Lieberman says he'll filibuster Reid healthcare plan

[Joanne98]

Source: Politico/MSNBC

POLITICO (Washington) -- Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) said Tuesday that he'd back a GOP filibuster of Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's health care reform bill.

Lieberman, who caucuses with Democrats and is positioning himself as a fiscal hawk on the issue, said he opposes any health care bill that includes a government-run insurance program — even if it includes a provision allowing states to opt out of the program, as Reid's has said the Senate bill will.

"We're trying to do too much at once," Lieberman said. "To put this government-created insurance company on top of everything else is just asking for trouble for the taxpayers, for the premium payers and for the national debt. I don't think we need it now."

Lieberman added that he'd vote against a public option plan "even with an opt-out because it still creates a whole new government entitlement program for which taxpayers will be on the line."


Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE59Q3YB20091027

[truthisfreedom]

1. He rears his head from the great republican anal cavity...

Where ya been, Joe? Just waiting for the right moment to make an idiot of yourself?

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[bjobotts]

135. He can vote against the bill without supporting a filibuster.Which proves he's obstructionist

[saigon68]

137. Why is he still around?

[derby378]

2. Fine. Let him vote against the weakened PO. We'll come back with an even stronger one.

A public option with no opt-out, with no trigger, that anyone can join whether they're currently insured or not.

No more pandering to Snowe, Baucus, Conrad, etc. Let's get the damn thing done and done right for once.

That said, the Democrats didn't have any further use for Joe since he defeated Ned Lamont in 2006.

[jasi2006]

178. Obama really needs to know who are his enemies. nt

[tomm2thumbs]

3. I wonder if the LIEberman bl*wjob was worth it, Reid?

[kestrel91316]

4. Start looking for another job, Joe, because your Senate days are numbered.

If John Ensign doesn't take me up on my offer of an entry-level back office job (P/T of course), I can let you have a shot at it, but of course your lack of experience means I will have to pay you sub-minimum wage under the table.

[Capn Sunshine]

108. unfortunately we have , what, till 2012 with this horse's ass

Unless he resigns due to huge outcry . But ask Senator Ensign about resigning.

[depakid]

5. Well, that was a big surprise

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

6. Strip him of his committee chairmanship NOW!

Go ahead, Harry, do it - it will be the ballsiest thing you have ever done and everybody will cheer you on!

It should have happened earlier when he campaigned for McCain. Get him out of the Democratic caucus - he's just there to be a mole and a spy anyway.

[tomm2thumbs]

8. +1 cut him off entirely - worthless human garbage

[donheld]

127. +1 more

[maddezmom]

9. +100

Time for hime to go sit with his real party.

[grytpype]

26. +1^100^100

[krispos42]

39. Agree. n/t

[Blue State Bandit]

55. Bust him down, Harry!

Maybe it's time for the nuclear option?

[Barack_America]

73. +1. In fact, my future donations to the Dem party are contingent on this.

I refuse to allow my money be spent on traitors and milquetoasts.

[mbperrin]

113. Yes, can we kick him out of the caucus now?

My back really hurts from him stabbing it all the time....

[quakerboy]

114. +1

take us back to 59, so they can stop claiming that we have a supermajority when we really don't.

Do those democrats in his state who voted for him get what they did now?

[MaineDem]

119. Absofuckinglutely

I've had it with him.

[Fearless]

139. Without question.

[beac]

159. Email Reid here:

http://reid.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm

Let him know what we think of Lieberman's traitorous ways.


Call Lieberscum himself at these numbers:
Washington
[phone] Voice
[phone] Fax
For TTY Call 711

Connecticut
[phone] Voice
[phone] In CT
For TTY Call 711

And email him here:

http://lieberman.senate.gov/contact/index.cfm?regarding=issue

[bamacrat]

165. And make it public so that all the other wavering tangy dems see what can happen.

Make him the poster boy for gridlock in Washington. and why nothing ever gets done. What a piece of shit.

[JerseygirlCT]

171. +1

No cloture, no chairmanship.

[ramapo]

7. That fucking snake

My blood pressure rose about 50 points when I heard this.

This guy is unbelievable.

So what to do about it?

I'm calling and writing but I don't think this bastard really cares.

[katsy]

12. No he doesn't.

He's a senator in my state.

I write to him on a regular basis. I call.

He replies with a form letter that is all bs, no substance.

