Pro-Life Leaders Denounce Murder of Abortion Doctor George Tiller

[Towlie]

Source: Fox News

Opponents of abortion condemned the murder of abortion provider George Tiller but used a platform outside the Supreme Court Monday to blast President Obama's abortion policies and strongly question the beliefs of his high court nominee Sonia Sotomayor.

Leaders of the anti-abortion movement gathered in front of the Supreme Court Monday morning to denounce the murder of abortion doctor George Tiller, who was gunned down Sunday while attending church in Wichita, Kan.

The pro-life activists also used the platform to blast President Obama's abortion policies and strongly question the beliefs of his Supreme Court nominee, Sonia Sotomayor.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/06/01/abortion-opponents-discouraged-doctors-murder/

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They don't even have the common decency to confine themselves to addressing the murder.

[zbdent]

1. are their fingers crossed behind their backs?

cheering his actions away from the cameras and the spotlight?

[old guy]

2. Nope.

Nothing but a cheap photo op. Not buying any of it.

[dugaresa]

3. they can't wash his blood off their hands, they are the people

who have been calling men like Tiller "killers", and when one of their own kills someone, they cry foul?

Sorry, Tiller's blood is all over them. The loser who shot him was working on their behalf.

Tiller was someone whose life had purpose and who was strong and there for women and their families in times of great sorrow. The man who killed him was a mindless fool.

[NC_Nurse]

4. There are actually some good comments on there, tho. Not totally a nutjob

response section:

"Why do so many Christians forget that only God can judge us? It is not our duty to take God's judgment into our own hands. Shame on Christians for creating the monster, Scott Roeder, who killed a man supposedly in the name of God, but in reality, only to fill a hole in his own ignorant, hate-filled heart. Christians everywhere should hang their heads in shame for failing to preach love to others and thereby increasing Roeder's fervor to think he is charged with killing in the name of God. To say that he is only an errant individual does not excuse the fact that the Christian religion fully embraces and encourages violence and hatred against those who do not agree with them. Christians would rather see non-Christians dead than alive, and this is an example of a simple-minded nutjob who took that message literally. Christians should focus more on love and appreciation of others and less on hatred and punishment. Let God do his job in heaven."

Good luck getting them to hear you.....but I respect a well thought out response from a sane person.

[defendandprotect]

5. Randall Terry has also already told them to "not give an inch" and don't change rhetoric . . .

like calling Tiller a "mass murderer" -- !!!

Terry seems concerned that the same backlash against the "pro-life" murders last

time will happen again this time --

If it doesn't, there's something really wrong with the thinking of Americans!

[Rebubula]

6. There needs...

...to be backlash.

Firing up the troops to think that a simple surgical procedure is murder and then sending them out...what the heck did they think would happen.

Dear Jeebus, I am tired of this shit

[defendandprotect]

8. Obama has to put Federals onto domestic terrorists - i.e., "Pro-life" murderers . . . and militia ..

[LiberalFighter]

25. By having to protect doctors from attacks diverts protection from foreign terrorist.

Appears to me that Pro-lifers want the USA to be attacked again.

[defendandprotect]

30. Nonetheless, these doctors need to be protected from political assassination by religious nuts --

though I do get your drift --

Unfortunately, IMO, we suffered the "Reichstag fire in NYC" thanks to Bushco --

and he certainly also encouraged these religious fanatics --

[OwnedByFerrets]

7. Not all of the are...that headline is very misleading.

[laureloak]

9. It's "Anti-abortionists", not "Pro-life". Please say it right. n/t

[kimmylavin]

12. Not to nit-pick, but...

Try anti-choice.

The opposite of pro-life would be pro-death, which is hardly the case.
And the opposite of anti-abortion would be pro-abortion - again, not the case.

[laureloak]

19. Good point.

[kiranon]

32. Agree. I won't ever use "prolife" again. It will be "anti-choice" in honor

of the doctor who died and all who died or were injured before him by anti-choice extremists.

[ZeitGuy]

14. I think "anti-Choice" is more apros pos...

...since no one I know is "Pro-abortion."

Truth is, nut-bags like Randall Terry, James Dobson, et al are misogynists. They hate women, and hate the fact that American society has turned away from their Pre-Victorian, fundamentalist attitudes of men's dominion over women, their minds and their bodies.

Terry and Dobson and their sleazy ilk have been whacking away at a hornet's nest for years, likening doctors who perform abortions and those who support a woman's right to choose her own reproductive future to Nazis, murderers and monsters. All of their caveats and disclaimers and other attempts to put distance between themselves and the mindless foot-soldiers that their invective and calls-to-arms have activated are useless. Because their hate speech was directly responsible for whipping these zombies into action, they are, ipso facto, accessories to cold-blooded murder, and the blood cannot ever be washed from their hands.

[yellowcanine]

10. Faux outrage and crocodile tears. Note they keep pushing their agenda all the while "calling on

Obama not to use this tragedy for political gain".

[sutz12]

23. Right...don't use this tragedy for political gain...until we get to do it first.

:puke:

[krabigirl]

11. LOL keep pushing the agenda, losers. People will see you as you are...

the American Taliban.

