly. It's SOME alumni and the Bishops who are speaking otu against ND inviting Obama.


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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 10:07 PM
Response to Reply #5
44. Married 3x AND an adulterer, don't forget.
Sickening.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 10:44 PM
Response to Reply #44
57. Don't forget this yummy little detail:
Callista, the truly devout Roman Catholic girl who became Newt's third wife, had no compunctions about bending over the desk in the Office Of The Speaker Of The House when he Speaker Of The House was a Married Man.

Fuck that Seventh Commandment.

And now we all know what Confession is for ....................
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 12:56 PM
Response to Reply #5
96. Why do neocons love fetuses?
Republicans like Newt would marry a fetus, might not even divorce one...as long as it stays in the womb!

Once a fetus needs health care, food, love, and education..then even Newt will become avidly pro-choice.

Republicans hate life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. But they still have death, money, and lots of young blood..fresh for the sucking. :evilgrin:
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 08:56 PM
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8. I'd love to know what he said when he made his first confession.
The priest who listened got quite an earful I'm sure. If he was honest, lol. ;)
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:04 PM
Response to Reply #8
18. Oh, I'm sure he got
a General Absolution.

A priest with whom I had a hot and heavy romance used to return to his Jesuit Community after we'd spent the weekend together, and he always caught a General Absolution from one of his brothers.

He was also a lawyer. He had been one of my teachers in my Jesuit law school.

And if we don't know how to work the system, no one does .

Pretty slick, huh? Newt is now as pure as the driven snow, in the eyes of the Catholic God. Just in time for Easter, and the cries of "HE IS RISEN!" - a phrase I always associated with Big Dick Nixon rising up from the dead (an event that still frightens me).
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:09 PM
Response to Reply #18
20. Some day you'll have to explain exactly WHY you associate Nixon with that phrase, lol.
Edited on Mon Mar-30-09 09:10 PM by Avalux
It is a wonderful thing to have all sins wiped away 'just like that'. ;)

Maybe Gingrich and Buchanan can go on tour together.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:18 PM
Response to Reply #20
27. It's very simple:
Even though I'm no longer a believer - a Jesuit education, if successful, does that to you - I believe, honestly, that Evil truly walks the world in human form. I didn't think so when I was younger, but as I saw more and more of the world, I came to think that my Jesuit teachers, with whom I'd discussed this ad nauseam, were right.

Nixon, during Watergate, was my first hint of it. Since then, I've accumulated an ex-husband who fits the bill, and anyone who doesn't think Cheney isn't Evil Incarnate hasn't been paying attention.

So, when Nixon died, I made sure to tape the funeral ceremony, just so I could watch it over and over, to make sure there wasn't any sign of the coffin lid rattling. I had hoped for a glimpse of the corpse, but no such luck.

Still, I'm not entirely convinced he's dead, and, really, I'm prepared for him to make yet another comeback. I have my wooden stake sharpened and ready ..............................
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:23 PM
Response to Reply #27
29. Interesting!
Edited on Mon Mar-30-09 09:23 PM by Avalux
I know you didn't ask, but when I was 13, my rather strict Catholic upbringing was abruptly interrupted by a birthday present from my father. Darwin's "Origins of the Species". Now why did he do that to me? To this day he has never given me an answer but it set me on a path of reason and I had no choice but to abandon Catholicism.

I too believe evil walks in human form; no supernatural entities necessary. I'm not old enough to remember Nixon so I have no context of which you speak. Cheney though - I cannot fathom why that man isn't dead yet.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:32 PM
Response to Reply #29
31. Your Father
sounds like a truly great man.

What a lovely - and intriguing - thing to do. It sounds like he had a whole lot of confidence in his kid. And it sounds like his trust wasn't wasted.

One of the things that defined Nixon - and I'm old enough to remember this - is that he kept coming back. When he lost to JFK in 1960, he went into private practice of law in California. Two years later, he ran for Governor of California, and lost, famously declaring to the press that "You won't have Dick Nixon to kick around any more because, gentlemen, this is my last press conference."

Well, the SOB came back and won the Presidency in 1968. You know enough history to know what he and Kissinger did in Vietnam, causing thousands and thousands more useless deaths, and then, of course, there was Watergate.

I just don't trust him not to make yet another comeback. And it never occurred to me that he was human .....................
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:42 PM
Response to Reply #31
40. My father...
a truly brilliant man trapped in a small blue collar town. He is so much bigger than his surroundings and the one thing he taught me - think; question everything. No lecture came with that book.