I will support anyone who runs against him. Anyone at all. Even a NE republican can be reasoned with or at least shamed. Not lieberman. He's all maggot.

[varelse]

36. Maybe it's time for an impromptu "town hall"

right outside his office :P

[katsy]

38. Yes. Yes it is time.

Who's in with me?

[AlbertCat]

105. Maybe it's time for an impromptu "town hall"

outside his Temple on the Sabbath..... the selfish fundie nut case!

[JerseygirlCT]

172. I'm with you

I don't care that he supposedly caucuses with the Dems. What has that gotten us, exactly?

Next go-round, if he has the nerve to run (and I still think he's been acting like he won't - burning a lot of bridges here), I will vote for anyone else. Too bad I can't vote for Weicker again against Lieberman.

[beltanefauve]

45. I sent him an e mail once

and weeks later, got a form letter stating that he only accepts mail from his constituents.
Can you imagine the amount of hate mail this guy would get if his box was open to everyone?

[JerseygirlCT]

173. As the other poster said, even constituents only

get a form letter, scolding them for not seeing things as he does. All in that trademarked Lieberman whiny tone.

[Cronus Protagonist]

10. Lieberman is pwned, let's be clear on that matter

He might as well just admit it. He has ZERO integrity.

[Xipe Totec]

11. Call his bluff n/t

[demwing]

18. exactly! We don't need his damn vote anymore.

make him vote with the money. Let him show himself for the pubic hair he really is.

[Lasher]

13. Here's what Lieberman said a week ago:

Lieberman says he's inclined to vote with his caucus against any GOP filibuster aimed at blocking a health care bill with a public option from coming to the Senate floor, "because our country needs health insurance reform," he says. "But if I decide in the end the bill that is about to leave the Senate is gonna do more harm than good, then I won't vote for cloture at that point."

In other words, Lieberman might be willing to help Republicans filibuster a health care bill when it comes up for a final vote.

http://www.wbur.org/news/npr/113990953

So he's a fiscal hawk on this issue. But not on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan we had to borrow money for.

Joe's not been getting the attention he craves. A knife in Democrats' backs has always been good for that.

[TheCoxwain]

42. How did this guy manage to get the VP candidate Slot?

[Lasher]

120. Gore was going for the 'moderate' vote.

And he made a big mistake. Playing both ends against the middle doesn't make you a moderate.

[defendandprotect]

131. Gore certainly knew he was a religious fanatic/Trojan horse --

[harun]

167. Because they were hoping for the neo-con vote. Cheney brought the neo-con vote for B*sh instead.

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[meegbear]

15. DOUCHEBAG!

[demwing]

16. Do your worst, nutsack

we don't need your vote.

All we need is 50+1. Easy to do with Joe

[CBHagman]

17. His voicemail is already full.

I was going to say "that *#$%!!'s voicemail is already full," but that would be rude.

Lieberman's number is 202-224-4041.

[ramapo]

35. I got to it

The slimy bastard actually recorded his own message.

I was so angry I really couldn't speak intelligently.

[shotten99]

19. I hate this fucking guy.

[brooklynite]

20. Perhaps someone should ask Gov. Rell what SHE wants for the State of Connecticut

Even for a Republican, I'm not sure she's so doctrinaire as to screw her chances with the Connecticut electorate.

[No Elephants]

155. Fuck Rell. Ask the people of Connecticut what THEY want.

[Alhena]

21. This means only the "trigger" option can pass- the White House was right ...

this vote for the public option is just a show to demonstrate to progressives that they "tried" to get a public option. Then they will pass the "trigger" option with Olympia Snowe's support.

But the fact is that with both Lieberman and Snowe promising to fillibuster the trigger-less public option, it still only gets 59 votes if all Dem Senators plus Sanders vote for it.

[IndianaGreen]

22. Sure, I'll filibuster a health care reform bill I don't agree with. And I don't agree with it as it

Lieberman: Sure, I'll filibuster a health care reform bill I don't agree with. And I don't agree with it as it is now.

In other news, Sen. Blanche Lincoln today spoke out against the public option and the bill Sen. Reid (D-NV) announced yesterday. But revealingly, she did not say one way or another how she would vote on cloture (where the Dems need 60 votes), which is the key question.

I'd say it's assumed that, if the Dems are going to win this, several of the centrist and conservative Dems will vote no on the bill itself (where they only need 50) but yes on cloture (the key vote where they need 60).

