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laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 04:01 PM
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AIG lawyer: Ex-top exec plundered retirement plan
Source: AP

AIG lawyer: Ex-top exec plundered retirement plan
By MADLEN READ, AP Business Writer – 6 mins ago


NEW YORK – The former top executive of American International Group Inc. plundered an AIG retirement program of billions of dollars because he was angry at being forced out of the company, a lawyer for AIG told jurors Monday at the start of a civil trial.

Attorney Theodore Wells told the jury in Manhattan that former AIG Chief Executive Officer Maurice "Hank" Greenberg improperly took $4.3 billion in stock from the company in 2005, after he was ousted by the company amid investigations of accounting irregularities.

"Hank Greenberg was mad. He was angry," Wells said in U.S. District Court of the emotional state of the man who, over a 35-year-career, built AIG from a small company into the world's largest insurance provider. He said the saga is a story of "anger, betrayal and cover-up."

Wells said that Greenberg, within weeks of being forced out in mid-2005, gave the go-ahead for tens of millions of shares to be sold from a trust fund. The fund was set up to provide incentive bonuses to a select group of AIG management and highly compensated employees that they would receive upon their retirement.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090615/ap_on_bi_ge/us_aig_trial
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 04:22 PM
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1. Prison
Period. What a fucking scumbag.
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mudplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 04:28 PM
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3. The fund was set up to provide incentive bonuses to a select group of AIG management and highly comp
"The fund was set up to provide incentive bonuses to a select group of AIG management and highly compensated employees that they would receive upon their retirement."

Couldn't of happened to a nicer bunch of guys.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 05:18 PM
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8. Doesn't make it ok
Not as bad as I first though though. That'll learn me not to skim too quickly.
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Lenomsky Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 06:20 PM
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13. Oh I agree
Just found it funny :)
182 Billion in aid too .. madness!!
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 06:22 PM
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14. They still got their bonuses but we paid for them instead.
:shrug:
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 12:19 AM
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32. And they fired him haha. Can you imagine pillaging your CEO's retirement
after he/she fired you.

Not saying it's right... cause it's not. But it's damn funny :rofl:

Taste of their own forkin medicine says I :applause:
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 07:04 AM
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35. And YET this scumbag is on MSNBC 24/7
They (the talking heads) cower and fawn over this criminal hoodlum and hooligan with the white collar.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:56 PM
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38. Except Obama is really soft on abuses of power He'll thoroughly condemn it.......
before totally ignoring it. It's more important to move forward. That brings us closer to that one day we'll reach that fairytale land where we no longer need honor, integrity and laws. Excuse me I need to go sing Kumbayah, hug a tree, and :puke:
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 03:03 PM
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42. when I have a tantrum, I eat chocolate. What a douchebag. Jail. Now.
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 04:28 PM
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2. incentive bonuses to a select group of AIG management and highly compensated employees?
What? Executives won't get bonuses at retirement? Yawn....
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 10:03 PM
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29. That sums it up. A rich guy stole from other rich guys. nt
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 04:04 PM
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43. And then American taxpayers made up the difference.nt
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mr1956 Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 04:39 PM
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4. I have no sympathy for the so-called "victims"
Edited on Mon Jun-15-09 04:42 PM by mr1956
If Mr. Greenberg loses and must return the money, it should go directly into the US Treasury. These guys already got there bonuses from the taxpayer bailout. Not that the judge or jury will ever hear that though.
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 04:41 PM
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5. How did he do that after being forced out?
Attorney Theodore Wells told the jury in Manhattan that former AIG Chief Executive Officer Maurice "Hank" Greenberg improperly took $4.3 billion in stock from the company in 2005, after he was ousted by the company amid investigations of accounting irregularities.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 04:45 PM
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6. What about all the "Un-Funded" retirement plans
GM
Westinghouse
GE
United Airlines

It has been a "Free For All" for corp execs to raid the funds of hard working Blue Collar American workers. Now because a select group a cushie insider traders has their fund raided they want the US Government to sit up and take action.

Make it a crime to divert, sell off, or raid ALL retirement funds
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 01:10 AM
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33. There's a thought. But how would we get our hard working
Congress critters out from their lunches with lobbyists, travel junkets paid for by lobbyists, and other assorted luxury activities, in order to come in and put together a bill that protects the working class stiffs?
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 05:17 PM
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7. Delete
Edited on Mon Jun-15-09 05:19 PM by Beetwasher
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 05:24 PM
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9. Gee, that really makes me mad


Photo: Schmier Grafx.de (Germany)

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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 05:42 PM
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10. this is who our government has turned the reins of power over to.
now you can wish that is was different what with the election of a dem and all that.

but this is really it in a nut shell.

you are not represented by those you walk into a booth and vote for -- you ruled by characters like this.

it is now incumbent on those in power to continuously convince you that it's the ONLY way things can be.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 05:43 PM
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11. "HE was ANGRY.." ??!!! STFU!
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Lenomsky Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 06:02 PM
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12. Kick it and mend
"gave the go-ahead for tens of millions of shares to be sold from a trust fund. The fund was set up to provide incentive bonuses to a select group of AIG management and highly compensated employees"

Play on .. Excellent selection :)
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 06:44 PM
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15. Oh, oh, oh. I am surprised. I am so surprised.
I thought all those people were honest and nice.