If Nixon does make another appearance, I expect he might show up and claim Sarah Palin as his illegitimate granddaughter and then be given his own show on Fox. You have me wondering all sorts of strange things now. ;)
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 10:42 PM
Response to Reply #40
55. Wondering about Nixon's eventual return
is the first step on the road to wisdom, child .............

:toast:
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 02:03 AM
Response to Reply #29
75. Evil seems to act as a preservative.
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 10:37 PM
Response to Reply #27
51. Jesuit Education....OH FUCK
That was the last little piece to the puzzle...A friend of mine I'd fear to cross had that...
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 10:41 PM
Response to Reply #51
54. heh heh heh
Funny the things you find out on these Internet(s) tubes, ain't it?

Oh, yeah. I forgot to tell you.

You're doomed.............................
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 10:27 PM
Response to Reply #18
48. I once won free dinner in a radio station dating contest
when I divulged the fact that I'd been asked out by a priest. He said, "Just because I'm on a diet doesn't mean I can't look at the menu." I thought I was the only one!

>A priest with whom I had a hot and heavy romance used to return to his Jesuit Community after we'd spent the weekend together, and he always caught a General Absolution from one of his brothers.<

This is amazing. :hug:

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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 10:48 PM
Response to Reply #48
60. No wonder we get along, hmmmm?
They're just men.

And given what he spent on plane tickets to spend weekends with me (I was in DC, he was in CA), I figured he was just coughing up all those envelopes my parents put in the Sunday collections over the years ...........

Here's to us, oh, trampy-named-one ~~~~~~~~~

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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 05:49 AM
Response to Reply #18
83. Sadly, that priest's
absolution didn't mean squat if he didn't intend to stop having his affair with you. What good is a general absolution if you're not actually sorry for the things you are doing?


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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 09:32 AM
Response to Reply #83
91. Every Monday,
he swore it was over.

And he meant it.

He was mortal, doing the best he could ...............
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 01:05 PM
Response to Reply #91
98. Yes, priests are men
and subject to the same urges that all men are subject to. But if he went into confession with the intent to lawyerly bamboozle his way into a general absolution, it doesn't really mean anything. (Which is the impression I got from your original post.) The whole meaning behind confession is to truly atone for what you have done wrong while intending to do right.

I've never confessed to using birth control pills while using them, as I knew it would be a BS confession as I didn't intend to stop using them, even though I knew it was sinful behavior in the eyes of the church. (At that time, I also didn't go to confession for a period of 18 years because I thought it was all a bunch of hooey, anyhow.)

I can understand how someone would fail to live up to their vows to not engage in activities. It happens all the time. And I do believe that most priests do the best that they can even though they all sin. Having an affair is not so shocking in the whole scheme of things, but I personally felt that your prior post was pointing out the hypocrisy of the Catholic Church in regard to confession when, in reality, if he had no intention of truly giving up his affair with you, then the absolution he received really doesn't mean anything. It's impossible to gain absolution without true repentance according to the Catholic Church. (And sure, there are probably thousands of priests who ignore that. There are definitely people in the hierarchy who think that different standards exist for themselves and for the rank and file.)

Anyhow... I don't know what made me respond to your posts in this way. The other one just caught me out. I don't feel particularly incensed about the relationship you had with your priest. I am sure stuff like that happens all the time.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 01:26 PM
Response to Reply #98
101. You really do read a lot
into a glib, quick post on a message board.

He's been dead for almost twenty years now, but I do take offense at your presumptuous knowing of what was in the man's heart. I made a joke and you make assumptions. Then you went out of your way - twice - to let me know your position.

Clearly the notion of charity has penetrated your heart about as much as it might penetrate lead.

If you don't know why your responded this way, inflicting hurt on a stranger who never did a thing to you, then you might look within yourself for what drove you, and, in the meantime, leave innocent people out of your hateful charges.

Shame on you.
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 04:18 PM
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111. You are the one who mentioned
"working the system." I am sorry if I read something into that that was hurtful for you, but your implication that one can work the system of confession is false. One can't. I certainly don't wish any harm or "damnation" on your former lover, either. It was the implication of working the system that rubbed me the wrong way. Add to that the original idea about Newt and his Catholicism and potentiality for working the system, it all just left a negative taste in my mouth.

I am sorry if you thought that I was personally denigrating your friend. It was meant to be all about the process of absolution and how you can't work it.