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/

[Hawkeye-X]

23. Fine. Revoke all of his committee chairmanship, his committee assignments

and throw him out of the caucus.

Useless piece of shit.

Hawkeye-X

[brooklynite]

24. UPDATE - AP says Lieberman WILL NOT Fillibuster...

from AP:

Connecticut Sen. Joseph Lieberman said Tuesday that while he won't vote to block Majority Leader Harry Reid's plan from going to the Senate floor for debate, he would ultimately oppose the measure because it includes a public option.

[Alhena]

27. No, that's the same thing he said in the other interview ....

there are 3 votes we are talking about:

1. Bringing it to the Senate floor.
2. Cloture (i.e. shutting off the fillibuster once it gets to the floor) requiring 60 votes.
3. The actual up-or-down vote requiring 50 votes.

You only get to 3 if you get past 1 and 2. Lieberman says he will vote for 1 but not 2. So the public option stops at step 2 without Lieberman's vote.

[dixiegrrrrl]

78. Your clarification was very helpful,

especially at the end of long blurry brained day.
Thank you.

[DFW]

34. Let him vote with his Republican friends and allies during the final vote

As long as he lets it go to a vote, his vote isn't needed for passage, and I don't think it could have been counted on in any case.

Lieberman has just abandoned all pretense of his "hawk on military matters, liberal on social matters" label, which seems to be
either a relic, or a self-bestowed label in the first place. You're hardly "liberal on social matters" if you are cool with
denying a few dozen million of your countrymen (and women) access to medical care because the war you cheered on sucked up
too much money cover them.

[tomm2thumbs]

25. if they want to filibuster, make them do it

I want to see it. America needs to see it.

MAKE THEM FILIBUSTER!! I want the GOP & all America have to sit there and listen to the grating, obnoxious voices of the Republicans 24/7 while they try to drag our country into a corporate bank account.

[shimmergal]

61. Yes.

Make them stand up and bloviate in front of the whole nation for hours and days.

[grassfed]

28. This is Blackmail to get Obama to bomb Iran

[BunkerHill24]

68. Hear, Hear...n/t

[Soylent Brice]

29. karma is a BITCH, Sen. Droopy.

[nightrain]

30. I wonder how the uninsured/uncovered voters for Lieberman in CT feel about their vote now

that he obstructs again?

[get the red out]

31. I have come to despise this man!

He is a disgrace to his state, and I wonder if he is even working in the interests of OUR country, even in his own miserable mind.

[Frank Cannon]

47. Someone needs to run against him in his bogus party's primary next time

Let's see him pull the same stunt he did before and switch parties again. Maybe he'll finally jump over to the Republicans where he belongs.

[Mithreal]

32. Call his office, call your senators, call the White House.

I still can't get through the White House comment line but will keep trying.

[t0dd]

33. Good.

Pass a stronger, robust public option using reconciliation. Screw him and the other narcissists.

[dixiegrrrrl]

79. that picture is amazing. Where is it from?

Very moving, and spot on.

[Owl]

37. Joe Lieberman is one enormous POS.

[placton]

40. and remember the old

"he may be bad on foreign policy, but he is with us on domestic" rationalization - always BS, even more so now

[PHIMG]

41. And remember all the big-whig Democrats who support him in his run?

Now you know why.

[placton]

43. and remember: Obama supported HIM over Lamont

the DEMOCRATIC nominee

[Timefortruth]

58. And Lieberman returns the favor

What's so hard to understand?

The president does not support the public option.

[Spazito]

107. That is grossly misleading...

Obama supported Lieberman during the state primaries when Lieberman WAS a Democrat and a sitting DEMOCRATIC Senator. When Lieberman LOST the Primary, Obama fully supported Lamont OVER Lieberman in the run up to the election.

Your post is a pathetic attempt to spread crap and that, imo, is appalling.

Edited to correct typo.

[No Elephants]

153. Democrats ALWAYS support incumbents in primaries. They all backed Turdman to the hilt in the

primary, then did not do much for Lamont in the general, even though Lamont was running as a Democrat and POS wasn't.

The first thing we need to do is take back the Democratic Party, end that policy and do away with the un-Democratic and undemocratic super delegates.

[RedCloud]

44. Sad loserman! Go kiss McCain's butt some more.

Wow! Who would think those morons had it right about him the first time?

