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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 01:56 PM
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Dobson 'Disappointed' Obama Skipped Day of Prayer Ceremony
Source: Washington Post

Evangelical author and radio host James Dobson said that he is "disappointed" that for the first time in nearly two decades there was no representative from the White House during the National Day of Prayer event.

"I have not asked to meet with the president and certainly he has not asked to meet with me, but I would just like this country to remember its foundation, to remember its heritage and honor it, especially on the day set aside by George Washington in the beginning for prayer in this country," he said. "And I would hope that that would have occurred."

Dobson and his wife were organizers of a four-hour program on Capitol Hill marking the nationwide day designated by Congress as a day of prayer and bringing together members of Congress, military leaders, ministers and an NFL star.

During a news conference following the event, Rep J. Randy Forbes (R-Va.) also expressed his disappoint with the White House for skipping what he said was supposed to be a bipartisan event, but which wound up heavily skewed toward the GOP side of the aisle.

Read more: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2009/05/07/dobson_disappointed_obama_skip.html?wprss=44
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 02:00 PM
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1. Indeed! Dang that seperation of church and state stuff. Dang that "my beliefs are personal" librul
crap anyways!

:sarcasm:
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 02:01 PM
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2. So, he cites a mythical prayer by George Washington as the basis
for this Constitutionally troubling official day?

Asshole.
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Tuvok Obama Donating Member (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 02:30 PM
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17. wow
I just did a little Googling and I'm finding nothing that connects George Washington to the National Day of Prayer.

Thanks for the education. These fundies will say anything they think they can get away with, won't they.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 02:54 PM
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26. That connection would be impossible to find since Washington was long dead before the first
Edited on Thu May-07-09 02:56 PM by No Elephants
National Day of Prayer was proclaimed. My guess is that Dobson is referring to some occasion on which Washington prayed in public. And he probably got the info from the D Of J brief on the National Day of Prayer lawsuit.

The Freedom from Religion people sued the U.S., trying to stop this day. There was a thread on the lawsuit this morning. The govt asked the court to dismiss the case, saying activities like this have gone on since at least 1775. Dobson is one of the parties taking the government's side in that suit. I bet you five dollars Dobson got his info straight out of the D of J brief.

On edit: Yep. Try this. http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGLA_enUS290US291&q=George+Washington+public+prayer+1775
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 06:03 AM
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50. Tuvok Obama? Are You Kidding Me?
That ranks up there with the best DU user names I've ever read. It's just a smidge late but welcome to DU and the fact based side of politics. :toast::hi:

Jay
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Tuvok Obama Donating Member (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 01:39 AM
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56. They both seem to have that whole "no sudden moves" thing nailed
favorite Vulcan, favorite Democrat
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 05:36 PM
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54. that's a longtime tactic, too
make up the most extreme RW quote or policy and attribute to a founding father -- they think most people are too lazy to actually check it anyway...

I post on other forums, and in other peoples' sigs I have seen the most RW reagan-rand fucktard quotes attributed to Ben Franklin/Thomas Jefferson....They just reshape the history of the founding fathers to suit their own needs...
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 10:53 AM
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59. For the religious, it starts with their quoting their holy books
which by any objective standard are nothing more than lies and legends. The religious beliefs serve as a gateway drug to lying about everything else.
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 02:02 PM
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3. DAY of prayer? Only fake religious people pray only one day a year.
Edited on Thu May-07-09 02:05 PM by Democrats_win
Besides, it goes back to the idea of praying in public. One more time: Jesus said not to make a public display of praying. Good for you, Obama.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 02:37 PM
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22. word up-
prayer isn't for the public- unless they are 'god'.

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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 02:02 PM
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4. Cuz he knows what yer prayin' for Dobbie.
And the phony repugs are just putting up with you for political purposes. Asshole.
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benddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 02:05 PM
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5. I'm not
obviously Pres. Obama has read the constitution and Dobson hasn't.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 02:40 PM
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23. What does the Constitution have to do with Dobson? Obama issued
Edited on Thu May-07-09 02:41 PM by No Elephants
the Proclamation making this a Natioanal Day of Prayer. IMO, that's a lot worse than sending one individual from the WH to pray with Dobson as a matter of personal choice.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 04:28 PM
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36. Ug. You're right.
:puke:

A national day dedicated to delusions that have been proven not to work at all. We're a really dumb country.

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ProgressIn2008 Donating Member (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 07:53 PM
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43. I know, Obama signed the Proclamation and defended the day - how is he a hero re: separation
of church and state?