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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 10:10 PM
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45. "Bless me Father, for I have just placed a fat check in your collection plate."
:shrug:
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 10:50 PM
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61. I thought it was something from The Onion
Really, I did....................

How did you get that cool DUzy thingie? I've won some DUzys. Can I get one?
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 01:40 AM
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72. Here's how...
You have to upload a copy of the image onto a photo site. I use photobucket (http://photobucket.com/). It's free and easy to use.

Once you've set up an account, right-click on the DUzy image and copy it to your computer.(You can use the one in my sig or there are other DUzy award 'styles' floating around out there on the board).

Upload the image from your hard drive to the photo site. In photobucket, you should then click on it to make sure you will be copying the full-size image and not the thumbnail. Right-click on the full-size image and go to "Properties". Copy the Address (url) up to the ".jpg" but don't include any numbers that may appear afterward.

Go to "Options" from the top of the DU page and click on "Edit your profile"- from there, you can choose to put the url for the DUzy in your avatar OR in your sig line, before or after any text.

Et voila!



(This is the JeffR-approved method, as he has asked that we not pirate band width from DU or other DUzy winners by using their urls.)


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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 09:30 AM
Response to Reply #72
90. You are SO nice!!!
Thanks a million for this perfectly wonderful information. To take all that time to give me this, well, thank you very much.

:toast:
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 07:27 PM
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113. You're quite welcome!
:)

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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 08:59 PM
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12. This is real?! I clicked on this expecting a punch line. LOL
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:00 PM
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13. Most adult converts are baptized and/or confirmed at the
Easter vigil on Holy Saturday. I've heard of people getting baptized during Lent before, but it's not the usual practice.

As for his previous marriages:

If both Newt and his wives were baptized Christians, and if the ceremony was performed by a minister (as opposed to a justice of the peace) he probably would have to go thru a formal annulment process.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:03 PM
Response to Reply #13
17. He certainly should have to go through with annulments. There is a very Fundamentalist Pope
in charge of the Catholic Church and it really is against the rules for someone like Newt to defy the Pope and many more conservative Bishops.

:eyes: At one time this would have been SHOCKING...but I guess not these days..so much..anymore.
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VaYallaDawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 03:35 PM
Response to Reply #13
108. I just realized -- you're so absolutely right!!
They don't usually do baptisms/confirmations during Lent, do they. He must have pulled some strings or something.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:03 PM
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16. Welcome to Opus Dei, Newtie.
:party:
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:13 PM
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23. Don't you just know it!
He and Scalia can now hang out and tell funny Inquisition stories and all those neat things that those Opus Dei closet cases do.

They leave me no choice, although I usually reserve this joke for Good Friday, when I call all the Catholics I know and make them listen to me tell it:

Three candidates for the priesthood, having completed their studies, had one more obstacle to overcome.

They had to appear, individually, before a panel of Catholic priests, old veterans, who would ask each young man one question. If he answered it correctly, his next step was ordination.

The first applicant stood before the panel. He was asked, "Mr. Brophy, what is the meaning of 'Immaculate Conception'?"

He replied, "Immaculate Conception refers to that fact that the Blessed Mother was born without Original Sin on her soul, the only one ever born that way."

The panel replied, "Welcome, Father Brophy."

The second applicant got the question, "Mr. Flannery, what is the meaning of the Assumption?"

"The Assumption is when the Blessed Mother, having lived her life and served as Mother to Our Lord Jesus Christ, was taken up, in corporeal form, to heaven," he said.

"Welcome, Father Flannery," they said to him.

The third young man was asked, "What is the meaning of Easter Sunday, Mr. Santucci?"

He replied, "Easter Sunday is the culmination of Lent, and it comes at the end of Holy Week, the time during which we commemorate the Betrayal of Jesus by Judas, his Crucifixion, his Death on the Cross, his Burial, and, finally, his Rising from the Dead on Easter Sunday, when he saw his shadow and we got six more weeks of winter."