[Merryweather]

46. This is what President Obama and Harry Reid

get for showing incredible forbearance towards Lieberman after he endorsed McSame? What should happen now is Reid threatens to strip him of his chairmanship to get him to fall in line, and once the reform bill gets past cloture, strip the jerk of his gavel anyway. He deserves to be treated with the same contempt he treats the Dems and the people.

And if he still chooses to filibuster, the Dems must force him and the rest of the Repugs to actually FILIBUSTER for once. Let them run down their stocks of Depends and die of exhaustion.

[Frank Cannon]

Ten minutes of listening to Lieberman's nails-on-a-chalkboard voice...

will have 99 members of the Senate voting for an end to the filibuster.

[tomm2thumbs]

64. exactly - I can't listen to his whiney gutteral baby blabber for 2 minutes

make the country hear him for hours on end - he will sow the seeds for his own demise

[robinlynne]

49. threaten? No do it! So everyone else knows what is out there if you are a republican

disguised in sheep's clothes.

[AlbertCat]

109. the Dems must force him and the rest of the Repugs to actually FILIBUSTER for once.

YES!

Make them stay up all night reading from the phone book! No more just throwing up your hands and calling it quits at the THREAT of a real filibuster. Make them work for their obstruction. There'll be cloture in no time.

[DireStrike]

111. You know, I almost hope Lieberman holds the line

Except I know that stupid people will continue to believe stupid things no matter how many times they're shown to be wrong.

Can't take lieberman from the left? Take him from the right. Support the republican in the next race if there is no strong progressive. Anything to get this fucker out.

[robinlynne]

48. ok. now the Senate Dems BETTER REACT! immediately. with one fast crushing blow.

out of every committee. do not pass go. It is the LEAST they can do. fuck the one vote. Put that man in his place. Show the rest of the Dems what being a Dem means.

[DrZeeLit]

50. Oh surprise, surprise. What a piece of.... What an ARMPIT!

I prefer to use armpit than a$$hole.... an armpit doesn't have a function.

Why is he doing this? Is he at all aware of the VOTERS or is it just his ego and the chance, once again, to be in any spotlight.... any.

He needs about a million phone calls.

[Merryweather]

52. No amount of phonecalls would impact this jackass

His Democratic constituents made it quite clear what they thought of him in 2006 and dumped his ass, so he ran as an Independent(Repug) and he STILL fucking won. He probably now thinks he can flip the bird at all Democrats anytime he likes and he'll get away with it, and the countless free passes Reid's handed to him have NOT helped.

[DrZeeLit]

122. I agree. What committee did he CRY and APOLOGIZE to get? TAKE IT AWAY NOW!!!

[shotten99]

51. Text of my call to Lieberman's office

Your threat to filibuster a public option is cowardly.
Please consider resigning from the Senate.

[Altoid_Cyclist]

53. He might as well change his name to Janus Lieberman.

This little two faced jerkwad has tried to straddle the fence so many times that I think he slipped and one of the pickets went into his anus and caused brain damage.

[elmerdem]

54. Don't call Lieberman, Call Reid,

but try not to use as much profanity as I did. Lieberman must loose his committee chair! Reid's office:202-224-3542!

This drives me insane! Fucking Democrats caved on everything fucking thing Bush did! How did John Roberts fucking work out for you?

REMOVE HIM FROM HIS COMMITTEE CHAIR NOW!

[2Design]

56. Al Gore was not wise in picking this person and could have won if he had picked anyone else n/t

[IndianaGreen]

57. To this day, we still don't know who talked Gore into putting this POS on the ticket

a ticket that "lost" the election in large part due to Lieberman being a part time campaigner.

[BlueMTexpat]

138. And also due to his "I agree with Dick Cheney" debate.

It was probably the only time that he ever told the truth. We should have paid more attention then.
His willful self-serving comments on TV while people were trying desperately to get the FL recount to go ahead certainly "outed" him then.
Gore more than made up for his travesty of a Veep decision in 2000 by endorsing Howard Dean's candidacy for the 2004 election. And boy, didn't Baby Joe wail and moan about that!
The only positive thing about the theft of the 2000 election is that LIEberman never made it to No 2. Of course, he was McCan't's top pick for Veep last year, until McCan't sold out completely to the RW religious wackos ... much good it did him. But I'm glad that he did.

[No Elephants]

152. What could we have done if we had paid more attention then? Voted for Dummya instead of Gore?

[BlueMTexpat]

170. I hope that I didn't give that impression.

Never in a million years.

