Governor Mark Sanford (R-SC) admits affair was reason for disappearance

[Alexander]

Source: South Carolina Education Television

Mark Sanford just admitted his trip to Argentina was because of an extramarital affair.

No link yet.

[Joanne98]

1. HAHAHAHA!

[subcomhd]

64. very, VERY well put!!!!!

[Hissyspit]

112. Please vote in the poll:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5914854&mesg_id=5914854

[PNutt]

141. He was..........

"Hiking on a latino tail"

[curiousdemo]

245. This too-bit joker flew to South America to see this woman!

Boy, that's must been some good stuff....I'm getting me a flight out to Buenos Aires, Argentina first thing tomorrow!!!!, Reminds me of Dudley Moore totally makes a fool of himself over Bo Derek in the movie "10"

[caseymoz]

251. He must be really stuck on her. nt

[Plucketeer]

144. I'll see your HaHa's and raise you one!

:rofl:

[stlsaxman]

255. Hey Joanne98- now i'm sorry i didn't wait to post this puppy- check it out!

Congressman Makes Preemptive Apology For Extramarital Affair

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNX518hfghU&feature=channel_page

Sanford should have watched THIS before his presser!

[senseandsensibility]

2. Will resign as head of governor's association

eom

[rocktivity]

65. He needs to resign as governor, period--he was completely derilict in his duty.

If he'd bothered to leave someone else in charge, I could at least consider forgiving him.

At least when John Edwards visited his lover in the middle of his presidential campaign, he didn't leave a constituency hanging in the balance.

:headbang:
rocktivity

[thereismore]

84. SC can impeach. nt

[sofa king]

148. Leaving the NGA is a pretty big deal.

Next to PhRMA and AIPAC, the NGA is probably the most effective lobbying organization in Washington. It is particularly important to the Republicans right now, as they're only a few key players away from losing total control of the federal government.

The NGA, acting as an informal sort of "fourth branch" and representing a the consensus of the nation's state leaders, has massive influence which is rarely seen in the press or the public. Very little major legislation is considered in Congress (especially the Senate) without also considering the input of the NGA.

So, taking this tool out of that shed leaves it weakened and exposed to scrutiny, two things the Republicans cannot afford to have happen to them right now.

I hope independent researchers poke around the NGA and its hijinks over the past several years. I'm pretty sure they're as corrupted as everything else the GOP controlled in 2001-2008.

[howmad1]

150. And that schmuck Elliot Spitzer resigned......

....because he paid for some poontang. Go figure.

[Titonwan]

152. Don't cry for me, Argentina!

The story of romance by a rethug that didn't involve an airport bathroom stall. So they say.

[katmondoo]

3. another Repub Family Man bits the dust

[caseymoz]

249. I feel sorry for the guy.

Repubs and conservatives are regretting ever having made family values part of their platform. They're dropping like flies.

I do get tired of hearing them say that they made a mistake. No, they did exactly what they wanted to do, until they were "exposed." It is one way that Christianity distorts things. Sin is not a mistake, and reforming and repenting is not something that you do after you get caught. We need a new word for that. I'd like to hear just one of them say: "I'm very sorry I got caught, and of course I won't do it again now that everybody's on to me."

I do miss the days when personal life wasn't a public matter, though.

[xultar]

4. What's her name?

[ClusterFreak]

9. delete...it's "her". n/t

[xultar]

120. What?

[ClusterFreak]

127. Just responding that it was a "her" and not a "him"...

...who Sanford had an affair with.

[smb]

149. Oh, Well...

...after Foley and Craig that was hardly a foregone conclusion. :rofl:

[xultar]

194. Please look @ my post, and it hasn't been edited. It never said him. No red line indicating edits.

is on the post. I think you had that "him" on your mind...tee hee hee.

See, like I edited this post...the red line indicating the date and time of the edit.

[ClusterFreak]

227. What happened actually was that I originally posted that...

...I wondered if it were a 'her' or a 'him'....then with the TV on in the background I then heard Sanford say 'her' and so I immediately went back to edit my post....to say "it's her". So it's all just an innocent misunderstanding.:)

[Love Bug]

5. I'm shocked I tell you, shocked!

Well, not really. Man or woman?

[JayMusgrove]

10. It's a woman, so there's

no need for shock. This happens every day of the week with Republicans.

[hamsterjill]

67. Exactly!

And they only "confess" because they've been caught!

[MissDeeds]

146. Right

Now we will see the repubs spinning this as an act of true character that he stood up and confessed what he's done. What a man! He owned up to it! Not that the lying pile of dog doo cheated on his wife, children, and state for an extramarital affair. No, he's a stellar human being because he confessed when caught with his pants down. Give me a freakin' break.

[goclark]

105. "She" is a "Married" woman

Family Values at their best.

[cosmicone]

202. where did you hear that? Link please n/t

[goclark]

209. MSNBC or CNN had a trailer

"married woman with two children"

[glinda]

108. Somehow it didn't seem like he was going to say that

[caseymoz]

250. But we don't know that yet. That's could be the next shoe to drop.

She might even be transgendered. Who knows?

[JayMusgrove]

6. Here comes the tears!

[curiousdemo]

248. You talking about these tears......

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

[lindisfarne]

7. The GOP is so predictable. He did this to his 4 kids, and his wife. What a moral example. n/t

[AlbertCat]

27. He did this to his 4 kids, and his wife.

...on Father's Day!

