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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-18-09 06:59 PM
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Germans Deny Patent For GPS/Poison Microchip
Source: IO9

A Saudi inventor filed a patent for a "killer chip" which, once implanted, would monitor "undesirables" using a GPS. Oh, and it also comes with an extra feature: a remote-controlled cyanide dispenser, for murder.

This is like something out of Battle Royal, only real. Here's how the invention, which failed to make itthrough German Patent Law, would have worked:

The basic model would consist of a tiny GPS transceiver placed in a capsule and inserted under a person's skin, so that authorities could track him easily.

Model B would have an extra function - a dose of cyanide to remotely kill the wearer without muss or fuss if authorities deemed he'd become a public threat.

The inventor said the chip could be used to track terrorists, criminals, fugitives, illegal immigrants, political dissidents, domestic servants and foreigners overstaying their visas.



Read more: http://io9.com/5259933/germans-deny-patent-for-gpspoison-microchip
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whoneedstickets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-18-09 07:02 PM
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1. eventually we could all have one of these implanted..for public safety....
...you really have nothing to worry about if you're a law abiding citizen.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-18-09 08:36 PM
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7. Or in possession of something that one or more corporations desire
We are all pretty much screwed already, some would just like to make it more indelible
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-18-09 07:05 PM
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2. The German Government replies
"Are you fucking crazy? It's like something out of Hitler's wet dreams."

Good for them.
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-19-09 01:20 AM
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11. It doesn't even need to be a wet dream

Maybe just a slightly nice one, and they'll say "NEIN"
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uncle ray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-18-09 07:21 PM
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3. he can still make the device, he just can't get a german patent on it.
next stop, the US patent office.
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primavera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-18-09 07:44 PM
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5. Exactly
What do you bet the CIA already has these? I can see Cheney thinking this was the greatest thing since sliced bread.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-18-09 07:32 PM
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4. Well, domestic servants...I could understand that...
esp. those pesky underpaid illegal immigrant ones favored by the rich politicos.
Thinkk of how smoothly Senate confirmations would go if THAT little problem went away, so to speak.

Why is a Saudi attemtpting to get a German Patent?
Wouldn't the CIA give him a brazillion bucks for the patent?
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PSPS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-18-09 08:27 PM
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6. Didn't TSA already roll out something like this?
I read somewhere that they were thinking about issuing unremovable "bracelets" to everyone in the terminal to track them and, if they felt like it, begin tasing them too.

Oh, yes. Here it is.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-18-09 10:43 PM
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8. I posted about this too!
Isn't scary? Like something from a future dystopia....or a now-dystopia? You know that someone or some group will be very interested in this.
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KakistocracyHater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-18-09 11:28 PM
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10. You know it-probably "xe" Deathwater already...
...
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-18-09 10:48 PM
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9. didn't they make a movie about that?
escape from new york?
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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-19-09 01:26 AM
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12. We need to contact our Congress Critters
I think even the mere possession of such devices should constitute a felony that is punishable by 25 years to life imprisonment with no possibility of parole. The only exception being handling the devices as part of a criminal trial with mandated disabling of the device as soon as the trial has ended.
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-19-09 10:05 AM
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13. Man, this gives me the shivers and fills me with rage at the same time.
Edited on Tue May-19-09 10:13 AM by BreweryYardRat
I'm not sure if this invention would actually work or not (it doesn't have to work to get a patent, after all -- the patent is just so that other people can't use the idea without paying the patent holder), or even if the article's real. I sincerely hope it's a hoax. However, I'm going to react as if it's real until evidence to the contrary emerges.

***

In a sane world, this bastard would have been killed and his designs incinerated.

If the German government were really concerned about this, they should have gotten rid of him and destroyed his designs and prototypes.

Edit: Okay, it looks like he's a Saudi citizen who took advantage of a law allowing remote application. "Foreigners are allowed to apply for patents in Germany through a native representative, in this case it was a Munich law firm,"

Here's an original article from Germany: http://www.thelocal.de/sci-tech/20090515-19313.html

This...abomination...of an invention -- a device that has no purpose but to serve as an instrument of totalitarian control -- is an incredible danger to 99% of the entire human race. (The remaining 1% being the oligarchs, theocrats, dictators, corrupt intelligence agencies, terrorists, and assorted other power-craving scum who serve as a disgrace to the species.) It needs to go, and so does the man who invented it.

As for the publication of the article...on one hand, it's warning people what to watch out for, which is good. On the other hand, it's spreading the idea all over the world, whereas quietly disposing of the inventor and destroying his designs/prototypes might have kept it hushed up.

***

I deeply regret having to advocate this. However... We try to eliminate deadly diseases, and such a device, if it could be made to work as the designer intended, is more dangerous than any disease.
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-19-09 10:11 AM
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14. since you mention diseases it could as well be use for BIO terrorism
Edited on Tue May-19-09 10:14 AM by AlphaCentauri
instead of poison they could use any other pathogens
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-19-09 10:18 AM
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15. Ugh, I hadn't thought of that yet.
That makes it even worse.

Thankfully, a lot of the really lethal pathogens can't survive very long outside a human body, so they'd die off in the chip's storage area before it could be activated.
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-19-09 10:29 AM
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16. You could use his product to do that
It would be poetic. Like throwing the box that the trash bag came in, into the trash can, which contains the bag that came in the box.

"On the other hand, it's spreading the idea all over the world"

The idea for this type of control has been around for a long time. It's nothing new. We'll get there eventually, if the energy required to do it is available.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-19-09 10:31 AM
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17. Uh.....
You're going to kill somebody for an IDEA? Seriously?! You may have to put all horror movie writers on your lists too since they THINK of creative ways to kill people onscreen.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-19-09 10:55 AM
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18. When Perilaus the bronze-worker brought to the tyrant Phalaris a bronze bull, with the
promise beautiful music could be produced by roasting captives alive in the hollow sculpture, Phalaris -- being eager to test the invention -- had Perilaus shut into the bull and a fire built beneath it
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Akoto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-19-09 11:00 AM
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19. Lovely. The worst part is, if he's seeking a patent ...
He probably has a working prototype designed and/or constructed, so somebody out there (guess who) will snap it right up.
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