[FVZA_Colonel]

65. As much as I admire the man, to this day I can't figure out what the hell he was thinking.

Though I have to say, due to my lack of knowledge about the candidates back then, I don't know who would have been a better choice.

[2Design]

110. kerry was one of the choices - dodd was another (not good)

[benh57]

126. Gore did win..

Don't forget that... It was only mis- (non) counting of the votes that put bush in office.

[2Design]

133. Your right but it should have been large enough margin to make it impossible for them to cheat n/t

[eagertolearn]

59. I don't hate that many people but I can't stand this guy! He doesn't get it.

It we don't do something right now about health care we will not have financial institutions. I have not heard one reason, from those against health Care reform, that makes any sense.

[SandWalker1984]

60. What if Dems decide to do private insurance mandates w/o a public option?

After hearing the latest from Republican Joe, the first thing that came to mind was what's the worst case scenario that could result?

My conclusion is that Congress, claiming they cannot get a public option passed in the Senate, decides to dumb down the reform bill to
MANDATES TO BUY PRIVATE INSURANCE WITHOUT ANY REGULATION OF RATES THEY CAN CHARGE and NO PUBLIC OPTION TO COMPETE.

If that is what is at the end of this tunnel, then I say it would be better to kill the bill altogether and try something else later than to cheat us out of real health care reform to give the corporations a huge group of new victims but no regulation of their actions that have brought us to this point.

Hopefully, the Progressive members of Congress will keep up the fight and perhaps the White House will finally throw some weight against people such as Republican Joe to benefit the bill for us, the American people who do not have the access to the same health care as Congress.

Meanwhile, I have signed the petition on democratic.com that states I will not give a dime of donations to any member of Congress that votes against a robust public option for ALL Americans.

[shimmergal]

63. If that's what we get

(private insurance mandates with NO public option), I predict the following will happen"

1) Big jump in underground economy {to avoid income showing up as enough to draw penalties)

2) Civil disobedience (Hard to tell how much; it's something few Americans seem to have the stomach for. but some could just refuse to buy and refuse to pay penalty)

3. "Shell" fake insurance cos. spring up so people can "prove" they're insured.

Do we really want to encourage these steps?

Well... maybe we do, as a response to a law _forcing_ us to support a private corporation's profits.
And that's not jut the uninsured Americans who'll be forced to buy it. We'll all be forced to contribute to the insurance cos., via taxes for those "subsidies".

[DireStrike]

112. If a bill has a mandate and no good public option, it is to be stopped at all costs.

Aside from being BAD for almost every actual citizen in the country, it would be political suicide.

[No Elephants]

161. +1

[alfredo]

62. Let em filibuster, and keep in session 24/7 even if it means working Thanksgiving

and Christmas. Then hit the airwaves every day to bash them over the head.

[mvd]

72. If we don't use reconciliation, agreed!

:hi:

[alfredo]

77. Let them bottle up the government and see what the people think of that.

[Vinca]

66. Throw Holy Joe out NOW. Enough is enough.

God - the people of Connecticut must rue the day they didn't vote for Ned Lamont.

[Doremus]

67. Damned fucker should have to live the rest of his life penniless and needing healthcare. nt

[GCP]

69. That fucking does it

He needs to be recalled by the people of Connecticut.
Scumbag asshole douchebag.

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[GCP]

84. Maybe you're on the wrong board

Try freerepublic.com

[Arugula Latte]

87. Hey, CoolFree

Go fuck yourself and go back to fucking Free Republic.

[mvd]

70. Tell this guy to join the Repuke caucus.

First he supported McCain, and now this. He used complete Repuke terminology when explaining his opposition. Use reconciliation and send him over.

[MBS]

71. He just gets worse and worse n/t

[mvd]

74. I am so mad right now!

:grr:

Strip him of any chairmanship and throw him out. He's not in the Senate as a Democrat anyway.

[StreetKnowledge]

75. Ah yes, the turncoat rears his head again.

Does it not bother anybody that we almost had this douchebag as our VP? :mad: Considering that New England sides with the Demos more often than not, its long past time we threw this asshole out of caucus.

[mvd]

76. Lieberman

A - Connecticut (the A stands for Aetna or choose a letter for any insurance company)

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[derby378]

83. Yes, Joe - go as far away as you can possibly get

The Democratic Party cannot afford to keep you around anymore.