[smb]

151. GOP Family Values In Action, Ladies & Gentlemen n/t

[caseymoz]

254. The GOP is regretting so much that 'family values' platform. nt

[ckimmy57]

179. I can hear it now

Sorry I missed Father's Day with my loving children but but but, you just don't understand. I HAD to go boink my girlfriend. I've been under so much stress "governing" the state of South Carolina, tooting all my high morals and family values that I just NEEDED this release. It's them damn dirty democrats, they MADE me do it. IT'S BILL CLINTON'S FAULT.

[cosmicone]

31. and on fathers' day !!! n/t

[goclark]

160. He is a jerk ~ Didn't cry when he talked about his wife or his kids

Tears started to flow we he acknowledged his friend that has been supportive of all of his campaigns.

He said something about this friend being in the audience today.
He said something like,"my friend slept on our basement and worked for our campaign.

Jerk ~ and then his lover is MARRIED with two children.

:puke:

And then he talked about God's law etc. :puke:

[Occulus]

196. What I have always wondered about crap like this

is why someone in the audience, behind the camera, never stands up and shouts "You did it on FATHER'S DAY, you piece of crap! How in the HELL can you, of all people, talk about morals and God's law?!??!"

Why don't people interrupt crap speeches like this? Why don't people put these assholes in their place while they're trying to make their false apologies on camera?

Why don't ACTUAL moral, upstanding people show some intestinal fortitude and shut these false apologies down as they happen?

[LuckyLib]

265. Amen! I'm always waiting for someone to shout it out. And it never happens. Folks are too damned

chicken/polite.

[MineralMan]

8. Just the usual sordid sexual affair by a man who professes

religious beliefs. Feh!

And the GOOPers lose another one to his dick.

[caseymoz]

246. And gays can't marry, we're told, because it harms the sanctity of marriage!

I'm waiting for him to try to turn it around by saying the very idea that gays could marry corrupted his thinking.

:rofl:

This has my vote for the Gary Hart Memorial Award for the very worst handled affair by a politician.

:woohoo:

[GoddessOfGuinness]

11. Hmmm...I wonder if he said anything about Edwards

when things came out in the open.

Ironic that a married man with young children would be out screwing around on Father's Day.

[underpants]

12. GD thread on it

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5913650

[JayMusgrove]

13. He's still taking questions on CNN and MSNBC

holding back the tears.

[livetohike]

14. Aww, you can't just make this stuff up! Reagan must be

spinning in his grave to see what has become of his moral majority.

[cosmicone]

Reagan was not very moral either. He's probably giving a thumbs up. n/t

[livetohike]

73. That's true....just another typical Republican hypocrite n/t

[asksam]

271. Another????

How about the fact that every Repug is a lying, cheating hypocrite.

[Hepburn]

99. I would never put "Reagan" and "moral" in the same sentence unless...

...the adverb "not" was included.

JMHO...:hi:

[No Elephants]

100. The Moral Majority was Falwell's. It probably took its name from Nixon's "Silent Majority,"

of 1969, as distinguished from the civil rights and anti-war demonstrators of the years prior to and during Nixon's adminstration. Those were considered "anti-establishment," so I guess the Silent Majority was the establishment--although these things are not always that logical.

The Moral Majority (kind of) morphed into the Christian Coalition.

[livetohike]

257. But it (moral majority) was created during Reagan's era

and although he was far from being a church going fundamentalist, I'm sure he supported the movement.

[jberryhill]

242. ....along with Jane Wyman /nt

[last_texas_dem]

15. Watching him on MSNBC now

Tuned in in the middle of it, and I figured some sort of "confession" was coming when he started talking about being a lifelong Christian and apologizing to his Christian brethren for a mistake. Another Grand Ol' Hypocrisy Party luminary...

[No Elephants]

110. Mistake, adultery, whatever. Why parse words?

[smb]

153. Mistake??

WTF does he mean "mistake"? Did he open his eyes and just happen to notice that the woman he was sticking his schlong into wasn't his wife?

Geez....

[No Elephants]

169. Appalachia, Argentina-both long names that start and end with "A." Anyone could have mixed them up.

[GeorgeGist]

240. Christian are sinners; it says so in the Bible.

Why is he apologizing to his Christian brethern?

[JayMusgrove]

16. Press Link

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/politics/19838135/detail.html?treets=bos&tml=bos_natlbreak&ts=T&tmi=bos_natlbreak_1_01370106242009

[nc4bo]

17. He's admitting? Extortion? So who's the lucky lady (or gentleman)

Is there a baby involved?!

OMGawd fooking hypocrites airing the dirty laundry :rofl:

Who's next in line to be Governor?

[nc4bo]

18. Don't cry for me Argentina...

Sorry just caught the end of the presser.

[JayMusgrove]

20. Best laugh for me today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks! n/t

[goclark]

22. Didn't He say "She"

:shrug:

[nc4bo]

29. I don't know, I caught the last 30 secs of his presser.

But reading around DU seems it is a "she".

[AlbertCat]

32. OMGawd fooking hypocrites airing the dirty laundry

I know! It's like a Soap on Univision!


Can we get our money back from the Clinton crap now? What did they spend of our tax dollars on that? 75 million?

[nc4bo]

70. It's surreal I tell ya. At this point, I don't know how even the 28%'ers can stand it. nt

[lindisfarne]

19. How nice he gave his wife and kids some time to digest the news in private. n/t

[No Elephants]

132. +1

[peaches2003]

176. He said his wife has known for 5 months

and they've been trying to "work it out". Sure he has. I guess he went to Argentina to screw her one last time? What a POS.

[jazzjunkysue]

232. I knew it was an affair when the little wife said, "I have no idea where he is."

That was total passive aggression.

She knew it, or she would have been asking for help. She knew he was fine.