[WilmywoodNCparalegal]

13. Next, Colonel Sanders decries the inhumane killing of chickens

If the shoe fits...

[get the red out]

15. The next time I bake a cake

I will promptly denounce the eating of that cake when someone takes a bite.

They built this paradigm of hate and murderous rhetoric; now they denounce the consequences?

[droidamus2]

16. I have one huge complaint

What is it with the media calling Dr. Tiller an 'abortion doctor'. That is straight out of the right wingnut talking points. The man was a gynecologist and a surgeon that happened to provide abortion services as part of his practice. I am sure he also provided many other services to his female patients. The media does him and every sane person in this country a big disservice by buying into the 'abortion doctor' label.

[Hepburn]

17. Anyone think these anti-choice, women-hating pieces of shit...

...mean one word of this bullshit about condemning violence?

Not me.

[piedmont]

18. When a movement calling itself "pro-life" actually has to state on record it's against a murder...

it should stop pretending to be "pro-life."

[AlbertCat]

20. Anti-Choice Leaders Denounce Hate-crime Murder of Dr who Performed Necessary Service

I wish they'd get the headline right.

[glinda]

21. Trying to cover their asses so that they can continue "hate campaigns".

[Justitia]

22. Oh please! These right wing fundie terrorists are dancing on his grave as we speak.

We aren't buying their bullshit "denouncements" at all.

It's all very "wink, wink, nudge, nudge, thumbs up!"

Murderous freaks.

[JonQ]

24. Seems to be a major double standard on here

when muslim leaders offer fake apologies of "we think terrorism is wrong but you guys totally brought it on yourselves because . . . " following a radical muslim killing people they don't seem to get the same degree of criticism/skepticism. And they aren't nearly as forthright or unanimous in their condemnation of terrorism as christian leaders seem to have been for this murder.

I think these leaders deserve credit for at the very least saying the right things in public. Do they mean it? I can't say, I don't pretend to read minds. But coming out against this sort of thing publicly is definitely better than remaining silent (or condoning it of course) and they should be encouraged to do so, rather than denounced for it.

Continue lambasting them for denouncing terrorism and eventually they may stop. Certainly that is worse?

[Blue_Tires]

26. snarky, loaded non-apologies are snarky, loaded non-apologies no matter who gives them

and i say they deserve NO credit because they are NOT sorry at all...hate groups are smarter this era in the skills of PR and public opinion, and the anti-choice folks know they cannot afford to alienate or drive off potential mainstream supporters like they did a decade ago...

so until Tiller is buried, they will spin things overtime, saying they don't condone violent methods, that the shooter was a nutbar lone wolf who acted alone (especially after they shred all his links to the organization) and they will of course go into their persecution complex because the evil libruls and big media have come down on them too hard (and in spite of all of OR's loaded grandstanding rhetoric, it is the pro-choice folks who will get blamed for politicizing the tragedy)... but by this time next week things will be back to normal, and they will be behind closed doors giving followers vague references about other communities where "a message could be sent"

[JonQ]

27. I'd hesitate to label all churches

as "hate groups".


Also if mainstream christians supported these acts then why would their leaders be apologizing? If they don't (I'm pretty sure they don't), then how are they at risk of "alienating or driving off" supporters?

No doubt some people are celebrating. But it's painting with a pretty broad brush (and entirely unfair one at that) to label all Christians or even a majority as extremists who are pleased with this act of terrorism. I've seen no evidence to back up such an assertion and quite a bit to the contrary.

[Blue_Tires]

28. i'm referring to the specific extreme activist groups

not the entire christian religion as a whole....after all the victim was christian (and killed in a church, no less).... but there are plenty of churches (westboro, etc.) who play an active role in the 'bust a cap for christ' game...

[JonQ]

29. But the thread isn't about a handful of hate groups

and their minuscule number of extremists. It's about a general meeting of church leaders who are opposed to abortion (which is not synonymous with wanting to kill doctors or burn down clinics), representing (if recent polls are to be believed) the majority of the country that is opposed to abortion. Westboro is essentially one extended family, and I've yet to meet any christian that supports their actions, hardly a representative sample.

Yes there are churches that support this. And there are mosques that support terrorism. I don't feel it's any more fair to label all muslims terrorists over their extremists than it is to label all christians the same over theirs.

The majority oppose this, and in the absence of counter evidence I'm going to take their condemnations and condolences at face value.

[riverdeep]

31. Here, I'll fix it for you:

"Pro-Life Leaders Denounce Murder of Abortion Doctor George Tiller (wink wink)"

[No Elephants]

33. Publicly, they seem to descry murder as a method. But, in code, the marching orders are

given. And, in private, the murderer is hailed as a hero.

Please do not read this as saying "all Christians." I am talking about the likes of Falwell.

[sorrowspath]

34. The KKK is back nad isn ow targeting women's reproductive rights.

under the leadership of Bill O'Reilly and Randall Terry and their KKK means Kill Kristians.Kill!!