Dobson is lowlife pond scum but Obama is still playing the religion game for political gain.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 02:06 PM
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6. President Obama owes the conservatives nothing
They despise him because they despise America and anybody who is not white, male, heterosexual and Christian.
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 02:07 PM
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7. Obama heard it was "show your son your wiener in the shower day"
he thought it sounded sorta kinda weird so he passed.
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Tuvok Obama Donating Member (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 02:17 PM
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12. omg
:o :D :7 :rofl:
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 02:46 PM
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25. That kid needs to run for his life.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 02:12 PM
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8. Our country's "foundation," you flaming dickwad,
is freedom OF religion, as well as freedom FROM religion.

Our country's "foundation," Dobson, is based on freedom from bigots like you.

Our country's "foundation" came about because of the very kind of religious tyranny you espouse.

So, get with the Constitution, Dobson, or STFU.

In the meantime, big KUDOS to President Obama for skipping this nonsensical "day". I'd prefer he show up for the Ground Hog Day observance, which is far more meaningful................

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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 02:16 PM
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11. What a post!!!
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

"Flaming dickwad" indeed!

:rofl:
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 02:23 PM
Response to Reply #8
13. Right on!! Great post!!
I was going to post something, but your post is perfect!
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 02:32 PM
Response to Reply #13
21. Admit it ...........
the picture of the groundhog sealed it for you, didn't it?



(Thanks................)
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 03:30 PM
Response to Reply #8
28. Doesn't that groundhog photo just make you want to
rub it's belly?
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county worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 02:13 PM
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9. Which is it?
the day set aside by George Washington

the nationwide day designated by Congress


Better yet, who gives a shit?:shrug:
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 02:15 PM
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10. Obama isn't a hypocrite
this is why he didn't care to meet with Dobson and his ilk.

They are still whining over losing their hold over the presidency and congress.
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Revolution9 Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 02:26 PM
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14. hey dobson!
BLOW!

you and your foaming followers are FAIL.
no longer is there need for the government to endorse your religion if there ever was one.

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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 02:29 PM
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15. Well, I'm disappointed that Dobson is disappointed.
But not surprised, of course.
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 02:29 PM
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16. And I'm disappointed that some sky guy hasn't yet called Dobson
HOME.

Hey, up there!!!!! Hasn't he done enough?????? Take him, already!!!!!!!!!!!
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condoleeza Donating Member (464 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 02:30 PM
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18. Geez, I guess Dobson figured Obama's already forgotten the campaign
and all the lies that Dobson told about the born alive act that went viral during the election.
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 02:31 PM
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19. Did they burn a cross or something?
Did they burn a cross just for the President and were sorry he missed it or something?
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 02:31 PM
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20. If Obama wants to pray, he doesn't need Dobson to do it.
I'm gratified that for the first time in nearly two decades the WH is not giving legitimacy to Dobson's hate group.
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rd_kent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 02:41 PM
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24. Who gives a rats A$$ what dobson thinks! n/t
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 03:00 PM
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27. After the way churches have played with politics since the early 80s
it comes as no surprise that finally a president would not attend the day of prayer. They (fundies) have pushed religion into the center of government and now they think we should continue to allow this unconstitutional stance to continue. Think again - fundies have done more to hurt religion since Falwell and Reagan combined the two than any outside force ever has. None of us trust them anymore and we also do not trust any politician that hangs out with them. It is their own fault.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 03:45 PM
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30. They're slowly grasping
the fact that their disgusting, power-mad behavior that was encouraged by the GOPigs who were so busy kissing their collective asses is now at an end. That's why the GOPigs can't figure out what to do next, and, believe me, I am SO proud of Obama for skipping this.

I'm very pleased with his severing these unacceptable ties. Those blowhards shouldn't have had any place in politics in the first place.....................
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 06:42 PM
Response to Reply #30
41. Yes, and that comes from a practicing Christian who believes in the
separation of church and state.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 03:44 PM
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29. That's good. If Dobson is upset, Obama must have made the correct move. nt
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bamacrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 03:53 PM
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31. Good, religion should be kept to ones self.
Especially for a president, they either need to observe all religions on prayer day or none and observe by your self.
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 03:57 PM
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32. Guess Dobsons not reading his Bible again...
Matthew 6:5-6:

"And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret."
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booley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 05:49 AM
Response to Reply #32
49. Funny how the Religious Wrong
Never seem to know what's in their own Holy Book.