I really don't know why crazies like this don't just resign ahead of time. Something in them wants the notoriety that comes from a public scandal.

[xxqqqzme]

256. Agree, that planted the first seeds of

suspicion in my mind.

[glinda]

264. I knew also.

[flamingyouth]

21. Astonishing!

I mean, if my husband took off for four days without telling me where he was going, I just wouldn't think twice. :bonkers:

[Hepburn]

Yep, especially on Father's Day when we had small children.

Talk about an asshole...one thing to fuck around on the spouse ~~ but to screw over the kiddos on Father's Day? Low, really low.

[No Elephants]

170. You wouldn't think twice if you had known for months that he was having an affair. Then,

everything would just fall into place for ya.

[JayMusgrove]

23. Somebody turn on Fox News and see what THEY

will say about it.

CNN women seem to be apologizing for him being human.

oh and I just turned to Faux

"The governor is such a forthright guy!!"

"The Republicans will step (of SC) up to the occassion"

"We (SC Repubs)will just have to see if we can continue to support him!

"What a great team we have in SC"

Some SC Repub on the phone with Faux.

[smb]

156. Faux Pulls Their Usual Tricks....

[mnhtnbb]

172. That is so damn funny. A Dem governor in SC?!?

:rofl:

[smb]

177. Indeed...

What kind of station would try such a transparent trick? They'd have to assume that their viewers are morons....

Er, never mind....

[No Elephants]

191. In the pic in Reply 156, he looks like Pat Paulsen, from the Smothers Brothers Show.

[rcrush]

24. HMMM if he just came out and admitted it I wonder if he was doing something much worse

I heard thats where the nazis escaped to after WW2. Maybe he was hanging out with Hitler.

[Ikonoklast]

28. Hitler despised men that cheated on their spouses.

He hade a strange puritanical streak about certain things.

[dugaresa]

189. but didn't old Adolph have the hots for his own neice?

weird moral values that psycho had

[Vidar]

25. "Aaaah have sinned" -Jimmy Swaggart. Works every time.

[chill_wind]

62. He sure didn't put a lot of thought into not getting caught.

Bizarre.

[jazzjunkysue]

235. Only with alot of mucus and slobber.

Somebody start chopping onions!

[Blue_Tires]

26. eww...i thought the Argie women were supposed to be high-class and of discerning tastes?

which one of them would find SANFORD sexy?? (unless of course there are some women who find fascism sexy...)

[Maeve]

30. Oh...what...a...shock....that wasn't. eom

[JohnWxy]

33. Once-missing S.C. governor admits to affair - link to article

Source: The Hill.com

South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford (R) on Wednesday became the second Republican in as many weeks to admit an extramarital affair in a tearful press conference held just hours after returning from an unannounced vacation in Argentina.

"I have been unfaithful to my wife. I have developed a relationship with someone who started as a dear, dear friend from Argentina. It began innocently, as I suspect most of these things do," Sanford said in a sometimes rambling opening statement.


Read more: http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/once-missing-s.c.-governor-admits-to-affair-2009-06-24.html

[demo dutch]

34. In a nutshell.. crying in Argentina on father's day with his Argentinian girlfriend he met 8 yrs ago

[lindisfarne]

35. Dupe. Just a few posts down. n/t

[trapper914]

36. Ending the Afffair?

If he was truly going down there to end the affair, why did it take 5 days?

[glinda]

113. Uhhhh....duh!!!!!!!!!! He had to admit it because he was outed. He is no "hero".

[No Elephants]

125. Because it's a long hike from SC to Argentina, duh!!

[sabra]

37. South Carolina Gov. Sanford Says He's Been Unfaithful to His Wife

Source: Fox News

BREAKING NEWS> South Carolina Gov. Sanford Says He's Been Unfaithful to His Wife



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/

---

http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2009/06/live-blog-gov-sanford-talks-to-the-media.html

<snip>

Update at 2:29 p.m. ET: "I've let down a lot of people," he says. He also adds an apology for "people of faith across South Carolina."

Update at 2: 30 p.m. ET: The bottom line is "I have been unfaithful to my wife."

"I have developed a relationship with a dear, dear friend from Argentina. It began very innocently in just a casual e-mail back and forth."

He says it "recently developed into something much more than that."

Update at 2:32 p.m. ET: Sanford says he is resigning as chairman of the Republican Governors Association.

Update at 2:34 p.m. ET: Sanford says his wife has been aware of the affair and that he and his wife have been trying to work through it for about five months.

Update at 2:37 p.m. ET: Sanford says the affair began on a "very casual basis." He said the woman who lives in Argentina "developed a remarkable friendship over eight years" and about a year ago it "sparked into something more than that." He says he has seen her about three times since then, but that the affair was "discovered" about five months ago.

Update at 2:39 p.m. ET: He says he struggled with what to do about the relationship, "Oddly enough I've spent the past five days crying in Argentina."

[lindisfarne]

38. Ooops this is a dupe. The GOP is so predictable. n/t

[Zynx]

39. Congrats to everyone on DU. You pretty much all called this one.

[Tempest]

40. There's only one thing that would make this better

If the "she" he developed a relationship with via email turned out to be a "he".

[JayMusgrove]

41. Too much to ask for. But what a wonderful thing that would be.

[notesdev]

49. I was wondering about that

given the history, I'm a bit surprised that it was a woman (if it actually is)

[WinkyDink]

223. I'm thinking it will, no matter what is stated currently.

[goclark]

42. ~ Don't cry for me Argentina~

[loyalkydem]

131. Am I the only one

who is enjoying watching another high profile Republican going down?

