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demoleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 06:08 PM
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Warsaw ghetto uprising head dies
Edited on Fri Oct-02-09 06:12 PM by demoleft
Source: bbc

The last surviving leader of the 1943 Warsaw ghetto uprising against the Nazis, Marek Edelman, has died at the age of 90.

The uprising - triggered by the Nazis' decision to send residents to concentration camps - lasted three weeks before it was crushed.

Mr Edelman, then 23, was one of 200 young Jews who fought German troops.

His friend, Paula Sawicka, told the Associated Press that he died "at home, among friends".


Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8288156.stm



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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 06:10 PM
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1. Maybe the bravest man to ever live
Edited on Fri Oct-02-09 06:27 PM by kenny blankenship
Certainly nobody ever faced worse odds.

I say "man", but I remember also that in what I've read about the uprising, women were often prominent in the first attacks on German soldiers. As the leader of brave fighters though he inevitably embodies the spirit of the whole.
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demoleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 06:12 PM
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2. agreed. one of the bravest. n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 07:24 PM
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10. It's an amazing story. n/t
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 06:21 PM
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3. thank you, Mr. Edelman
Mr Edelman escaped and helped coordinate anti-Nazi resistance. After the war he became a doctor and joined Poland's democratic opposition, speaking out against racism and on human rights. :patriot:
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 06:28 PM
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4. In tribute for Marek Edelman
With so much respect and admiration.

We use the word "hero" so cheaply today.

Here's a genuine hero.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 06:30 PM
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5. A hero. RIP.
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 06:35 PM
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6. Rest in PEACE Mr.Edelman; if anyone ever earned eternal peace, it's you
Speaking as a Jew, but more importantly, as a human being, the bravery of this man and the men and women who fought with him, is almost beyond my feeble ability to even comprehend.
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era veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 06:40 PM
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7. RIP
Lied to by Stalin with the Red Army outside of town waiting for the Nazis & Jews to kill each other. Brave Man
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 02:07 AM
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31. No that was the 1944 revolt of the Polish Home Army
Edited on Sat Oct-03-09 02:10 AM by happyslug
In 1943 the Germans were still well into what is now the Ukraine. Kiev was still under German Occupation. Soviet forces did NOT enter Polish Territory till 3 January 1944. The Polish Home Army revolted in August 1944 hoping to Liberate Warsaw before the Soviet Army took it, but the Soviet Forces stayed outside Warsaw till the Germans had put down that revolt, then the Soviet Forces took Warsaw. The official Soviet position was they had fought a long campaign starting right after D-Day (The Soviet Summer Offensive was to coordinate with the Western Allies invasion of France. This was to force the Nazis to throw more and more troops against the Soviet Forces while the allies built up their forces in France).

Kiev under German Occupation till November 3, 1943:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kiev_(1943)

Warsaw Jewish Revolt(April 19, 1943 - May 16, 1943), Notice it was over BEFORE even the Battle of Kursk:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto_Uprising

Revolt of the Polish Home Army in August to October 1944, this is when the Soviet Stood outside the City:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Uprising

Battle of Kursk, Hitler last serious effort to defeat the Soviet Army, this was July to August 1943:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kursk
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era veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 05:43 AM
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38. My mistake
The years have taken a toll. I always admired the Poles for their bravery.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 07:19 PM
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8. Godspeed.
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Tanelorn Donating Member (162 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 07:19 PM
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9. The face of a man who has seen so much
My wife and I were in Warsaw on the anniversary of the uprising this year . We went to the Museum of Warsaw in the old town and saw the emotional display and day by day almost hour by hour account of the events. The bombed out old town was apparently rebuilt by the citizens using photos, paintings and plans of the original. The building programme took place over 12 years with little or no help from the soviet government.Another tribute to the resilience of the Polish people.

The bravery and heroism of Marek Edelman and his commrades needs to be honoured and remembered. Thanks for the posting.
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Libertas1776 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 07:48 PM
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11. RIP
Mr. Edelman. Your courage will never be forgotten.

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ScottLand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 07:51 PM
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12. Rest in Peace, Mr. Edelman.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 08:06 PM
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13. RIP...
your courage will be admired for generations.
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Treo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 08:06 PM
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14. Good thing he had a gun NT
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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 08:44 PM
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19. As Sad As It Is Inevitable.

One of our DU Gun Nuts, sliming a solemn and well-deserved tribute, trying to further his own one-issue political aims.

God bless Mr. Edelman. RIP.
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Treo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 11:12 PM
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26. How's that working out for you
So tell me how you think the uprising would have worked out if the Jews had been unarmed?
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 11:51 PM
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29. what you seem to miss is this is not about guns, its about a man.
take it to some other place. this is a memorial to a man.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 12:01 AM
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30. Deleted message
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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 09:55 AM
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36. Give It A Rest. Show Some Taste. Exhibit Some Respect. (n/t)
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OhioBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 11:46 PM
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27. I agree
God bless Mr. Edelman. RIP.
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 08:11 PM
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15. Here's his Wiki:
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 08:26 PM
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16. Warsaw Ghetto Uprising:
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 08:35 PM
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17. Rest in peace, and thank you n/t
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 08:44 PM
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18. Wherever heroes go, godspeed Mr. Edelman,
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The abyss Donating Member (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 08:50 PM
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20. Another note from the past
Edited on Fri Oct-02-09 08:58 PM by The abyss
Or perhaps an upbeat thought.

Let us please remember all the “watch makers”, “house wives”, “shop keepers” and school kids that made up the ranks of resistance within occupied Europe.

Their sprits live on. They haunt and inspire those that live now.

Marek Edelman: Rest In Peace, allow others to do your work of old.

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 09:07 PM
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23. I never forget the picture of the women walking out under Nazi guard.
They looked like my mother and my grandmother who were safe here while the family was back there in
Warsaw and Sokolka and Moscow. The Moscow ones lived.
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The abyss Donating Member (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 11:03 PM
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25. May the resistance live on.
Marek Edelman: please rest. Your sprit is true.

<>


Your sprit lives on
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 09:01 PM
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21. I never forget & neither should you... spread it around..
Edited on Fri Oct-02-09 09:04 PM by Historic NY
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 09:04 PM
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22. I could wish his long life wasn't haunted
but I see from his face that it was. RIP without dreams or nightmares.
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HillbillyBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 09:55 PM
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24. I had an uncle that survived Buchenwald
nt
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 11:49 PM
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28. you never know what you are until you are put to the test. Rest in
peace, friend.
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smiley Donating Member (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 03:03 AM
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32. R.I.P.
courageous individual
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 03:26 AM
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33. May his name be remembered for a blessing. Thank you for your service to humanity, Mr Edelman.
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DarthDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 04:40 AM
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34. Amazing Man

I consider myself very knowledable about WWII, but am deeply ashamed to say that I did not know Mr. Edelman by name. I'll never forget it now.

RIP, sir. What a hero.
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 06:34 AM
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35. RIP..... nt
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 04:31 PM
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37. Epic heroes complemented by worthy leaders.
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