I'm allowed to tell this joke. I got the credentials:





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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 10:43 PM
Response to Reply #23
56. The sinners are much more fun
Darling only the good die young.....
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 10:44 PM
Response to Reply #56
58. Sweet,
we're safe ....................
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:07 PM
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19. K&R #1 for, & he joins the ranks of Laura INGRAHAM & NOVAKula
And I just want to ASK, "WHY don't these 'religulous' people show more CHRISTIAN spirit?!1
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espiral Donating Member (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:10 PM
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21. Oy vey n/t
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:18 PM
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26. So now not only is Gingrich a serial adulterer but also a bigamist!
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Oldtimeralso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 12:32 AM
Response to Reply #26
71. I thought that a bigamist was an Italian fog.
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 01:41 PM
Response to Reply #71
102. Now that.....
should be a DUzy
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:33 PM
Response to Original message
34. Honest to God, I thought this was about the Grinch
I apologise to the Cat in the Hat, and all Dr. Seuss characters for implying they were anything like the Newt.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:34 PM
Response to Reply #34
36. But waht about the salamanders! Won't anyone think of the salamanders?!?!
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 10:46 PM
Response to Reply #34
59. Mike...
I missed it (the transgression) but accept. God knows any discussion of republicans drives so damn close as to be mistaken for satire...
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 10:53 PM
Response to Reply #59
62. You've got something against newt?
This is a Warty Newt. I like him because he's cuter than the RightWingNutDisgusting Newt:

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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 11:01 PM
Response to Reply #62
65. I love wee crawling slimy things...
except when they pose as humans.
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chuckrocks Donating Member (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:33 PM
Response to Original message
35. sweet jesus
wanted to see what she looked like. check out the voluntary info on this pic. love it. http://www.daylife.com/photo/06Zv0bm3w2f6n
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 10:36 PM
Response to Reply #35
50. Sweet Jesus Her Hair Is 20 Years Beyond It's Freshness Date
Either a small rodent died in there or she is BLIND.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 10:55 PM
Response to Reply #35
63. That was nine years ago ..........
I'm pleased to report that the years are not being kind to the Gingriches, which - I just noticed - rhymes with "sons of bitches" -

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VaYallaDawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 03:27 PM
Response to Reply #63
107. I loved your joke - new Good Friday fave for me as well (another RC)
Do you know the one about the difference between the Jews, the Episcopalians and the Baptists? (especially relevant to Gingrich's conversion from Baptist) --

The Jews don't recognize Christ as the messiah.

The Episcopalians don't recognize the moral authority of the pope.

The Baptists don't recognize each other in the liquor store.

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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 04:14 PM
Response to Reply #107
110. Thank you, thank you .........
It's the one day a year - Good Friday - when my friends are allowed to hang up on me, although none do, simply because I think they enjoy my mad howling when I hit the punch line.

Yours just broke me up. With your permission, I'm stealing it.

It reminded me of this old favorite:

A Catholic priest, a Protestant minister, and a Jewish rabbi (sometimes you have to spell out these things) are having a conversation about when life begins.

"At the moment of conception," the priest intones, "that is the beginning of life."

"At the moment of viability," the minister states, "that is the beginning of life."

The rabbi looks at them, shrugs, and says, "Life begins when the last kid leaves for college and the dog dies."
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VaYallaDawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 07:54 AM
Response to Reply #110
121. So true, so true, and great fun!!
I can already predict they'll need to re-insulate the confessionals with asbestos before either of us pokes our heads back in there again.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 06:54 AM
Response to Reply #35
119. LOL! It's an updated variant of this:

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8 track mind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:34 PM
Response to Original message
37. He must have saw the virgin mary in his martini. n/t
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:37 PM
Response to Original message
38. Newt wants to play with the big boys inside Opus Dei
That is the game he needs to play this season
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:51 PM
Response to Reply #38
42. Just great, and now I'm expected to get a good night's sleep
with that thought in mind!
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 09:51 PM
Response to Original message
41. Well, we'll see how many votes it bags him.
*
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ScaryBob Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 10:05 PM
Response to Original message
43. Bobby J. has finally got to him...
Or maybe he thought that as a Catholic he was entitled to all the "perks" of Catholic Priests... like doing exorcisms and spending quality time with altar boys.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 10:26 PM
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47. Hmmm...
Edited on Mon Mar-30-09 10:35 PM by Iggo
So the reps are gonna have an honest-to-god catholic running next time, eh?

Interesting...(oh and thanks for playing, Mittens).
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 10:31 PM
Response to Original message
49. OMG, he's running for Pope
Edited on Mon Mar-30-09 10:33 PM by L. Coyote
:rofl: Will the dress fit? :rofl:

Will Newt become infallible? Now that's not funny!
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 10:39 PM
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52. If he didn't have sooooooo much to confess, he would have stayed where he was

when you are about to explode with sin, one must take desperate measures.