[JayMusgrove]

173. Pretty soon we will be left with only Palin and Romney. n/t

[K8-EEE]

214. Gov. Sanford macaca'd on himself!

What an idiot!! Why the hell didn't he just TAKE THE WEEK OFF -- put the Lt. Gov in charge and call it vacation?

DOES ANYBODY HAVE A JOB YOU CAN JUST WALK AWAY FOR FOR THE WEEK? They'd fire him at Pizza Hut for that, let alone being gov and all....

[jazzjunkysue]

233. Hell no.

:popcorn:

[Dappleganger]

43. Too bad he didn't apologize for LYING

to the state and his staff.

[tomm2thumbs]

44. the Family Values Coalition being unmasked one by one

how fun- hypocrisy is such a delicious topping but it's the fudge underneath that makes it a great dessert

[nc4bo]

45. And that's Republican Family Values for ya! nt

[DuaneBidoux]

46. Another holier than thou Repuke takes a header into an empty swimming pool

UnFuckingBelievable.

The Republicans are literally disintegrating.

[Politicalboi]

47. Yup all Obama's fault LOL!

He made him do it. LOL!

[Epiphany4z]

48. wow great way to work through it

sneaking off hopping a plane to see his mistress....and ditching his kids on fathers day ....ahhh love them GOP family values....

[sledgehammer]

Wow! What a surprise....NOT!

Pack of cards these repugs are, I tell ya!

[AlbertCat]

51. Is that Fox News or The Onion?

It's hard to tell sometimes.

No doubt it's Bill Clinton's and John Edwards' fault.

Maybe he just wants the other GOPers to applaud him like they do with all their hedonists.

[hadrons]

52. "I have developed a relationship with a dear, dear friend from Argentina ... a hot, hot friend" ....

I figured he didn't travel there to DO something exotic, but to 'TO DO' SOMEONE exotic ... but I guess if she isn't going on the SC its OK with "the base"

[JenniferJuniper]

53. Yup. Another weepy, unfaithful, mentally unstable "family guy"

Meets all the criteria. Sounds like he'd make a fantastic Republican presidential candidate.

[Doctor_J]

54. Ellen Ratnor on with Hartmann - saying wife knew about it

about the trip and about the affair.

This is so great, and will get better.

[LaydeeBug]

55. Does this guy have any record on the clinton affair? nt

[Bossy Monkey]

90. In Congress, he was mostly a Ron Paul follower, so probably not

He only went mainstream Republican to run for governor (and all those old Liberty Committee (Ron Paul's old caucus) webpages went straight down the memory hole).

[Mudoria]

56. I have a lot of sympathy for his wife and young children...

I have nothing but contempt for him. Resign now!

[jazzjunkysue]

237. Nope. Sorry. She's an enabler. She should have left a long time ago.

And she should have made him resign.

[marshall]

269. Maybe she has political aspirations herself

Many couples in the political areana stay together for convenience in order to pursue their goals outside of the marriage.

[madmax]

57. Another holier than thou - Family Values - HYPOCRITE!! n/t

[Fly by night]

58. He also admits his shit stinks.

Isn't that just like Rethugligans --

sanctimonious moralists on the outside,

putrid soul-less pustules on the inside.

[TheCoxwain]

59. CENK saw this coming .. he said Sanford was upto no good ...

[AlbertCat]

80. My cat saw it coming!

I tell ya...it will be a Palin/Limbaugh GOP ticket in 2012 because they will be the only 2 GOPers left on the planet.

[caseymoz]

252. It could have been embezzlement, or suicide . . . nt

[KansDem]

61. Man! What's happening to the "Party of Family Values" and "Party of Personal Responsibility?"

Saint Ronnie must be spinning in his grave!


Screw all you neo-con GOP wannabees!

[wizstars]

154. Don't EVER call that filthy worthless POS "Saint"...

not even with a sarcasm smilie. He is scum--him and the horse he rode in on, and all his buds.

(you owe me a new keyboard, friend--you made me ralph all over mine.)

[applejuice]

210. Exactly. Thank you.

Ronald Reagan was a horrible President who (among other things) screwed over the working people of The US in favor of big businesses.

[No Elephants]

165. Why? What negative thing did Ronnie ever take responsiblity for?

[8 track mind]

69. damn... the "wide stance" bites again......

i wonder if it was a mail order bride from Argentina???

[nc4bo]

76. Naw, she's married with 2 kids. Nice, eh? nt

[walkaway]

74. I don't believe that's all. There has to be something else. n/t

[sonias]

50. I knew it

Just as 20 million or so others suspected as well.

:popcorn:

Sonia

[edbermac]

60. No shit! Tell us something we don't already know.

Has his wife announced that she stands by him and that their marriage is stronger than ever yet?

[JayMusgrove]

63. What kind of guy does this? Are all men in the Carolinas

cheaters on their wives and children?

Spitzer had to resign when he admitted to it.

What is WITH these guys with big ego's?

[AlbertCat]

88. Clinton's not from the Carolinas

Or Vitter. Or Craig.

And NC is not SC....by a long shot! (Edwards is originally from SC BTW)


75% of all married men cheat on their wives. This is true all over the world.

The only reason this is news is because of the Family Values and Personal Responsibility GOP lies.

[butterfly77]

116. Next up....

Lindsay Graham...

[rolfboy]

145. Nah, Lindsey's firmly in the closet. eom.

[butterfly77]

161. Isn't it time to bring him out?

[fascisthunter]

272. not sure about that... I'd say he was in the "barn"

you know... farm animals. Not sure a gay man would want to sleep with something that pathetic looking.

