Bev Harris: Diebold Rebuttals Don't Stand Up

[althecat]

http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0307/S00224.htm

Bev Harris: Diebold Rebuttals Don't Stand

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1. SYNOPSIS OF THE STORY SO FAR

Diebold voting machines are used in 37 states. Four computer scientists published a 24-page paper last week, announcing stunning flaws that appear to make vote-tampering easy.

DIEBOLD REBUTTAL: "We believe that the software code they evaluated, while sharing similarities to the current code, is outdated and never was used in an actual election." "…the study did not use our current software code." http://www.dieboldes.com.

YES, the code examined by the scientists was used in actual elections. Evidence is provided below, along with questions you can ask Diebold to clarify their statement.

<b> QUICK RECAP: </b> The first-ever public examination of voting machine software, obtained when Diebold left it in the open on an obscure but public web site, revealed stunning flaws. "Our analysis shows that this voting system is far below even the most minimal security standards applicable in other contexts." -- Researchers from Johns Hopkins and Rice Universities, (already tagged as the "Hopkins Heroes") in paper just released: "Analysis of an Electronic Voting System":

http://avirubin.com/vote.pdf

Remote access has been left unprotected, encryption keys made available to hackers, you can vote more than once. There's more:

http://www.blackboxvoting.org/access-diebold.htm

-- You can overwrite votes. The system is vulnerable to both inside and outside attacks. Intruders can change audit logs. You can assign passwords to all your friends. (A list of links to news articles from last week is available at:

http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0307/S00219.htm

HOW TO STAY AWAY FROM TECHNOBABBLE: For general audiences, this is a story that might evolve into intimidating bafflegarb, but it doesn't have to, and here's why: Not everyone understands discussions about computer languages, but everyone knows what a cover up is. First, decide whether Diebold gives honest and complete answers.

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For MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MORE SEE...
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0307/S00224.htm

[Eloriel]

1. SUPER!

Haven't finished reading it, but you've got a formatting error on the Excuse #5 -- you forgot the same italic and larger type size you used for the rest.

Back to my joyful reading...

Eloriel

[hedda_foil]

2. Wow! Wow! Wow!

Kicking while I finish printing out the full text. Bev, Alastair, ET AL ... we SHALL prevail!

BTW, Alastair, and as a sidenote entirely, I was wondering if you've seen an unrelated thread which details exactly how many of us DUers were tipped to the fact that our DLC was a corporate mole in mock "liberal" clothing by a Kiwi who let us know what happened in NZ in the '80's. If not (and you're so busy I suspect that's the case) you might want to bookmark it to savor in the future.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=110&topic_id=378&mesg_id=378&page=

New Zealanders ROCK! And I, for one, will never, never, never, forget how much you wonderful folks have done to help us restore democracy in our country.

[PATRICK]

3. Blindsided by the right

Are we the kings of information? After studying stock ratings and performance of the illustrious Diebold Corporation I have come to the startling conclusion that there is yet another professional sector with tunnel vision.

Blinded by the right? It's so easy. They don't have to worry about sneaking into the blind spot alongside the victim. The professional vision of officials, politicians, media and now stock analysts is so circumscribed they literally cannot see what is happening beyond their remarkable talents and education.

Stock analysts are judging by statistics and performance with little capabilitiy it seems to investigate the various technologies upon which the very business is based.

And we seem to be in the blind spot too, given little attention despite shouting, publishing, communicating far and wide. No wonder it works even better for those using the added cover of lies which are barely needed and often very poor.

In the country of the blind then the kings are doing battle. They build false confidence, we shake it up. I would think those not wanting to go over a cliff might trust those with a better track record on the truth.

Diebold online webcast analysts conference: August 4,5. Circling the wagons but pretending they are still on the march to the promised land.

[bemildred]

4. Good job.

That ought to keep them busy for a while.

The larger point is that automating voting in this way
is boneheaded, it is the wrong solution to the wrong problem.

If they want to automate voting they need to do instant-internet
voting, direct democracy. If I have to go to their little voting
shop I want a piece of paper to fill out, it's a better, simpler,
less trouble-prone answer than all this buggy touch-screen crap.

[Resistance Is Futile]

17. Internet voting

If they want to automate voting they need to do instant-internet
voting, direct democracy.

And you think reliability and tracability are bad now....