[mdmc]

85. welcome to du

peace

[dschis]

88. 51 Votes

Folks it'll be reconciliation. You know damn well what the House will do. It's time to start cam paining. We got Brown and Strickland elected in Ohio. We're stuck with Boehner though. We're working on it.

We're all going to have to keep campaining. Obama's election was just the start to take the country back from the Wall Street snakes. The bottom line is that's where it all comes from.

This is the real deal. We are going to see who's been bought.

Time for you folks in Connecticut to do what we did in Ohio. Dig into Smokin Joe and see who's paying him.

[Politicub]

86. Fiscal hawk - is that a synonym for jury and executioner?

Because that is, in effect, who people are that threaten to filibuster when millions are denied health care.

The worst decision that Gore ever made was to tap Lieberman as his running mate. If this clown hadn't been given a pedestal, we would have all been saying, "Lieberman, who?"

Fuck him. I can't say it enough. FUCK LIEBERMAN!

Please, dems, use the reconciliation process and pass the public option with 51 votes.

[Quetzal]

89. I say strip him of his commitee chairmanship

on the Homeland Security Committee

[Dinger]

117. Why The FUCK Does he STILL Have That Chairmanship????????????

Who caved????

[No Elephants]

156. Try at least a majority of Senate Democrats and probably the WH, too. Talking about Reid

as though he keeps electing himself leader of Senate Democrats, then doesn't consult anyone may be fun, but it is not realty.

[rayofreason]

90. Joe Lieberman Says He'll Block Reid's Health Care Bill

Source: CBSnews

Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) said Tuesday that he would support a Republican filibuster of a health care bill that includes a public option.

Lieberman's comments confirm that Democrats in the Senate do not currently have enough votes to move forward the health care plan laid out on Monday by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.). Other moderates in the Democratic Caucus, Senators Ben Nelson of Nebraska and Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas, would not commit today to ending a filibuster.

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/10/27/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5425530.shtml

---

Did Reid know about this, or suspect it? Was "opt-out" an attempt to stop it or a ploy to make sure it happened?

[Capn Sunshine]

91. anyone else remember why they worked for Lamont?

THIS makes it pretty clear. :grr:

[underpants]

99. You certainly won't hear any mention of that on the "news" stations

the previous VP nominee loses in the primary in the not-so-radical state of Connecticut

THAT was the beginning of the uprising that the other side gets so much credit for.

[librechik]

92. ok, on another thread, Shuster said Lieberman won't block

but will vote no on the floor.

Which is it?

[The Hope Mobile]

93. Truthout also says he will fillibuster anything with a public option. nt

[laughingliberal]

95. He will not vote no to proceed to the floor for debate but will vote no to ...

letting bill proceed to the floor for an up or down vote.

[No Elephants]

160. Both. Please see Reply #27.

[AlinPA]

94. I saw Lieberman on CBS evening news but he did not say he was voting against cloture;

he did say public option "was not good for America" (or roughly that). Maybe his no vote will be after the cloture vote, i.e. against the bill itself.

CBS's Chip Reid called it a lethal blow and went on to gloat about Obama having a bad day and that his "political magic" is over.

Bastards.

[laughingliberal]

96. He said he would vote for cloture to proceed to debate but not to bring the bill to a vote nt

[AlinPA]

98. OK. That's his support for the republican filibuster. Slimy bastard. nt

[mvd]

97. It appears that he won't let it go to a vote - right now at least (come on, Reid!)

Not surprised about CBS. Their news division is run by a rabid right winger.

[No Elephants]

162. Whose news division is NOT run by a right winger?

[cactusfractal]

100. I don't think his demise would be a bad thing...

He obviously doesn't care if Americans die, so why should we care if he does? Go to hell, Joe. Go straight to hell. Tonight.

[McCamy Taylor]

101. Remember when Leiberman used to be a social liberal and a foreign policy hawk?

Man, he has fallen to a new low. Next thing you know, he will be supporting Constitutional amendments to ban abortion and gay marriage. I guess he is planning to run on a Republican ticket next time---if the polls show the GOP is ahead in Congressional races and he can keep his seniority. So, he is trying to keep his record conservative enough to make it through a treacherous GOP primary.

This is what happens when politics becomes about the politician and not about the people.

[Mz Pip]

102. I hope the people of CT

start calling his office. He needs to hear from his constituents that his behavior is unacceptable. It's too bad you can't recall a Senator.