[Alcibiades]

218. Please don't tar us too broadly

The real common thread is that they have power and money, and therefore access to folks who will have sex with them. Something like 75% of men who earn over 75k a year admit cheating. I don't think it's a Carolina thing: it's a human thing.

And, on the heels of Ensign, Vitter, Craig, Giuliani and Foley, it looks more like a Republican thing. Of course, there was Clinton, Spitzer, Jackson and Edwards, too. But the hypocrisy is greater when you spend so much time complaining how homosexuals are threatening the institution of marriage. I guess the gays made him fly to Argentina to bang someone else's wife.

[gauguin57]

66. Politician has affair. Film at 11.

Getting tired of the skanks on parade ... of both parties. Especially the family-values Look at Us Aren't We a Lovely Christian Family skanks.

But I guess we all need to grow up.

[8 track mind]

71. in other news...

a bear had a bowel movement in a heavily wooded area

[Algorem]

68. So.He was naked after all.And naked on foreign soil.

This is even worse than I had hoped.

[gauguin57]

77. I demand to see his birth certificate!

Bwaahaahaaa

[8 track mind]

78. still though

this doesn't compare to having SEX in the OVAL OFFICE like those Godless "Demon-crats"


:sarcasm:

[AlbertCat]

109. At least Dems can multi-task... work AND have an affair.

[glinda]

117. Very funny!

[nc4bo]

130. Another LOL. Some of these comments almost have me in tears this afternoon. nt

[gauguin57]

72. Check out the headline of the story right under the Sanford breaking news on CNN:

More 'daddy-time'
Hard-working fathers might like these five tips to increase "daddy-time" with the kids

[JayMusgrove]

81. Kind of ironic that he went away for the weekend of father's day.

Because he just needed a .............................

[No Elephants]

Tip # 1 On Father's Day, be on the same continent as your kids.

[xchrom]

75. yay! republican Family Values in Action!!!

now this is gossip i can enjoy.

[DainBramaged]

79. Oh holy penis of GOP Family values, prevent us from being found out

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :spray: :spray: :spray: :spray:

[Betsy Ross]

82. Another politician commenting

said that this was a personal matter, not a political matter. Wonder what he was saying during the Clinton years.

But you have to give Sanford credit. He acted like a mentsch.

[nc4bo]

85. Seems more like someone (the woman's husband maybe) may have had something to do with this most

honorable admission.

Something's up. These people rarely admit to something unless some else has their gonads in a vice grip.

[No Elephants]

183. You mean like being caught being AWOL for five days because one of your rivals called the police and

demanded to know where you were? Then having it come out that your whereabouts were unknown, no wait, you were hiking in appalachia, no wait, you were in Argentina, so easily confused with Appalachia.

You mean, that kind of vise? (BTW, your spelling was funnier.)

[nc4bo]

215. The missing Gov. headlines were actually worse than his admission..

All that drama only to have a huge let down when he admitted with the truth.

I'd love to know how exactly he was found missing? It's not like his wife called 911 and put out a missing person report for her husband.

Vise/Vice - I missed that one but it was this affair was a bit of nastiness if I don't say so myself.

Listening to Tweety, who is sympathetic btw. Now they're discussing whether or not Sanford used tax payer dollars for his booty calls to Argentina - OOPS.

[sledgehammer]

83. Hilarious piece

The author must feel like a real winner right now:

Well, thanks to the invasive media, starting today he is back at work in Columbia. So where has he been hiding? I’ll let the government-run media fight over which trails he was at. But don’t believe for a second that his wife and other VIP’s didn’t know where he was. Quite simply, he left for a few days to clear his head. He did this without taking his private security detail, which you and I pay for. Because of this no one really wanted to tell the media where he actually was. They knew - but they were smart enough to not give it away.

<snip>

http://www.sanford2012.org/where-in-the-world-is-mark-sanford/

[JayMusgrove]

91. Did you purposely not want to reveal where that quote is from? If so don't read below.

MARK SANFORD 2012

MARK SANFORD FOR PRESIDENT

website.

[sledgehammer]

97. I put the link in there...

...figured it would be self-evident (sanford2012.org)

Probably should have explicitly mentioned the site as well.

BTW, check out this Facebook group. I guess that "fewer members" number is going to go up and up!


Group:
Mark Sanford for President 2012
Size:
856 members
Type:
Organizations - Political Organizations
New:
35 Fewer Members, 15 Wall Posts

[jmowreader]

157. Is "clearing his head" the current GOP codeword for an affair?

Technically it's correct--but most people think he means the head between his shoulders, not the one at the end of his penis!

[sledgehammer]

270. No, "hiking the Appalachian Trail" is the new codeword! n/t

[felinetta]

86. Sanford is a real piece of work!

Maybe this could become a weekly news item with other Repubs. 
Sanford is such a wanker.  And the tears were a nice touch. 
All we needed was "Hearts and Flowers" playing in
the background.  By the way, I think the Franklin Mint should
do a series of plates of all these idiot repubs and their
phony family values.  NICE PARTY, BUT NO SURPRISE!

[Gormy Cuss]

87. What an idiot.

Had he simply informed his key staff and his security detail of his whereabouts he would have had a better shot at keeping this private. Now we can start the Sanford resignation countdown clock.

[Lucky Luciano]

89. LOL!

No doubt he rails against gay marriage because allowing gays to marry would violate and cheapen the insitition of marriage! Typical thug.

[No Elephants]

188. See, he was right. Gay marriage in the Northeast threatened his S.C. marriage.

And his 8 year affair in Argentina did not help.

[mvd]

92. Good, that should end his Presidental aspirations

He's one of the few conservatives that I was concerned about.

