GOP leader: Pelosi should show proof or apologize

[BlueJessamine]

Source: CNN

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A key Republican leader demanded Sunday that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi produce evidence to back up her assertion that she was misled by the CIA on the use of so-called "enhanced interrogation techniques."

Last week, Pelosi reiterated an earlier claim that she was briefed by the CIA on such techniques only once -- in September 2002 -- and that she was told at the time that the techniques were not being used.

A recently released Justice Department memo, however, says the CIA used waterboarding at least 83 times in August 2002 in the interrogation of Abu Zubaydah, a suspected al Qaeda leader imprisoned at U.S. facilities in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

Waterboarding, which simulates drowning, has been described by critics as torture.

"Lying to the Congress of the United States is a crime," House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, said on CNN's "State of the Union."





Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/05/17/pelosi.torture/

[Mythsaje]

1. Lying to Congress is a crime?

Then can we arrest Bush, Cheney, Rove, and the rest of those fuckers?

I didn't think so.

[Turbineguy]

2. Lying to the Congress of the United States is a crime?

You sure you wanna go there?

He needs to get the blood back to the Big Head.

[aquart]

3. Republicans gonna apologize for DOING the torture?

Yes, John. Lying to Congress is a crime. Punishment? None.

[Xipe Totec]

4. What GOP leader?

Just wait till Rush finds out sombody else is claiming to lead the Republican Party.

[Iliyah]

5. Majority

of Americans are trying to tune this bullshit out. Corporate media is losing their grip on influencing the masses. GOP you are losing, we are tired of this. Why don't the GOP focus on the economy, little America needs your help.

[rocktivity]

6. But the CIA themselves can't back it up

A Justice Department memo is a CIA briefing notes--especially when you're talking about a Bush II-era Justice Department. And the CIA has already been caught saying there were four briefings when there was only one.

:headbang:
rocktivity

[Beartracks]

7. Only two possible headlines...

... can come of this:

"Pelosi Vindicated, but Torture Still Illegal"

or

"Pelosi Lied, but Torture Still Illegal"

[Vinca]

8. Then Boner needs to apologize, too.

He said a similar thing back in 2007 on CNN. You'd think, since this interview was on CNN, they might have taken a few minutes to dig out the tape.

[Seldona]

9. These people are unreal.

They are just dragging anyone they can down with them now. Pathetic.

[Binka]

10. Hey Stupid Fuck Go After Bush And Crew

What a motherfucking assclown. Coward. Bastard. Fuckwittage. Tool.

[Vehl]

11. isn't the onus on the accuser to provide proof??

correct me if im wrong...but i think those who accuse her are the ones who need to substantiate their accusations...not the other way around.

[Lucky Luciano]

14. Seriously!

I declare Boner has molested 100 children. Now prove that you didn't Boner!

[louis-t]

16. I made the same comment the other day.

Only it went something like: "I swear I saw bush and cheney double-team a sheep on the WH lawn. But I could be wrong.

[msongs]

12. boner knows dems are weak. even with a dems majority, repubs control the frames. nt

[PSPS]

13. "Waterboarding, which simulates drowning, has been described by critics as torture."

Waterboarding, which simulates drowning, has been described by critics as torture.

I wonder how CNN would characterize the opinion of "non-critics" to a procedure "which simulates drowning."

I find myself growing fatigued over the worthlessness of the media.

[Javaman]

15. GOP needs to admit they tortured people or get the fuck out of the way. nt

[izquierdista]

17. Apologe??

I thought the only time Repubs called for apologies was when the great and powerful Limbaugh has been insulted.

[JI7]

18. stupid fuckers, they can't stand being led by a woman

[creeksneakers2]

19. Boehner is a hypocrite

This morning, Boehner repeated the current GOP talking point:

"If the speaker is accusing the CIA and other intelligence officials of lying or misleading the Congress, then she should come forward with evidence and turn that over to the Justice Department so they be prosecuted. And if that's not the case, I think she ought to apologize to our intelligence professionals around the world."

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/05/17/pelosi.torture /

But where was Boehner when a key member of the GOP contradicted the CIA's accounts of briefings on the destruction of interrogation tapes?

NY Times 12/07/07

In his statement, General Hayden said leaders of Congressional oversight committees had been fully briefed about the existence of the tapes and told in advance of the decision to destroy them. But the two top members of the House Intelligence Committee in 2005 said Thursday that they had not been notified in advance of the decision to destroy the tapes.

A spokesman for Representative Peter Hoekstra, Republican of Michigan, who was the committee’s chairman between 2004 and 2006, said that Mr. Hoekstra was “never briefed or advised that these tapes existed, or that they were going to be destroyed.”

The spokesman, Jamal Ware, also said that Mr. Hoekstra “absolutely believes that the full committee should have been informed and consulted before the C.I.A. did anything with the tapes.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/07/washington/07intel.ht...

Gingrich and others are making the case that its outrageous to say the CIA lied. But in Hoekstra's case the GOP did the same thing. And how can the GOP claim that the CIA is so honest about what occurred concerning torture, when we know the CIA destroyed the interrogation tapes? We also know those tapes were requested by the 9/11 Commission and weren't provided.

So the CIA lied and the GOP called them liars. Why the different standards now?

[Enrique]

20. produce the notes which she secretly took at the briefing!

produce the video which she secretly and illegally recorded with her secret camera brooch.

[libodem]

21. Tisk, tisk

she must grovel at the feet of Rush Limpbaugh, wimper and cry, I'm soooo sorry. Just as soon as Bush or Cheney ever say they made a mistake or that they are sorry. FU GOP!

[KakistocracyHater]

22. Hypocrisy is part of the NeoCon's Family Values

but we here already knew that, good for cnn to inform the rest of the country.

[laylah]

23. God/dess forgive me but

F**K them, the sleazy bastards! They have held this country hostage for long enough. When, OH WHEN, are WE, The People, going to call them on their bs?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[and-justice-for-all]

24. GO who? nt

[RFKHumphreyObama]

25. The idiot has spoken!

I think he's probably so stupid he doesn't realize the implications of his own words for members of the former administration. He's effectively opened the floodgates with those comments

[bemildred]

26. Well, I must say all this interest in honesty in government in refreshing.

I hope his interest in this subject is not limited to Ms Pelosi.

[Sandrine for you]

27. Waterboarding will become a new kind of drugs. nt