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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 08:39 PM Original message |
Father Alberto Cutié's fall from grace rekindles debate over celibacy |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
1. well -- he IS a cutie. |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 08:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Well, yeah.... |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 08:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. 7th: Thou shalt not commit adultery. |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 08:49 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. That one doesn't work....................... |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 08:59 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. So he has not sin? n/t |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 09:02 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. By having sex with a woman, yes, he has sinned, |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 10:09 AM Response to Reply #12 |
28. But that's by the Church's made-up rules |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 10:27 AM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Depends on your interpretation. Paul said people should be celibate, if they |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 10:46 AM Response to Reply #28 |
38. But the Bible was made up by humans. |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 11:55 AM Response to Reply #28 |
45. Actually, no, it's a violation of a Commandment ... |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 04:42 PM Response to Reply #9 |
57. Since "sin" is a human fabrication, just like gods and holy books - no. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 10:19 AM Response to Reply #6 |
31. Don't priests wear wedding rings, too? And aren't celibacy and chastity the same thing? Nuns also |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 11:59 AM Response to Reply #31 |
47. No, priests don't wear wedding rings, but, yes, |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 12:06 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. some catholics say many priest use wedding rings |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 12:33 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Well, if you accept postings on a message board |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 08:59 PM Response to Reply #50 |
60. I'm a catholic also |
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Mrs. Overall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 09:58 AM Response to Reply #47 |
65. Everything you say in this thread is correct about the vows and the distinctions |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 03:16 PM Response to Reply #6 |
53. its one thing to cheat in private but this was in your face and arrogant |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 03:29 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. I disagree ............. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 04:17 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. You are right about the vows. No one can not understand what it |
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Sultana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 04:55 PM Response to Reply #6 |
59. Eww, but Christ is our brother |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 10:13 AM Response to Reply #1 |
29. Did you ever believe that grace depended upon your celibacy, though? |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 11:15 AM Response to Reply #29 |
43. Nope |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 03:26 PM Response to Reply #29 |
54. none of the catholic priests i dated in college thought that. |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 06:30 AM Response to Reply #1 |
63. His boss is sort of upset |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
3. Why anybody is surprised about a priest lying, etc. is beyond me. |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 08:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. First, he's a man ....... |
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Hardrada (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 08:54 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Huh! I resemble that! |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 09:01 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Some priests take - HEY, CALM DOWN! - |
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Hardrada (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 09:07 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. I spent a year at a Lutheran Seminary and the only thing we |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 09:12 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. You big silly ........... |
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Hardrada (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 11:35 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. I swear, I am going to have to buy or rent that entire series. |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 12:15 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Yes, you should join netflix, if only |
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Hardrada (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 01:12 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Thanks. I'll give that a try. Incidentally I find myself repeating |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 10:41 AM Response to Reply #25 |
37. My roommate apologized for not being able to make it to my bridal shower. Problem was, that |
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Hardrada (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 01:45 AM Response to Reply #37 |
62. Yikes. That was too bad. Hope you could do a surprised look |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 10:36 AM Response to Reply #17 |
36. A vow of poverty does not mean that you cannot have income, only that you cannot keep it. I |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 12:01 PM Response to Reply #36 |
48. It's quite different for priests |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 08:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. I imagine the hierarchy will be so relieved that this priest |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 09:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. You're so right - |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 09:08 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. yeah, but they lost another priest |
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Baby Snooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 09:29 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. One less mouth to feed.... |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 10:26 AM Response to Reply #19 |
32. LOL not all priest are poor specially those on the right wing side of the church |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #32 |
46. They're probably the priests |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 10:28 AM Response to Reply #3 |
34. All humans lie and a priest is human. |
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mth44sc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 09:00 PM Response to Original message |
10. It might rekindle a debate somewhere |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 09:10 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. most fundamentalist churches will have party over this |
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CatholicEdHead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 09:21 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. Nope, not for a while with the current Vatican |
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ShockediSay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
20. A touch of levity - a priest and a rabbi, good friends, were sitting on a park bench |
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Tangerine LaBamba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 12:17 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Excellent!! |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-06-09 10:40 PM Response to Original message |
21. Priests that want to get married and live a faithful relationship get tossed. |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
26. Maybe God IS sending a message. Is the Church listening? |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 09:57 AM Response to Original message |
27. Worthless without the pics. So HERE are the pics!1 |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 10:18 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Did you notice he questions Fidel Castro on Medical Care |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 11:11 AM Response to Reply #30 |
41. Umm, yes? He's a member of the wingnut Cuban Exile community so it wouldn't be unusual for him to |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 04:53 PM Response to Reply #27 |
58. what a hypocrite |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
35. But that homophobic gas bag Bill Donohue was on the TV defending this guy |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 10:47 AM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Do you know of many organizations that keep their houses in perfect order? I sure don't. Heck, the |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 11:32 AM Response to Reply #39 |
44. good point n/t |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 01:21 PM Response to Reply #39 |
51. No, but then they have right to moralize about other people either |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #39 |
52. One of the reasons they lasted so long was that they murdered anyone who disagreed |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 10:47 AM Response to Reply #35 |
40. No kidding. Which basically means that they should all STFU. |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
42. i was prepared to feel a small bit of sympathy for him |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-07-09 09:03 PM Response to Reply #42 |
61. Best Post of the Thread (BPT). Here's what it's all about: |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 07:08 AM Response to Original message |
64. Sounds like the "Thorn Birds." |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-08-09 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
66. What,, "self abuse" is not good enough for the padre? |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-10-09 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
67. Abusing children is okay, wanting to marry the woman you love is bad |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-10-09 06:14 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Next stop- Episcopal Diocese of Miami |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-10-09 06:23 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. I am surprised that there aren't more Catholics joining the Episcopal Church |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-10-09 08:27 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. I always love it when the British comics take a shot at the COE |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-10-09 11:53 PM Response to Reply #67 |
73. It's like saying "I didn't have sex with that woman" |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-10-09 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
68. Did you guys know that Scalia's son is a priest? I'm thinking a gay one. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-10-09 06:24 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. No, I didn't know that. |
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