[Hepburn]

93. Whadda shock....

....NOT!

Come on...why would a married man disappear for days ~~ including Father's Day ~~ and his wife and family has no clue where he is?

Hint he is screwing around!

:rofl:

[western mass]

94. thank god - no teenage boys & panda suits involved!

[JayMusgrove]

95. Mark Sanford on some issues...from his Governor's Web site

Click here for 4 full quotes on Civil Rights OR other candidates on Civil Rights OR background on Civil Rights.
No civil unions; define one-man-one-woman marriage. (Nov 2002)
Affirmative action in state contracts, but not colleges. (Nov 2002)
Voted YES on banning gay adoptions in DC. (Jul 1999)


http://www.ontheissues.org/Mark_Sanford.htm

[tomm2thumbs]

126. one man, one woman, one concubine marriage is what he meant

he ran out of ink I suppose - or couldn't spell

[nc4bo]

129. LOL. nt

[MellowDem]

96. You gotta be kidding me...

Are the Republicans really that predictable.

[mikeytherat]

98. Bailed on wife and kids, on Fathers' Day weekend, to hook up with his (also married w/kids) honey.

And tries to hide said affair with the worst cover job. Ever.

Frightfully insensitive, utterly self-absorbed, and dumb as a box of rocks. The GOP in a nutshell.

mikey_the_rat

[JCMach1]

101. You can't make this up... Hot Argentinian Chick HE met over the net

ROFLMAO

[abq e streeter]

164. As I've said before -you CAN make this stuff up, but as long as there are repubs, you don't have to

:rofl:

[comrade snarky]

102. "I wanted to do something exotic,"

The Republican governor told the South Carolina newspaper he considering hiking, but at the last minute changed his mind.

"But I said 'no' I wanted to do something exotic," Sanford told the newspaper.


The jokes just write themselves don't they? I am so looking forward to the Daily Show and Colbert!

[grasswire]

114. oh my lordy

What a stupid putz.

[NewJeffCT]

124. The writers are probably saying to themselves today

either, "Some days, I just love my job" or "some day, my job is just so easy..."

[WinkyDink]

224. So he did!

[moobu2]

103. Hypocrite !!!!

[DuaneBidoux]

104. This is more fun than a progressive should be allowed to have.

Eventually we will have to pay for the joy we are receiving from a disintegrating Republican party.

[nc4bo]

119. I hate to say this but

the next public political "admission" could very well be from a Dem...:rofl:

At least we don't wave around the ole family value/Jesus/abstinence flag - well most of us don't lol.

So we'll enjoy this one while can.

[No Elephants]

207. Everyone has family values, for feck's sake, though some of us mess up badly. The mistake

of the Republicans was not talking about family values, but claiming that they were the ONLY ones with family values and that the Democrats had none. It's being just that dishonest and ridiculous, and not admitting they were human, like everyone else, that got them in trouble.

[TheCowsCameHome]

106. Oh dear, this is not good news for the GOP, to which I say

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I sincerely mean that.

[Odin2005]

107. I knew it!

Family values my ass!

[loyalkydem]

111. and to think

yesterday I was joking that he had an affair. I'm not at all surprised that's what he was doing.

[Hoopla Phil]

115. Well, at least he wasn't out hiking naked. LOL.

[glinda]

121. I don't know, did you see his "tan"? Naked nights on the beach me thinks.

[bluevoter4life]

118. Lookie here

Faux News making their famous "mistake"





They have since "correctly" identified him as Republican

[nc4bo]

122. Bwahaha - trying to disown him already!! nt

[JayMusgrove]

168. They did that to Larry Craig, too!

The folks over there are amazing liars!

[bluevoter4life]

175. Did they?

A buddy of mine and I were having an argument over this and I tried to find the Larry Craig image but no success was found. I did find the Mark Foley picture though. Anyone know if they did it for Ensign and Vitter as well?

[ellie]

123. For fuck's sake

can't these repukes keep it in their pants?

[NewJeffCT]

128. CNN tonight: Lou Dobbs outraged over Sanford outsourcing his mistress!

"Don't we have enough desirable women in the good ole' USofA? Out of 300 million people, he couldn't find one red-blooded American girl to fool around with?"



:sarcasm:

[nc4bo]

133. Ha! Homegrown is always best, they say. nt

[AlbertCat]

212. Lou Dobbs outraged over Sanford outsourcing his mistress!

I can hear Uncle Pat Buchanan now too:

"See?! See what happens when you learn Spanish?!"

[Infomaniac]

134. It's the bad karma the Nopers bought on themselves for impeaching Clinton for a blow job

And Sanford is the biggest dumbass on the planet. If you're not smart enough to cheat on your wife without leaving a breadcrumb trail a mile long than you're not smart enough to be president.

[shadowknows69]

135. I wonder if the age of this "woman" in aregentina will be disclosed.

This has a worse smell to it than someone just cheating on their wife.

ETA I see in other posts now she was married with kids.

[NewJeffCT]

138. I suspect there is more to it than 2 married people on the internets

maybe they're both into something kinky?

[mudplanet]

136. This is all because we let gays marry.....

No, maybe its the Jews! No, it's because of immoral television programming! Satan?

[JayMusgrove]

147. YES, all of the above..... here's the full story in song!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rixkck8QnjY&feature=channel_page

and this, too, for fun, since it's South Carolina.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgwnkNDT4Yg&feature=channel_page

[Best_man23]

137. More "Do As I Say, Not As I Do"

From the "Do As I Say, Not As I Do" party.