Oh, oh, oh.

I am surprised.

ironically,
Bright
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 07:07 PM
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16. Now, I AM angry!
So, what do I get?

Oh, and WE THE PEOPLE ARE angry! :mad:

So, what do WE get?
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pjt7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 07:17 PM
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17. Riping off his own companies retirment fund, Starting the derivative
market which wrecked America.. what else did this traitor do to us??????????????
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pjt7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 07:19 PM
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19. Can a guy as rich as Grenneberg & as well known
ever go to jail in America $$??$$?
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Jeep789 Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 07:18 PM
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18. Facts are murky
It is unclear what the funds were for or who owned them.
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Sancho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 07:22 PM
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20. torture!
:grr: :nuke: :grr: :nuke: :grr: :nuke:

I just moved my AIG stuff...lost about a third. Damn crooks.
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pjt7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 07:25 PM
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21. What do you guy's think about this article
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 07:26 PM
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22. How does this company that deals in $$$ not have
checks and balances to prevent this sort of thing from happening.

These are the exact reasons why AIG should have been allowed to fail, they along with the other companies that have been bailed out. They had bad business policies which led to their failure, small companies don't have that luxury to get bailed out.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 08:12 PM
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23. It is the sheer arrogance of these people that bring the scorn upon them...
they shold be paraded through the streets...after their funds have been confiscated and used to buy healthcare for the poor...then...tar and feathers to be handed out to the masses. Rails are pretty cheap too...;)
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 08:17 PM
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24. Every Rethug that ever spoke with Greenberg shoulg go to jail with him
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 08:50 PM
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25. AIG wants to get paid back in cash, not in the AIG shares he sold
He sold them for $4.3B, now they're probably worth $100M. So AIG is suing him not to get the shares back for what they're worth today, but to get back what they were worth in 1985. That's to put a whole lot more money in the pile for exec bonuses. These bastards plundered my retirement fund. Let them get their shares back, but at current prices so that their bonuses will be based on their performance.

Until then, cry me a river.

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Flatulo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 08:53 PM
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26. And our prisons are filled with poor bastards who had a few oz of weed...
What a fucked-up bunch we have become.

Anyone want to bet this fucker gets away with this?
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 07:05 AM
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36. Well, he's living LARGE right now
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 09:22 PM
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27. Send the son of a bitch to Levinworth.
Edited on Mon Jun-15-09 09:24 PM by Faryn Balyncd


He's already stolen the good name of a baseball legend. Now this.



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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 09:32 PM
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28. How many millions of dollars does one human need? n/t
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 10:45 AM
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37. That's an easy one.
One million more than he/she has.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 04:09 PM
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44. Humans don't even need a million. Or a half or even a quarter million.
These guys need to have more millions than anybody else.
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LarryNM Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 10:13 PM
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30. Sharks
The sharks devouring each other in an unregulated free market cesspool. Hope some get the message. No offense intended for the sea creatures of the same name.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-15-09 11:32 PM
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31. we bailout AIG, AIG donates to congress, We get NOTHING
but f'd up
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 06:43 AM
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34. "plundered" "improperly" BUT was it illegal?
Otherwise STFU and steal more money from the taxpayers for your overpaid bonusususus
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 02:41 PM
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39. Sorry but I don't care about rich assholes that waste money on things
of material wealth. Send anyone who breaks the law to jail, that is what happens to us ordinary folks.
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 02:48 PM
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40. oh my...
Edited on Tue Jun-16-09 02:51 PM by laylah
how conveeeeeeeeeniet:sarcasm:

edited to add that would be "conveeeeeeeeeeeeeenient"
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 02:57 PM
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41. Maybe we should set a deserted island and send a significant portion of our psychotic business class
over there?

Then they can live in their economic Valhalla, an empire heralded by a lord of the flies in a dog eat dog society... these assholes love so much. They can steal from each other, they can backstab at will, abuse, cheat... in fact, this island doesn't even have to be a prison system. Advertise all that, and these assholes will flock willingly, just say a small white lie, like I dunno... the island is full of wealthy, hardworking natives, waiting for some overlords to take over them to live the rest of their lives in blissful abuse.

We can make a mint, I tell you!
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