[One_Life_To_Give]

176. Probably is as Insurance is one of the states Largest Employers

Folks, we should have expected difficulties with the CT delegation. It's not like CT being called the Insurance Captial of the country is anything new. Are we going to pretend that people working in the Insurance Industry are not afraid of the Public Option?

[msongs]

103. he knows obama will do anything for bipartisanship....so he wants his butt kissed nt

[No Elephants]

163. Obama did not cause Lieberman to kiss Bush or campaign for McCain.

[Uben]

104. So, he wants to lose the Homeland security chairmanship, huh?

Jerk it and reduce that bastard to nothing. If he does not support the PO, he should not keep his chair.

[BluDemocratGirl]

106. Mr. LIEberman, you're gonna reap from what you sew!

Go on and declare yourself as a RePUKEblican! Harry Reid might as well send that fool packing.

[quakerboy]

115. Nuclear Option

Fuck filibusters. They have become a joke. One side hasn't got the will to use them, and the other hasn't got the will not to.

[excess_3]

118. do we have 50 votes ? .. c'mon, somebody knows ..nt

[Dinger]

116. Fuck fido

Losersonofabitchfuckstickasswipepieceofshitbasturd

[Lasher]

121. I've lost track, whatever happened to reconciliation?

I guess Senate Democrats are too principled to go along with that. The process is reserved for Republicans with a slim majority and billions to pay back to their wealthy benefactors.

[leanderj]

123. Excommunicate the asshole and move him to a cubicle in the basement

next to the garbage chute

[harvey007]

124. LOSERMAN

This is the last straw, Traitor Joe.

[New Dawn]

125. Lieberman = Neocon/fascist war criminal

[w4rma]

128. Then he's finally going to lose all his power! Even the Senate Democrats aren't going to let him

get away with this. Not even the Blue Dogs, because it's them whom he is harming the election chances of.

That SOB, blackmailing, traitorous, sanctimonious, lying, falsely-religious, hypocrite.

[Lasher]

134. No, Senate Democrats won't do anything about this.

Lieberman will suffer no consequences whatsoever at their hands. Wait and see.

[T Wolf]

157. I am afraid that you are speaking the truth. The Dems have shown that only a handful have

any integrity or courage.

[JohnnyHardhat]

129. I effing hate this guy!

When I read this I almost had an aneurism. For once, can't this shit get on the right side of an issue? I wouldn't care if he was against some small potato legislation like naming a highway or rolling back earmarks but its always something I care deeply about that he smugly looks into the camera and says "Fuck You" to his own constituents. Well Joe, "Fuck You Too!!!" You had the chance of a very respectable legacy but you devolved into a self-absorbed freak who has no business being in politics. Now you will die a traitor and the history books will portray you as such. I feel for your family name.

[defendandprotect]

130. Move him out of Chairmanship --

[Vidar]

132. Fulfilling all our expectations of him: Lieberman was the overwhelming

"favorite" on a DU poll about this yesterday.

[47of74]

136. Public option would lead him to filibuster, key senator says

Source: CNN

Washington (CNN) -- Independent Sen. Joseph Lieberman said Tuesday he would join a Republican filibuster to block the final vote on any health care bill that has a government-run public health insurance option.

Lieberman's vote is crucial to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's hopes of passing a health care bill that includes the controversial public option. Reid announced Monday he would send to the full Senate a health care bill that has a public option but also allows states to opt out of that provision.

Lieberman said he would support a vote to launch debate on the health care bill but would oppose a motion to end debate if the public option remains in the legislation. Democrats would need 60 votes in the 100-member Senate to close debate on the bill, and the Democratic caucus has 60 members, including Lieberman.

"I can't see a way in which I can vote for cloture on any bill that contained a creation of a government-operated and run insurance company," the Connecticut senator said. "It's just asking for trouble."

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/10/27/health.care/index.html

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Liebermann needs to be voted out of office at the earliest opportunity. He should lose his committee assignments post haste. And the Democrats should tell him if he wants to act like a Republican than he's more than welcome to caucus with them, but not with the Democrats anymore.

[cureautismnow]

140. Open up the Congress doors to the filibuster.

Let the schmuck and his GOP buddies talk to death a bill that could prevent American deaths in front of a gallery of susceptible non-insured Americans. That should be quite a show. :argh:

[54anickel]

141. "I don't think we need it now"... So when Joe? How many more uninsured do we need? How many

more healthcare cost related bankruptcies? How many needless deaths because of lack of healthcare?