[undergroundnomore]

139. don't cry for me Argentina

I'm just a cheater....Couldn't keep my peter....out of this woman

[rolfboy]

140. Ensign/Sanfort '12--The Cuckold Ticket. eom.

[Tansy_Gold]

142. I DON'T CARE ABOUT SANFORD -- WHAT ABOUT FRANKEN??!!??!!

.

[edbermac]

143. He went all the way to Argentina for this broad?

She must be one great piece of ass!

[proteus_lives]

199. My first thought too.

She has be something else for a guy to jump continents. ;-)

[VaYallaDawg]

155. It's all Bill Clinton's fault. Or Obama's, take your pick. n/t

[mahatmakanejeeves]

158. I blame teh gays.

Why not? It's been at least a week since we did something to destroy America.

Falwell

I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way, all of them who have tried to secularize America. I point the finger in their face and say 'you helped this happen.'

[JayMusgrove]

162. We all need a good laugh.... if Falwell cannot give us one, try ....

this video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rixkck8QnjY&feature=channel_page

[mikeytherat]

159. "I found a friend. An adult friend. Online. The service was some sort of Adult Friend Finder."

Please submit your own joke.

mikey_the_rat

[mrs_p]

163. so shocked

[Drunken Irishman]

166. What a fucking douchebag.

How do you think his children feel that he left to see 'her' on Father's Day?

[AlbertCat]

225. How do you think his children feel

Probably relieved they didn't have to do stupid photo ops with daddy this year.




I hear Mrs. Sandford and Hikey McCheat are "working it out". I hope it's like when my mother found out daddy was having an affair. I can still hear Mom now....in her calm but stern voice: "End it or I'll take every cent you are making now, every cent you have ever made, and every cent you will ever make in the future." It ended immediately. She knew my father well.

[DinahMoeHum]

167. And another GOoper bites the dust. . .

:nuke:

[Nye Bevan]

171. Another Promise Keeper?

aka Promiscuous Cheater?

[Dangerously Amused]

174. *giggle*

*smirk*

[jennied]

178. I am so naive.

I listened to The Young Turks last night and I thought it was absurd that Cenk jumped the conclusion that he was having an affair. I admit I'm young and naive. lol

[kiranon]

208. That's ok - I'm old and naive.

Thought maybe he went to Buenos Aires for a facelift.

[d_b]

180. lol. Just bury the GOP already

[Initech]

181. Come on sing it with me - Another one bites the dust!

Another one bites the dust! And another one on and another one... another one bites the dust!

[Zambero]

182. That's 2 GOP Prez hopefuls wiped out in less than a week!

Who's next to fall? I'm betting on Sarah!

[JayMusgrove]

185. Sarah has never been smart enough to have an affair, but really

Sarah bit the dust when she met Katie Couric.

[WinkyDink]

226. That wasn't the word I've read about her.

[davepc]

184. I've been crying in Argentinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnna/the truth is I did leave you!

All through my Republican Days/my mad existence/I didn't keep my prooooooooomise

to my wife.

[JerseygirlCT]

186. You know what the upshot of all this GOP adultry is going to be, right?

They'll find one guy who hasn't cheated on his wife, and expect that everyone will bestow sainthood on him for those high, high standards of his.

[Nye Bevan]

190. Yep. Mitt Romney's stock is rising.

Magic underwear beats adulterous Southern-hemispheric sex jaunts.

[JayMusgrove]

193. Mittens will be a weak vote-getter, the far religious right

will never get out and vote for him, and I think there will be a substantial third party, (Ron Paul Libertarian?) party turn out.

I wonder if we need to find a way to have Mittens get caught in a boys bathroom somewhere with his pants down.

[No Elephants]

205. Don't bet on it. I know a lot of Neo Theos who would much rather have a

penitent "real" Christian than a "Satanic" Mormon. And I do not believe any Republican wins the nomination without a solid Neo Theo base.

[burning rain]

187. He can still survive as governor & even run for president.

What he needs to do is tour the country with Carrie Prejean, advocating traditional marriage. That would be not just a two-fer, but a three-fer: he'd get back in the good graces of the traditional values crowd, he'd have fun, and he'd have a perfect cover ("Heck, this is some hard work, but I want to do right by my Lord!").

[damntexdem]

192. But what's he really covering up?

Come on: is an Argentinian affair any more believable than nude hiking on the Appalachian Trail?

But then, he IS a Republican -- so I guess it is.

[JenniferJuniper]

195. Agree. There's more. The "affair" is directing attention away from the disappearance.

And the manner in which he disappeared (no one knows where he is, staff can't reach him, the wife's demeanor, lies and disinformation about the Appalachian Trail of all damn things, Father's Day, etc) is just too bizarre even for your typical Republican.

[City Lights]

197. Another GOP hypocrite bites the dust.

Who's next?

[hangman86]

198. I'm such a dork

All I keep thinking are ways to make a clever "Sanford and Son" reference to this story. And worst of all, I've got nothing so far. :shrug:

[JenniferJuniper]

204. Well, Sandy Koufax's first name is Sanford.

Maybe that will help get it off your mind.

[sandrakae]

200. Do I understand this correctly. He went all the way to Argentina for a booty call?

I'm sorry but he should resign. A governor cannot just disappear without telling anyone where he is. I don't give a rats ass about his booty call. He could could be screwing a dozen woman as long as someone knows his general vicinity and he is reachable by phone.

[slutticus]

201. Another GOPer fiercely defending the sanctity of marriage

[hay rick]

203. Gives whole new meaning to "Pampas ass" nt.

[laylah]

206. What little I could watch at work

today made me chuckle. Why is it ALWAYS the horney Repubs that ask for respect of their family's privacy? Hypocritical assholes.