With Internet voting, there is basically no way to provide a paper trail or protect the anonymity of the voter's decision. Internet voting opens up so many avenues for fraud and other abuses that it should never be implemented for use in any election of more than trivial importance.

[Trajan]

5. Wonderful .....

Bev and others are on top of EVERY reaction: ... providing HARD refutation of every lie posited by these Fraudmeisters ! .....

Al of Scoop ? ...

Bev ? ..

WE LOVE YOU ! ! ! !

Dances off in a state of near bliss .....

<I copied this from another thread ..... I am SO lazy ! >

[Lostnote03]

6. La Drip!!!

....Bev, you and your associates have played the media distribution like a piano....With the number increasing in support of House sponsorship it is just a matter of time before it becomes a political issue....I would love to see the CA. Attorney General place an injunction on the use of electronic voting as a means of stifling the recall effort....lol...best wishes

[Eloriel]

7. If that's what you want to see happen, have you called the AG

and insisted upon it? Have you emailed with links to -- ESP.!! -- the PIma County press release and report and the Johns Hopkins/Rice report? Or did you just think s/he could read your mind? (Not trying to be hard on you, just pointing out that this issue needs citizen involvement!)

Eloriel

[Lostnote03]

10. Of Course You are Right.....

.......not being a resident of Ca. I have attempted to do a little bit by notifying my A.G. of the rising tide wrt electronic voting....he is currently running for governor and I have been encouraging him and his staff to become vocal on this issue.....I believe that he will make a statement this weekend at our annual fall campaign kick-off.....wrt Ca. I must admit that I have not contacted the A.G. there however I will ask my A.G. to give him/her a call and forward the appropriate imfo along as well, which they have been documenting as well.....as a promise to you I will get in touch with the Ca. A.G. as well.....btw are you hiring???....I want to work for you.....lol....best wishes....

[jamesinca]

16. I did write to the people here in CA.

I feel so citizenly when I do such things. He responded back, so I know it got there. I have only written 3 letter in my life to a govt. person. One of them was a school assignment back in my collegiate years, that means decades ago. Two of them this year since February. That is a lot, I average one every 13 years of life. I have two in the last 5 months, because I hate George Bush. I do blame him for everything that goes wrong in this country. That is a lot of blame. I hold him responsible for future events too. I will not stand by quietly and let something like a voting machine take my vote away. Somehow in the middle of the night on my 3rd pot of coffee this is the fault of Bush also.

[Pavlovs DiOgie]

8. Thanks for posting this!

:bounce:

[greyl]

9. Here's the avirubin pdf in html form:

http://www.cosmicseed.net/a/vote2.htm

[deek]

15. thank you very much

stupid adobe *$!!#!

[0007]

11. This is more than outstanding information

I haven't read it all, but I will.

This is curtains for junior and his hooligans. Why? Because every politician lives by the vote.

This will be bigger than the FCC outrage. And when the republicans see the proof - 40 love - game over, if the politician wants to stay in office.

[glitch]

12. take action: pass this email around

subject: quick way to send fax/email to your representative re vote verification

http://action.eff.org/action/index.asp?step=2&item=2754

(Electronic Frontier Foundation is a highly respected pro open source internet group.)

TAKE ACTION! SEND A MESSAGE

Tell Congress to Fight for Secure Elections!
The 2004 presidential election may not be like the last one; it might be worse. Communities all across America are purchasing electronic voting (e-voting) machines, but there are serious security issues with the technology that aren't being addressed. Most of the machines use "black box" software that hasn't been publicly reviewed for security. Almost none of the voting technology companies provide voter-verifiable paper ballots. A recent analysis from several academic researchers outlines the many and varied ways that anyone from a technically proficient insider to an average voter could disrupt an e-voting system to defraud an election.

Send your representative a letter supporting the Voter Confidence and Increased Accessibility Act of 2003 (HR 2239) to require open-source software and voter-verifiable paper audit trails for all new e-voting machines.

For more information, please see the Formal Verification Group's resolution on e-voting. http://verify.stanford.edu/ and http://www.verifiedvoting.org/

Academic paper on security flaws in e-voting software. http://avirubin.com/vote.pdf

[4dog]

13. Thanks to NZ for the posts.

There was also something posted on 9-11 + 1 from NZ saying it wasn't who the press was saying did it but our own NWO. Anybody remember?

[stlsaxman]

14. Too late here in Missouri

Seems that HAVA is THE LAW... http://www.sos.mo.gov/elections/hava/Default.asp