Even my heathen Pagan ass knew this one.
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 03:58 PM
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33. Dupe n/t
Edited on Thu May-07-09 03:58 PM by FreeState
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Politicub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 04:18 PM
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34. It's makes me happy when Dobson and his ilk are disappointed
More, please!

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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 04:22 PM
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35. I'm very pleased. Nice to see Obama respect the separation of church and state this time around.
Oh, and Dobson? Washington was NOT a religious man. He refused a priest on his deathbed. Learn some fucking history, asshole.

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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 05:21 PM
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37. Sorry Dobby, Obama doesn't take orders from you. And I thought you retired. Be gone already.
Your 15 minutes has long come and gone.
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 05:23 PM
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38. Good for him.
Dobson can stick the "National Day of PRayer" up his ass. (Is that even possible?)

I am sure Obama has better things to do.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 05:34 PM
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39. This is just the best...
From Dobson's site:

May 7th is the National Day of Prayer. Will you join us in prayer on Thursday?

Yes 3%
No 98%
I don't know. 1%
Total Votes 31027

98% NO!
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 05:40 PM
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40. mitchum disappointed that Dobson is still not with his precious lord
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 07:05 PM
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42. Fuck you Dobson, you don't matter any more.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 11:03 PM
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44. Better Get Used to Disappointment, Dobson
and hope it doesn't evolve into jail time!
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 11:20 PM
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45. Jesus condemned public prayers like the ones in the National Day of Prayer
We are in the Sermon on the Mount, and Jesus has just finished instructing his disciples on almsgiving. After this, he turns to the topic of prayer. Let’s begin with verse 5: “And whenever you pray, do not be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, so that they may be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward.”

http://www.calvinpresbyterianchurch.com/sermons/sermon%20text%2009-14-08.pdf

Matthew 6:5-15 (New Living Translation)

Teaching about Prayer and Fasting

5 “When you pray, don’t be like the hypocrites who love to pray publicly on street corners and in the synagogues where everyone can see them. I tell you the truth, that is all the reward they will ever get. 6 But when you pray, go away by yourself, shut the door behind you, and pray to your Father in private. Then your Father, who sees everything, will reward you.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=MATTHEW+6:5-15
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 11:30 PM
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46. God "disappointed" Dobson is political shill who abuses faith
God, in an exclusive report on DU, said he is "disappointed" that Dobson remains a political shill for more than two decades.

God said, "You'd think the guy had made enough money off my name by now. You'd think the guy would be tired after whoring for the republican party for decades."

God went on to say, "I have not asked to speak with Dobson and I certainly have not told him to speak for me about an issue that has to do with politics among a small minority of the population of one country that is part of the entire world. I thought my position was pretty clear about the separation of church and state with that whole 'Render unto Caesar' line, not to mention the one about people who wail and gnash their teeth in public prayers."

"Some people," God noted, "will do anything for a buck. Just ask Judas."
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 11:34 PM
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47. Every day that Dobson is disappointed is a good day.
Didn't that kiddie-diddler retire already?
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 11:35 PM
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48. I'm so glad to hear that.
Dobson needs more disappointment in his life.
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 10:04 AM
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51. And Miss Cleo is disappointed Obama Skipped the Voodoo Blood Sacrifice Ceremony
He wasn't in the mood to watch a live chicken get it throat slit.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 12:46 PM
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52. It's a good day when Dobson is "disappointed."
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 03:58 PM
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53. Dobson was hoping he could shower with Obama and show him his penis.
Edited on Fri May-08-09 04:00 PM by Ian David
See also:

Dobson encouraged males to "shower naked" with their young sons
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2256199


Urban Dictionary: Going Dobson

When a grown man showers with a young boy, as encouraged by masturbation enthusiast Dr. James Dobson of Focus on the Family. According to Dobson, seeing a grown man's penis can keep boys from "becoming" gay.

"We're running late for school, so if you want to be ready in time I guess we'll be Going Dobson this morning."

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Going%20Dobson


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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 05:41 PM
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55. I hope he is even more disappointed when suckers stop giving him free money. nt
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 10:42 AM
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57. Oh, here it comes...and right on time at that...
I knew Dobson would blow this out of context. Dobson is more pissed off because his poodle isn't sitting in the oval office any more.:applause:
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-09-09 10:47 AM
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58. The real reason for the disappointment? Obama skipped the event,
and no one gave a damn! The Emperor has no clothes!
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