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baby_bear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 11:21 PM
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(U.K.) Army chiefs feared Iraq war illegal just days before start
Edited on Sat Feb-28-04 11:34 PM by sierra_moon
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/iraq/story/0,12239,1158859,00.html

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Britain's Army chiefs refused to go to war in Iraq amid fears over its legality just days before the British and American bombing campaign was launched, The Observer can today reveal.
The explosive new details about military doubts over the legality of the invasion are detailed in unpublished legal documents in the case of Katharine Gun, the intelligence officer dramatically freed last week after Lord Goldsmith, the Attorney-General, dropped charges against her of breaking the Official Secrets Act.

The disclosure came as it also emerged that Goldsmith was forced hastily to redraft his legal advice to Tony Blair to give an 'unequivocal' assurance to the armed forces that the conflict would not be illegal.
...
Downing Street last night refused to comment on the allegations. Blair's spokesman also refused to say whether the White House had been consulted over the dropping of the Gun case, despite growing conviction at Westminster that it would have been inconceivable for the Foreign Office not to have taken its closest ally's views into consideration.


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much more...http://observer.guardian.co.uk/iraq/story/0,12239,1158859,00.html

These stories about British and U.S. spying on the U.N. have greater and greater traction in Britain. How about here?

on edit, here's another article. I did a Google, and I just do not see this being reported in U.S. newspapers, at least not as a U.S. issue. There are a couple papers reporting it as a British issue only. Maybe someone else here has seen something more significant.

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/iraq/story/0,12956,1158906,00.html
I had no choice, says GCHQ whistleblower

Martin Bright
Sunday February 29, 2004
The Observer

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The GCHQ whistleblower who walked free from court last week after the Government dropped secrecy charges against her says Tony Blair lost all moral credibility when he went to war in Iraq without the backing of the United Nations.

Speaking in her first major interview since the collapse of the trial, Katharine Gun told The Observer she now believes that President Bush and Blair always intended to go to war.

The 29-year-old Mandarin-language expert, speaking at a secret location, said the email she leaked last February showed that Britain and the United States were prepared to go to any lengths, including bribery and blackmail, to get the United Nations Security Council to authorise war with Iraq at the beginning of last year.
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much more....why aren't these headlines in the U.S.????



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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 11:27 PM
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1. They knew long before that. Bush tried for 2 years to
get the international court to exempt Americans from having their day in court outside the US for escapes like this.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 11:52 PM
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2. What a disgrace!
Our media is too busy taking notes from the White House talking points.

Do you think this will make the Sunday AM talk shows? No, they'll be too busy talking about gay marriage.
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American Renaissance Donating Member (330 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 11:57 PM
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3. Aufträge sind Aufträge
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huckleberry Donating Member (729 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 01:00 AM
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4. 'Beginning of the end for Blair' (another UK article)
The events of the past week will go down in history as the beginning of the end of Prime Minister Tony Blair, anti-war campaigners have been told.

Expelled ex-Labour MP George Galloway told an audience of several hundred that the dropping of the case against former intelligence officer turned whistle-blower Katharine Gun, coupled with Clare Short's allegation that British agents bugged United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan, would doom Mr Blair's premiership.

"The week will be looked back on, the Katharine Gun verdict and the Clare Short interview, as the week in which the beginning of the end of Tony Blair began," Mr Galloway said to rapturous applause.

more at
http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=116097&command=displayContent&sourceNode=116095&contentPK=9029924

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BlueCollar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 01:36 AM
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5. thank God
for the British press and the British people...
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 02:03 AM
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6. here are the US related links that I have found
http://www.boston.com/dailynews/059/world/Greenpeace_demands_access_to_g:.shtml

Greenpeace demands access to government's legal advice on Iraq war

excerpt:

The Greenpeace demands come after the collapse of a criminal trial against a British intelligence agency worker on Wednesday. Katharine Gun admitted she leaked a January 2003 document that disclosed an American request for British help in monitoring phones and e-mail traffic of U.N. Security Council members as the two countries sought council backing for war.

http://www.nola.com/iraq/index.ssf?/newsflash/get_story.ssf?/cgi-free/getstory_ssf.cgi?a0499_BC_Britain-Iraq&&news&emergency

(same story as above)

http://www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/8065640.htm

Britain Is Pressured on Iraq Legal Briefs

(AP) LONDON - The government faced growing pressure Saturday to reveal legal briefs from its senior lawyer about the justification for war in Iraq.

Greenpeace, the environmental group, said it had demanded access to the advice so that it could defend 14 of its activists, who face charges as a result of a February 2003 anti-war protest.

Prime Minister Tony Blair's office has rebuffed previous calls for private advice to be released and a spokesman restated that position Saturday.

"The attorney-general's advice remains confidential because of the long-standing convention that advice to governments in office is not disclosed," the spokesman said on customary condition of anonymity.

The Greenpeace demands come after the collapse of a criminal trial against a British intelligence agency worker on Wednesday. Katharine Gun admitted she leaked a January 2003 document that disclosed an American request for British help in monitoring phones and e-mail traffic of U.N. Security Council members as the two countries sought council backing for war.

...more...

http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/news/8065640.htm

http://www.news-journal.com/news/content/news/ap_story.html/Intl/AP.V7917.AP-Britain-Iraq.html

http://www.rockymounttelegram.com/news/content/news/ap_story.html/Intl/AP.V7917.AP-Britain-Iraq.html

http://pennlive.com/newsflash/lateststories/index.ssf?/base/international-5/1077978240299610.xml

http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/ap/ap_story.html/Intl/AP.V7976.AP-Britain-Iraq.html

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/special_packages/iraq/8065640.htm

http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/duluthsuperior/news/8065640.htm

http://www.timesleader.com/mld/timesleader/news/8065640.htm

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/world/8065640.htm

http://www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily/news/8065640.htm

http://www.belleville.com/mld/newsdemocrat/8065640.htm

http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/mld/ledgerenquirer/news/8065640.htm

http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/news/nation/8065640.htm

http://www.aberdeennews.com/mld/aberdeennews/news/8065640.htm

http://www.sanluisobispo.com/mld/sanluisobispo/news/local/8065640.htm

(same AP story as above)

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