[Alcibiades]

211. Hiking the Appalachian Trail

Will this become a new euphemism?

[Best_man23]

261. I second that

[Geek_Girl]

213. Wow my husband called that one

I actually believed he was hiking the Appalachian trail. I feel silly now.

[marions ghost]

267. "Hiking the Appalachian Trail...."

--and now a new euphemistic code phrase is born...

So was he (wink wink) "hiking the Appalachian Trail?..." ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

[nini]

216. I'M SHOCKED - SHOCKED I TELL YOU

:rofl:


hahahhahha

[No Elephants]

217. Some quotes from Sanford on Clinton, honesty, etc......

“The bottom line, though, is I am sure there will be a lot of legalistic explanations pointing out that the president lied under oath. His situation was not under oath. The bottom line, though, is he still lied. He lied under a different oath, and that is the oath to his wife. So it’s got to be taken very, very seriously.”

“We ought to ask questions…rather than circle the wagons for one of our tribe.”

“I think it would be much better for the country and for him personally (to resign). I come from the business side. If you had a chairman or president in the business world facing these allegations, he’d be gone.”

“The issue of lying is probably the biggest harm, if you will, to the system of Democratic government, representatives government, because it undermines trust. And if you undermine trust in our system, you undermine everything.”

Also, there may be an impeachment. http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/24/sanford-affair/

And, he apparently did use state money to travel to Argentina (heard on the Chris Matthews Show, citing breaking news from Politico)

[JayMusgrove]

220. Good research job there! WOWZER!!!!!!!!

You should send those along to the Press in SC, so they can put them in the morning papers.

[nc4bo]

221. Pot meet kettle. Words recorded for all eternity. nt

[yoyossarian]

219. HA! A picture of his "friend" has emerged!

RIGHT-WINGERS DO IT RIGHT!!!




http://steponnopets.com/peo">PRESIDENT EVIL ONLINE!
has risen from the grave!

[jazzjunkysue]

234. Now, how am I going to erase that terrifying image out of my brain?

:crazy:

[a la izquierda]

222. I gotta tell you..

I was at the bar, watching the US play Spain (I won't say what happened for those folks who worked and may have Tivo'ed it)...but when that came across another TV---I literally became hysterical with laughter!

[Fearless]

228. 'Cuse me whilist I warm up the band...

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Also the commentary regarding "at least it was a woman" is absolutely disgusting and despicable especially here on DU!

[National Steel 27]

229. Well, he had the "A" part right.

"A"ppalachia?......

Nah.....

"A"rgentina?...

Nah...

"A"ffair?....

Yeah, that's it.

[Wizard777]

230. The Governor needs a Privacy that is not conducive to continuation in public office.

[glinda]

231. I think he should move to Argentina. He has my "blessing".

[Gin]

238. his press conference told me he loves the mistresss....the wife and kids were low on his priority li

the wife knows that too...or she wouldn't have asked him to leave...his tears didn't phase me one bit...he ruined two marriages and upset the lives of 6 kids.

I hope he cries his eyes out...then fades into the sunset.

[glinda]

263. I agree. He talked about her a lot. Hardly a thing about his wife and kids in comparison.

[DFW]

236. How DO you tell your kids something like this?

I'll bet his next trip to Argentina is one way.

"Don't cry for me Carolina, the truth is I always left you........."

[santamargarita]

239. This what I said just yesterday...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5909258&mesg_id=5909508

[Umbral]

241. Isn't South Carolina the 'home land' of the Dominionist movement?

They gotta be loving this.

[Libertas1776]

243. Well, there's

one less douchebag Repub in the running for 2012.

[happygoluckytoyou]

244. YOU KEPT YOUR PROMISE.... NOW KEEP YOUR DISTANCE... another GOP DOA LMAO

[Jawja]

ROFLMFAO!!!!

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[RayStar]

247. LOVE

This man is deeply in love with this woman. I wish him complete happiness.

[TK421]

253. How utterly delicious!!!!! Everyone knows how much this damages the GOP, right?

RIGHT? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

edited to add: can't wait to see how Glen Beck will explain this one away!!!

[kestrel91316]

258. O.M.G. I spend half a day away from DU and look at the mess when I

check back in. Is this for real???

[kestrel91316]

259. I'm so relieved he wasn't in the Dominican Republic. (sarcasm)

[Zech Marquis The 2nd]

260. another one bites the dust!

This is just too rich :evilgrin: :rofL: :rofl:

[FlyByNight]

262. Yet another Republican't unable to "govern" their behavior

Sorry for the pun. Well, not that sorry.

Can the Dems finally put a rest to this "bipartisan" horseshit all too many of them speak of? I know they like being part of the Congressional Club but enough already.

The Republican'ts seem utterly unable to speak or act rationally about governance, policy, personal behavior or well, you name it. They're a joke and the Dems should treat them like they're irrelevant - because they are.

:rant:

[47of74]

266. Said it before, I'll say it again: Hypocrisy, thy name is Republican!

I can't wait to hear Stephanie Miller tomorrow - probably be as much fun as when Tappy McWidestance was exposed.

[24601]

268. Resign - Resign - Resign...period.

If you cannot trust someone in their most important life commitment, you cannot trust him/her to run the government, any government. Regardless of the position, party, race, religion, etc - just getr the fuck out and let your successor pick up the pieces. Get out of any job that requires public trust. If your spouse can't trust you, we can't either.

[doeriver]

273. Hmmmm...

Now the the Sanford boys realize why their Daddy Governor didn't take them to go hiking in the mountains with him...