Plus the churches are so much prettier. There, I said it.
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 10:55 PM
Response to Original message
64. After the exposure of Pedophiles
In the Catholic church, what's 3 marriages.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 11:16 PM
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67. Wasn't there something about Bush "approving" the new Pope
Edited on Mon Mar-30-09 11:17 PM by goclark
Seems like there were stories about a secret visit by GW to Rome or something like that --
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 01:43 AM
Response to Reply #67
73. I think THIS scenario is more likely re: Bush and popes:
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 08:11 AM
Response to Reply #73
86. OMG that is just wrong.
:spray:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 08:35 AM
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87. Stop it! I am ROTFL
:applause:
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-30-09 11:55 PM
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69. Republicans hate Catholics.
Edited on Mon Mar-30-09 11:55 PM by onehandle
They will smile sweetly at them during election time, but the core HATE them.

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 02:07 AM
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76. That's what makes this so adorably amusing.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 05:25 AM
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80. Yeah, I can't imagine him getting the nomination now nt
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 07:35 AM
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85. They need them to help on the wedge issues.
Reagan Democrats = Catholics
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 12:16 AM
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70. next, it's Mormonism, then Islam, then atheist - he's running the table for election support

typical future speech - '... as a former , I, Newt Gingrich understand your concerns..' blah blah blah
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 01:46 AM
Response to Original message
74. With the Benedict takerover of the RCC . . .
the right-wing coup seems to be complete ---

Dulles' nephew is now high up in the Vatican --

Blair is converting, supposedly -- or has already done so --

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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 02:25 AM
Response to Reply #74
77. 2,4,6,8 Time to transubstantiate!!
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 05:13 AM
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79. He often speaks of Reagan Democrats
The guy is obsessed with Reagan. He has said that Roman Catholic Democrats elected Reagan. He sees this as his chance to become president. The media loves his ass. I find him to be disgusting.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 12:04 PM
Response to Reply #79
95. Gingrich is robotic about delivering right-wing lying propaganda . . ..
and he's damned good at it!!!

Why anyone would have a positive reaction to him I can't say --
but it does seem to happen!

Meanwhile, remember Gingrich came up delivering his right-wing propaganda on
C-span when USHR chamber was empty! Almost every night as I go by C-span, there
are the Republicans chattering away -- and you can be sure that they will fool many!
The Democrats have to do something about this -- make sure Democrats are on with
equal times.

For more disgusting facts, Tip O'Neill as Speaker and Dick Gephardt decided NOT to
oppose Gingrich for re-election . . . "because Gingrich was in favor of a pay raise
for Congress." That's according to former Rep. Pat Schroeder/D-CO in her book!



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willing dwarf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 07:31 AM
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84. One more reason (for me) to give up on Catholic Church
I've been trying to hang in there, but between the unresolved sex scandal coverups, the incessant malediction of "Benedict" and now this... I'm reaching the place where I see there's no there there, not any more.

Mostly, I couldn't stand to be part of any club that had Newt Gingrich in it!!
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Summermoondancer Donating Member (315 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 09:18 AM
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88. Does this mean he will change his positions on immigration and racism?
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 09:40 AM
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92. Will he be denied communion because of his divorces, adultery, death penalty advocacy,
and other deep character flaws?
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 08:55 PM
Response to Reply #92
116. Only abortion supporters are denied communion. Pedophiles & rapists are welcome to the altar rail.
As it happened in Brazil recently.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 01:02 PM
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97. I hope it doesn't go to his head. Ooops to late that thing is so big it has its own orbit.
Sorry, completely off topic but I just really really wanted to make fun of his huge noggin.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 01:50 PM
Response to Reply #97
103. Well, it's his own fault. A genie asked Newt if he wanted a little head and he said "No."
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 02:30 PM
Response to Reply #103
104. Oh hell no! ROFL
:rofl:
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 03:07 PM
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105. He probably became Catholic because the new Pope is more in line with his beliefs.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-01-09 06:54 AM
Response to Reply #105
120. I never knew NEWT Shielded Sodomites of little 6 year old boys?
Edited on Wed Apr-01-09 06:54 AM by saigon68
Amazing what one learns here
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cadmium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 03:19 PM
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106. He's gotten all his divorcin' out of the way nt
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 03:41 PM
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109. It follows that Newt would want to become a follower of the former Hitler Youth Pope
They have so many war stories to share, Benedict and Newt.
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-31-09 08:24 PM
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115. His current fluffer must be a Catholic, no?
That's his M.O., if I recall correctly: get blow jobs from his intern/assistant/mistress while he positions himself for another divorce.

Therefore, the person currently blowing him must be a Catholic.
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