If now is not a good time, then when? When it can get pawned of as your idea, or a Republican idea? When it's written with another major give-away to corporate interests buried deep in the bowels of some fear wretching bill that must be passed immediately for the good of the country?

Joe's such an opportunist, and proud of it. It's becoming quite clear the really good "double-crossers" get handsomely rewarded as politicans. And we wonder why we don't have a voice.

[era veteran]

142. Complete bastard with a lot of asshole thrown in

If I lived in Conn. I would be ashamed oh I live in KY and I am deeply ashamed, mostly at Mitchie, Bunning is just plain stupid.

[Ms. Toad]

143. What I find striking is that he obviously hasn't read the bills

Or is just plain lying.

The public option is NOT an entitlement program. It is a self-funded insurance option that is run by the government. Any individual or family who chooses it will be paying for it out of pocket with the exception of any subsidy available to them which they can use to purchase whichever insurance plan they choose - either public or private. It is not the private option that will become an entitlement program, it is the subsidy - and I haven't heard anyone oppose subsidies entirely on that basis.

[WatchWhatISay]

144. I don't think he will actually do it

I think he is just holding out for a higher price

[Babyserendip]

145. It's quite clear this man is the ENEMY of the American People....

.....

[vssmith]

146. I welcome a filibuster

As we all know Joe Lieberman is a jerk!
Make the Republicans and HIM come out of the shadows and filibuster--as someone said "sunlight is the best disinfectant."

[Odin2005]

147. Why does this slimebucket still have committee chairmanships?

[irislake]

148. Wow!

What a creep!

[Ghost of Tom Joad]

149. I'm curious

what type of health care do they have in Israel? I know he is a great supporter and was wondering if they have national health care.

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[Ghost of Tom Joad]

151. Thanks for the info

Maybe we should send him this info and ask him why this works in Israel and not here.

[12AngryBorneoWildmen]

154. No Mo Joe

Shelve Joe in Oh Twelve

[queerunity]

158. liberjerk

what an @ss I hope Connecticut wakes up and votes that war-mongerer anti-health care guy out

[No Elephants]

164. Google "Connecticut insurance industry" and you will understand Lieberman's position.

You won't like his position any better, though.

See also http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/64671-lieberman-health-bill-concern-not-based-on-states-insurers Wj


You won't believe, Joe, but, then again, when do you believe Joe?

[kaehele]

166. Question?

How long is the Democrat party going to let JL get away with being a Repub but holding Dem. chairmanships?

I cannot believe how the Democrats continue to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Geez, we finally got an opportunity with a solid President, and here we are placating every egocentric, grasping toadmember of the party...or suppose member.

arghhhh

[cosmicone]

168. Let's strip him of his committee chair n/t

[flaminbats]

169. Why have primaries with losers like Lieberman?

Lieberman lost in the 2004 primaries against John Kerry, he lost against Ned Lamont in the 2006 primary 48% to 52%. So why was this sore loser allowed to run under his own selfish ticket in November?

I think Lieberman is planning to run for President in 2012! Will he run against Obama under the conservative party ticket or will he run in the Republican primaries?

I think Lieberman will do both..he'll run as a Republican in New Hampshire and Iowa, if he doesn't run for re-election, and if he isn't on the Republican ticket in 2012 he'll run as a conservative third-party backstabber.

:puke:I think Lieberman just loves backstabbing folks..regardless of their political party!

[JerseygirlCT]

174. The only thing that made me think he wouldn't

is that voting for cloture and then against the bill is such a classically Lieberman move. Then he gets to say he voted for it and against it.

[One_Life_To_Give]

175. His Constituants aren't known as the Insurance Capital for nothing

We also should remember that the Connecticut delegation represents a disproportionate number of people working in the Insurance Industry. The Hartford, Cigna etc. are all headquartered in Hartford, CT.

[mstinamotorcity]

177. You know what to do

Go to the dollar store get some envelopes, go to the post office and buy a book of stamps and write his ass. The people in his district should ban together and send him a letter from everyone of their friends and family in the district who support healthcare reform. Letters delivered by the post office can't be deleted with the click of a button. They must be delivered. How would you like your office crammed with about two or three hundred thousand letters from your state all saying basically the same thing public option with true healthcare reform or my family and i are voting for someone who wants healthcare reform. and you know that punk has been a traitor for a while now so i know all of you are not surprised. Hey Harry Reid do you think you could revoke that chairmanship he so boldly holds.